MAJBobby Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 13 hours ago, The Jokeman said: $12 million against the cap next year. Way too rich for me. Actually post trade it would be 10.5 None Guaranteed. Easy Restructure to move those bases lower by converting to bonus and adding a voidable year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 @MAJBobby gimme somethin man. I’m in a bad place! *scratches uncomfortably* just something little. Come on man! *spasms slightly* 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 @whatdrought Latest text. Out on Atkins. 2 teams called about Knox, Bills not shopping him but teams have called. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) I like Knox, he has been inconsistent and needs to get healthy but he is dynamic player. It usually takes TEs until their second contract to meet their potential. Would’ve liked Atkins... Edited November 3, 2020 by ChanticleerBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Interest in Knox is interesting... (pun slightly intended) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Trading Knox for picks? does that help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Trading Knox for picks? does that help? I want to make it clear the Birdy said Bills are not shopping him, but 2 teams have called about his availability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafi$ Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I’m not expecting many trades today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, BillsMafi$ said: I’m not expecting many trades today FWIW I also do not expect anything. I’m not suggesting they’re not trying; merely reading tea leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Isn’t Knox hurt? How can he be traded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 If the Bills do anything then I hope they can improve the lines especially on D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Isn’t Knox hurt? How can he be traded? He is on the COVID list, and unlike Madden you can trade any contact (See Kiko on PUP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Any trades around league? Hoping Bills get some Dline help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Takes me back to how excited we were about Kelvin Benjamin.... 🤢 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: Takes me back to how excited we were about Kelvin Benjamin.... 🤢 Reading this just made me sad....ohh Kelvin Benjamin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Do something Darcy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said: Reading this just made me sad....ohh Kelvin Benjamin Just go and see him and have him valet your car. You can relive the moment together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyBeets Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 We're running out of time to improve our football team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Takes me back to how excited we were about Kelvin Benjamin.... 🤢 I was very happy. Didnt realize how shot his knees were, and how little ambition he had to come back from said bad knees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 We just do not have the cap room to get anyone substantial, unless like OP has said, a team takes a player like Murphy off our books. Would be surprised if anything happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I find really interesting that we have problems to make any move due to cap space. I checked sportrac and saw contracts we have but it is still weird that we don't have any cap space even though we don't have single player over 15m cap hit. It makes me wonder what we are going to do when Tre's, Dawkins' and Allen's contracts start counting. On a positive note, Edmunds is trying to save us from cap hell this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I get the feeling a trade isn't going to happen. Would love a DT or LB at this point but I just get the feeling they are going to stick with what they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: @whatdrought Latest text. Out on Atkins. 2 teams called about Knox, Bills not shopping him but teams have called. Who the hell would want Knox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gugny said: Who the hell would want Knox? Teams that see talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Gugny said: Who the hell would want Knox? He would not give me the names of the teams that called, either doesn't know or doesn't want to pass that along. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Gugny said: Who the hell would want Knox? Well there are teams that do project talent. The kid only played 18 games in college over 3 years and had to transition from QB to TE. 39 catches in 19 games. And so far in NFL in 14 starts he has 34 catches for 481 yds at 14.1 YPC, 17 first downs and 2 TDs. Not bad. He is quick, can block and can get down the seam. The latter is a cover 2 shell beater btw which any good passing team needs. I'd keep him Edited November 3, 2020 by freddyjj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 well sure is looking like we are not doing anything... very disappointed if that is the case. We are not winning a playoff game with this defense as it sits now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I'm guessing Beane has been trying fairly hard, but other teams are asking too much. Glaring need at DT, but only a certain profile can fit there, because the Bills can't cut Star in the off season. That player has to be cheap or easy to cut in the off season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, freddyjj said: Well there are teams that do project talent. The kid only played 18 games in college over 3 years and had to transition from QB to TE. 39 catches in 19 games. And so far in NFL in 14 starts he has 34 catches for 481 yds at 14.1 YPC, 17 first downs and 2 TDs. Not bad. He is quick, can block and can get down the seam. The latter is a cover 2 shell beater btw which any good passing team needs. I'd keep him This is a great summary. Him being out hasn't helped out ability to beat the zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 well engram and the giants d tackle havent been traded so lets hope a last minute meeting of the minds occurs and they get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, gordong said: well sure is looking like we are not doing anything... very disappointed if that is the case. We are not winning a playoff game with this defense as it sits now. Unless he has 1 trade in mind that he's working on. A bigger deal than expected. Thats my hunch. Also keep in mind he did the KB deal in last 5 min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Here’s a random thought I have had about this... The NFL has made voting a big deal (which is great!) and they’ve given days off to league people and encourages teams to do likewise... why keep the deadline today? I know it’s always Tuesday, but why not last week? Or next week? Seems problematic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsh1031 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Dalvin Tomlinson still seems like the Bills ideal target - 1-tech run stuffing DT, low salary, FA after the season. Tricky to get done without a 4th round pick this year, but I would offer a 2022 4th rd pick + conditional 5th round pick this year (if he re-signs). Problem is the Giants, if they are even open to dealing him, could be looking for at least a 3rd this year, and that would be too rich of a price to pay just for 7-8 games IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Random one. Do we take a page from bellicheats book and trade Hyde? Hes clearly lost a little but is still perceived as a top safety. Patriots have been great at shedding these types of players over the years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, jshalt31 said: Dalvin Tomlinson still seems like the Bills ideal target - 1-tech run stuffing DT, low salary, FA after the season. Tricky to get done without a 4th round pick this year, but I would offer a 2022 4th rd pick + conditional 5th round pick this year (if he re-signs). Problem is the Giants, if they are even open to dealing him, could be looking for at least a 3rd this year, and that would be too rich of a price to pay just for 7-8 games IMO. How about a 3rd, next years 5th, and Kyle Murphy for Tomlinson/Engram 2 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Random one. Do we take a page from bellicheats book and trade Hyde? Hes clearly lost a little but is still perceived as a top safety. Patriots have been great at shedding these types of players over the years. They were but I would hope this would be an off-season move and not one when we are trying to get better for a SB run. IMO that makes us worse and more thin. Edited November 3, 2020 by ChanticleerBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Here you go Beane: Murphy, Phillips and Knox plus a fifth to NYG for Tomlinson, Zeitler and Engram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Random one. Do we take a page from bellicheats book and trade Hyde? Hes clearly lost a little but is still perceived as a top safety. Patriots have been great at shedding these types of players over the years. Considering Hyde missed our last game trading damaged goods isn't going to to look good. I'm not sure why we'd trade him as think Marlowe was sub par replacing him. He also isn't breaking the bank in terms of cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 23 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Teams that see talent. 18 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: He would not give me the names of the teams that called, either doesn't know or doesn't want to pass that along. 13 minutes ago, freddyjj said: Well there are teams that do project talent. The kid only played 18 games in college over 3 years and had to transition from QB to TE. 39 catches in 19 games. And so far in NFL in 14 starts he has 34 catches for 481 yds at 14.1 YPC, 17 first downs and 2 TDs. Not bad. He is quick, can block and can get down the seam. The latter is a cover 2 shell beater btw which any good passing team needs. I'd keep him I loved the Knox pick and I have really wanted him to turn a corner. He definitely has talent - especially making difficult catches and he's shown the ability to be a wrecking machine after the catch. But his dropsies are a problem and I am concerned that he has not shown any improvement yet. I would love to keep him and love for him to get better. I'm just skeptical at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: Considering Hyde missed our last game trading damaged goods isn't going to to look good. I'm not sure why we'd trade him as think Marlowe was sub par replacing him. He also isn't breaking the bank in terms of cap. Agree. Just a thought as he has struggled this year. If you potentially replace him on off-season getting something for him now makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 On 11/2/2020 at 11:48 AM, Mark Vader said: I see. I'm not interested in Engram. Going for another Tight End is far less important than going for defense. Pursuing Atkins & Mercilus makes a lot more sense. Won't be easy, but they have to try. I think the opposite. You are getting zero from the Tight End position right now. We might as well be the Patriots and dress one TE on gameday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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