YoloinOhio Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Good. Thought he played fairly decently the other night. He's not the answer for the Dline, but he's got good energy and looks motivated... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Did they release Spain to make room for Zimmer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 For Leslie to say he did good in the run game is a straight up lie. He got blown off the line, constantly. 11 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 So... 9 JAG Defensive Linemen and Ed Oliver. I mean.. there has to be another shoe dropping, no? We’re not seriously going to carry 10 DL on the 53.... are we? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 https://youtu.be/-RlbYMVlq3k 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 i knew it before, but it kinda shocks me we have more cap/salary allotted to our DL than any other team. having 9 (and now 10) guys in the rotation will do it though. iv'e been shting allover them, and for good reason, but there has to be some non talent reason for the drop off from last year. surely there is a coaching thing that can correct it. i certainly hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Really, Frazier ?? Edited October 21, 2020 by Fan in Chicago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 This is hilarious that you swap Spain for Zimmer ................ I am really critical of this move Zimmer was a joke in this game he made one TFL and we make the offensive line even weaker by dumping Spain so we can bring this guy up to the active roster....SICK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: For Leslie to say he did good in the run game is a straight up lie. He got blown off the line, constantly. To be fair, what he said was that he "helped us some in the run game". He didn't really elaborate on how he played overall. It's just coach speak. He doesn't want to critique the guy to the media. Edited October 21, 2020 by vincec 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 5 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I don't understand the practice squad rules these days, but why are they announcing this today? If he played in the game on Monday, wasn't he added to the 53 at that time? As far as how he played, I don't think it can be said that any of the Bills defensive linemen played well on Monday, but Zimmer did make a couple of hustle plays and seemed to give a lot of effort, so perhaps that elevates him above the others and earned him a spot on the roster. He certainly didn't appear to be any worse than anyone else on the D-line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 He needs to change that offensive lineman number he’s rocking. Looks like something from the extra jersey bin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: For Leslie to say he did good in the run game is a straight up lie. He got blown off the line, constantly. I agree, I think Frazier is going through a mid life crisis. If the Jets go off offensively I will definitely be onboard the Fire Frazier train. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Oh. My. Goodness. Really wish I didn’t watch that.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, ILBillsfan said: This is hilarious that you swap Spain for Zimmer ................ I am really critical of this move Zimmer was a joke in this game he made one TFL and we make the offensive line even weaker by dumping Spain so we can bring this guy up to the active roster....SICK Do you really think the reason Spain was released was so we can promote Zimmer to the active roster? You don't think maybe there were some underlying issues involved with Spain? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: "best" part is how he reappears at the very end like he just went under a wave - the entire LOS moved past him by 6 yards and just pops up at the end like "where everybody go?" Edited October 21, 2020 by ctk232 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, msw2112 said: I don't understand the practice squad rules these days, but why are they announcing this today? If he played in the game on Monday, wasn't he added to the 53 at that time? As far as how he played, I don't think it can be said that any of the Bills defensive linemen played well on Monday, but Zimmer did make a couple of hustle plays and seemed to give a lot of effort, so perhaps that elevates him above the others and earned him a spot on the roster. He certainly didn't appear to be any worse than anyone else on the D-line. As I understand it, when players are elevated from the practice squad, they don't automatically get put on the 53. Because of covid, you are allowed two "free" PS calls ups each week to suit up for that game. The same player, though, can only be elevated twice...so you either keep them on the PS after the second call up or you can elevate them. I believe this was Zimmer's second call up, so they either had to elevate him to the permanent 53, or not be allowed to use him the rest of the season. If I am in error in my understanding of the rules, please someone correct me so I don't mislead others. Edited October 21, 2020 by jkeerie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Anyone that makes a tackle in practice should start 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Thanks for the explanation - that makes sense. I figured there was something like that, but didn't know what. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Do you really think the reason Spain was released was so we can promote Zimmer to the active roster? You don't think maybe there were some underlying issues involved with Spain? Seems clear as can be to me I could see why Spain was cryptic with his tweet towards OBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiezzz Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) I don't know the details of signing off practice squad, but if I had to guess, we probably signed him to a 1 year deal, and he'll leave next free agency period. Edited October 21, 2020 by jamiezzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 32 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: For Leslie to say he did good in the run game is a straight up lie. He got blown off the line, constantly. Again these guys are horrible at judging talent. We're doomed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, SCBills said: Oh. My. Goodness. Really wish I didn’t watch that.... Entire Dline pushed back like kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 36 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: For Leslie to say he did good in the run game is a straight up lie. He got blown off the line, constantly. well you know you look at the media and they where writing like Zimmer was Aaron Donald so Frazier just got on the band wagon heck even Sean?Beane said hey lets activate him tot he full time roster and dump Spain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Real McNasty said: Entire Dline pushed back like kids. So...relatively speaking...Zimmer was good. 😟 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 minute ago, jkeerie said: So...relatively speaking...Zimmer was good. 😟 ' ' Just so bad to see though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Real McNasty said: Entire Dline pushed back like kids. Doesn’t help the others when your one tech practice player is playing futile 9 minutes ago, Real McNasty said: ' ' Just so bad to see though. Lol six bills vs five offensive lineman I’d choose to let the weak link thru too Edited October 21, 2020 by ILBillsfan Sorry double posted the image :P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Odd considering I think we're all expecting Jon Feliciano to be activated to the 53. Assumed they'd just use Spain's roster spot for him. Now do they release Boettger or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 He made a few plays but he struggled against the run for the most part from what I could tell. So we'll see how this plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 56 minutes ago, ctk232 said: "best" part is how he reappears at the very end like he just went under a wave - the entire LOS moved past him by 6 yards and just pops up at the end like "where everybody go?" Even if Dareus is out of shape I have never seen him get blown up like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Do The Reich Thing said: For Leslie to say he did good in the run game is a straight up lie. He got blown off the line, constantly. he got blown off less than the others?? 48 minutes ago, Real McNasty said: ' ' Just so bad to see though. this picture should be in every D coach and players office and locker this week 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said: He was playing against 2 and a half linemen there. Lots of other plays can point to this point made better no? Edited October 21, 2020 by fansince88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) Never thought a 300 lb. man could be moved so easily when he's supposedly resisting against it. Edited October 21, 2020 by billsbackto81 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Do The Reich Thing said: For Leslie to say he did good in the run game is a straight up lie. He got blown off the line, constantly. Look at the exact words: "helped us some in the run game" Some is a very convenient word. 1 hour ago, jkeerie said: As I understand it, when players are elevated from the practice squad, they don't automatically get put on the 53. Because of covid, you are allowed two "free" PS calls ups each week to suit up for that game. The same player, though, can only be elevated twice...so you either keep them on the PS after the second call up or you can elevate them. I believe this was Zimmer's second call up, so they either had to elevate him to the permanent 53, or not be allowed to use him the rest of the season. If I am in error in my understanding of the rules, please someone correct me so I don't mislead others. I don't think the deal is you can't use him the rest of the season, he's just subject to the normal practice squad rules after the first 2 call ups. Waivers are the difference. First two call-ups: can put back on practice squad without exposing the player to waivers After that: can still call him up to the 53, but then you either have to keep him on the 53, or expose him to waivers before he can re-sign to the practice squad And as you said, if I'm misunderstanding, I'd appreciate being set straight. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Do The Reich Thing said: For Leslie to say he did good in the run game is a straight up lie. He got blown off the line, constantly. I mean, I post these quotes because they exist but we all know coach speak when we see it 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I agree, I think Frazier is going through a mid life crisis. If the Jets go off offensively I will definitely be onboard the Fire Frazier train. Frazier’s always been quite basic and conservative imo. He made his defense work in Minnesota with good pass rushers and solid Dline play. I think Frazier’s bend don’t break defense needs guys capable of making plays to function properly. We have no playmakers, and this defense isn’t going to function well without them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) When you let 2 guys in Phillips and Lawson leave who were arguably our strongest guys off the snap, you are going to have problems. I don’t care what the advanced stats said about Phillips in the run game, that guy pushed people into the pockets and won battles. Lawson was amazing at never getting pushed back and was one of the best run/pass DE’s in the NFL. Edited October 21, 2020 by Call_Of_Ktulu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 A defining moment in Bills history. Try to remember where you were when announced 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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