WotAGuy Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) NFL has come a long way. Have its fans come as far? https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2020/10/09/nfl-launching-initiatives-throughout-lgbtq-history-month/42739171/ Edited October 10, 2020 by WotAGuy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Would rather have contagious illness month but Titans already took that. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 That’s a big so what. Who cares. This group is about diversity, and I don’t really care, but then I don’t care about anyone’s personal stuff as long they are not doing something to hurt themselves or someone else. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) Yeah, don't care. NFL, just like the breast cancer awareness pink stuff did that for one reason, more women viewers/$$$. Same thing here. Doubt this will be successful in getting those folks to care either. Hard to believe though that they couldn't get Zeke and Odell to be in this ad. I always thought they'd make such a cute couple. Edited October 10, 2020 by Bferra13 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just wondering if it will trigger as much outrage as kneeling did. Probably not, because it’s not as easy as claiming patriotism. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Just wondering if it will trigger as much outrage as kneeling did. Probably not, because it’s not as easy as claiming patriotism. Or maybe... because people won’t be outraged. I know I know, crazy! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I mean it’s whatever. I mostly mind my own business so if this news brightens peoples day more power to em. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Just wondering if it will trigger as much outrage as kneeling did. Probably not, because it’s not as easy as claiming patriotism. You are the only one talking about being triggered 4 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterian Bills Fan Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 This is incredibly hollow considering how little the league has done to actual encourage players to be openly gay and support them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, WotAGuy said: NFL has come a long way. Have its fans come as far? https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2020/10/09/nfl-launching-initiatives-throughout-lgbtq-history-month/42739171/ I just wish it didn’t even have to be “a thing” at all. You do your thing, I’ll do mine. Why should I care about your leanings? Don’t hurt anyone else and be happy. That’s what I hope for all of us. 6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rochesterian Bills Fan said: This is incredibly hollow considering how little the league has done to actual encourage players to be openly gay and support them. Isn’t this a step in the right direction though? They have to start somewhere. At least it brought to my awareness that there was a LGBTQ History Month. I had no idea this has been a thing since 1994. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Sounds like Rainbow Capitalism to me. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Isn’t this a step in the right direction though? They have to start somewhere. At least it brought to my awareness that there was a LGBTQ History Month. I had no idea this has been a thing since 1994. Had a job where we needed to know what all of the companies initiatives were and were given a quiz I was supposed to pass. I constantly gave wrong answer on it and got comment from upper management. I asked if they were charging my time on it to customer and they said no (it was illegal). I asked if I could be let go for something I was supposed to do on my own time not directly related to job function and answer was no. I told him I will give a new wrong answer next month. They finally dropped it. Basically ignore it if it does not apply to you and does not interest you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I won't be paying much attention. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, WotAGuy said: Just wondering if it will trigger as much outrage as kneeling did. Probably not, because it’s not as easy as claiming patriotism. Starting a thread and then trying to bring politics into it? Geez dude. Can we just talk football instead? 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: Starting a thread and then trying to bring politics into it? Geez dude. Can we just talk football instead? Where is there anything about politics? Patriotism is not politics. There are plenty of threads talking Xs and Os. Knock yourself out. Edited October 10, 2020 by WotAGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterian Bills Fan Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Isn’t this a step in the right direction though? They have to start somewhere. At least it brought to my awareness that there was a LGBTQ History Month. I had no idea this has been a thing since 1994. It is a safe step and isn't relevant to any gay players in the league. I'm not political about sports but I loathe it when people or organizations wear causes on their sleeve but don't really want to take any actions that might inconvenience them or expose their interests to risk. Edited October 10, 2020 by Rochesterian Bills Fan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Rochesterian Bills Fan said: It is a safe step and isn't relevant to any gay players in the league. I'm not political about sports but I loathe it when people or organizations wear causes on their sleeve but don't really want to take any actions that might inconvenience them or expose their interests to risk. I don’t see how this “isn’t relevant to any gay players in the league”. Isn’t that for those players to decide? I have no idea what it’s like to be a gay man playing in the NFL, but growing up on football in the late 60s, I heard gay players existed but they had to hide it from their peers. Society was a little farther ahead, but not much. I would think gay NFL players would appreciate this, even if it’s a token effort as a start. I think the NFL is exposing itself to risk by promoting this because there are fans who “quit” the NFL over the kneeling issue. I would not be surprised if there are fans who will “quit” the NFL over this as well. Edited October 10, 2020 by WotAGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronthebaron Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 That’s really cool. Thanks for sharing, I hadn’t heard about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I mean, from a purely marketing stand point it makes sense that an organization with such a great track record or having openly gay players would seek to be on the cutting edge.... For instance? Remember that time that player got drafted entirely for his sexual orientation and then was made a huge focus of the offseason and training camp even though he sucked at football? Man, that equality really warmed my heart. 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterian Bills Fan Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I mean, from a purely marketing stand point it makes sense that an organization with such a great track record or having openly gay players would seek to be on the cutting edge.... For instance? Remember that time that player got drafted entirely for his sexual orientation and then was made a huge focus of the offseason and training camp even though he sucked at football? Man, that equality really warmed my heart. He really didn't deserve all that pressure heaped upon him either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rochesterian Bills Fan said: He really didn't deserve all that pressure heaped upon him either. Nope, but that's the TMZ, Twitter, Instagram culture we live in unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinES3 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 39 minutes ago, billsfanmiamioh said: what about the less intensive purposes? Doesn't make him wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I don’t care. Nor would I care if Josh Allen wanted us to call him Joyce. No bid deal. Doesn’t concern me. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I played with gay people Great football players. We are all human 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 24 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: I don’t care. Nor would I care if Josh Allen wanted us to call him Joyce. No bid deal. Doesn’t concern me. He looks more like a Cindy to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I mean sure why not, but also why? I'm sure there's at least one closeted gay player in the NFL, are they trying to bait him into coming out or something for marketing purposes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 This should distract from the Tennessee Covid 19s... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, WotAGuy said: Isn’t this a step in the right direction though? They have to start somewhere. At least it brought to my awareness that there was a LGBTQ History Month. I had no idea this has been a thing since 1994. This stuff gets old .. why does this need attention more than one of these ... https://www.healthline.com/health/directory-awareness-months why not World Preclampsia Day; ADHD awareness (I have it .. and many youth and adults really struggle with acceptance, etc.); Helen Keller Deaf-Blind Awareness Week. There are literally thousands of these. So why this one .. because political pressure. They can do whatever .. I am still watching .. but you are kidding yourself if you do not think it is political Edited October 10, 2020 by CorkScrewHill 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfanatixs Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 When this political streaming pile comes during a game, I turn it off immediately. When its showering me with loads, I run. Never owned a slave, my family fought to free slaves and its insulting as f**k that its put into my face in any forum of any kind. BLM, REALLY? NO EFFIN S**t! Rant over 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Lmao, even money says greater than 50% of NFL players would have voted for prop 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 LGBT folks have money too. And they spend some of it on entertainment. And their numbers are not insignificant. And they have many supportive allies. And they are not the biggest NFL fans around. Seems like it is a nice thing to do and on top of that, it would be corporate negligence to ignore so many potential new fans. Marketing-wise, the LGBT community has always been hyper-loyal to brands they perceive as being on their side. As for the grumpy grumpermeisters that are inevitably going to grump, grump, grump, their kvetching is added amusement for us all. Its a win-win situation. And if a bunch of them leave football over it, then its a win-win-win situation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 9 hours ago, WotAGuy said: Just wondering if it will trigger as much outrage as kneeling did. Probably not, because it’s not as easy as claiming patriotism. Are you being antgonistic for any specific reason, or just having fun? Funny, but I remember reading something about keeping politics off this board. I suppose I need clarification. It's probably me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, Mickey said: LGBT folks have money too. And they spend some of it on entertainment. And their numbers are not insignificant. And they have many supportive allies. And they are not the biggest NFL fans around. Seems like it is a nice thing to do and on top of that, it would be corporate negligence to ignore so many potential new fans. Marketing-wise, the LGBT community has always been hyper-loyal to brands they perceive as being on their side. As for the grumpy grumpermeisters that are inevitably going to grump, grump, grump, their kvetching is added amusement for us all. Its a win-win situation. And if a bunch of them leave football over it, then its a win-win-win situation. Well said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 8 hours ago, Limeaid said: Some go to wall to read about football and other things not people complaining about "liberal agenda". Continue injecting your political view and politics. I don't believe that he started the thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 hours ago, LeviF91 said: Lmao, even money says greater than 50% of NFL players would have voted for prop 8. I mean we all know the demographics of the NFL are largely Christian, jock, white and black folks. And we all know historically, those folks LOVE the gays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I always go to football games looking to have a gay old time 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Billsfanatixs said: When this political streaming pile comes during a game, I turn it off immediately. When its showering me with loads, I run. Never owned a slave, my family fought to free slaves and its insulting as f**k that its put into my face in any forum of any kind. BLM, REALLY? NO EFFIN S**t! Rant over Phrasing! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 9 hours ago, Rochesterian Bills Fan said: This is incredibly hollow considering how little the league has done to actual encourage players to be openly gay and support them. This. NFL uses these causes as money grabs. That said, it’s better than no support (still waiting on domestic violence awareness month). Maybe this is step one in league wide support of openly LGBTQ players, coaches, and personnel . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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