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Hebert19 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, JESSEFEFFER said: They have used Josh Allen runs to close games but weren't going to do that today after the shoulder injury. I think we are saving that for when needed. All the motion and not running will lead to D collapsing and he will burn them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said: They have used Josh Allen runs to close games but weren't going to do that today after the shoulder injury. I'm loving the lack of designed runs. Let him win with his arm. We all know how dangerous he is with his legs, I want him to reserve using his legs for plays where protection breaks down AND he can't find an open WR. Frankly though with Diggs and even Davis now in our WR lineup, he seems to have no problem finding open guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said: They have used Josh Allen runs to close games but weren't going to do that today after the shoulder injury. I don't think they've called a single Allen run since the Jets game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 https://theathletic.com/2115017/2020/10/04/thats-our-general-josh-allen-shows-another-side-of-himself-in-win-over-vegas?source=user-shared-article ‘That’s our general’: Josh Allen shows another side of himself in win over Vegas For a moment, it looked like the Bills were about to find out just how valuable Josh Allen is. With just under five minutes to play in the first half of the Bills’ 30-23 win over the Raiders, the Bills were facing third-and-10. Allen did what he always does: He tried to make a play. Nobody was open, so Allen scrambled to his left. Inexplicably, Allen managed a backhand flip to Stefon Diggs with Raiders defenders beginning to drive him to the ground. Diggs hauled it in but gained only 8 of the 10 yards needed. Meanwhile, Raiders defensive end Arden Key helped collapse Allen to the field. As the Bills got ready to attempt a field goal, Allen grimaced and grabbed his left arm. Almost immediately, he made his way to the locker room. ... “I had no idea,” Hyde said. “Josh is tough. He was still walking around carrying around like normal Josh.” Allen was in pain. But the injury was to his non-throwing shoulder, so he never missed a play. After the game, Allen downplayed the injury and whatever toughness he showed gutting through it. He said he’d get some treatment and that it wouldn’t be a big deal. His teammates noticed. And they didn’t just notice that he played through the injury but that he did so without much of a complaint. ... He leads the NFL with 21 completions and 585 yards on passes that travel 15 yards or more in the air. During a season when offenses are scoring at a record pace, Allen is second to Dak Prescott with 21 completions of 20 or more yards. The Bills tried to stress Allen during their shortened training camp by throwing a variety of defensive coverages at him. ... For the first time in his career, Allen didn’t gain positive yardage on the ground. He ran only three times and lost 1 yard. One of those runs was a 1-yard rush for a touchdown after he hurt his shoulder. Otherwise, he stayed in the pocket and completed passes to nine receivers. Five had multiple receptions. Allen said before the season he wanted to put more emphasis on distributing the ball to his playmakers. When he ran 14 times for 57 yards and a touchdown in the season opener, that comment seemed like lip service. In the three games since, however, Allen has combined to run the ball 11 times for 26 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 He's playing with a lot of confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: NoT aCcUrAtE I know it's such a small thing, but Allen did a beautiful job selling the fake on that play. I had no idea he had the ball until Singletary started pass blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Technically he has 0 interceptions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, gobills404 said: I know it's such a small thing, but Allen did a beautiful job selling the fake on that play. I had no idea he had the ball until Singletary started pass blocking. Just such an incredible pass. Not that the "what if" game matters much, but if he were credited with a TD on that play and weren't given that stupid INT, his Passer Rating would be 127.8... just a note... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 8 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: That fall on his head was so close to the one that Michael Irvin had that ended his career. Quite scary in how he landed on the turf. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 https://theathletic.com/2115216/2020/10/05/seven-observations-from-bills-win-josh-allen-dominates-defense-shows-up?source=user-shared-article Allen is turning into the QB the Bills hoped for Allen put together an incredible passing performance for the fourth straight game, coming up again with clutch throws. We’re witnessing a young quarterback turning into a budding superstar. Every week, Allen keeps giving more reasons as to why he’s far beyond the player we saw last season. For starters, there’s the accuracy. Allen has yet to complete less than 68 percent of his passes in a game, and for the season, he’s completing 71 percent of passes. Allen was also on against the Raiders, completing 24 of 34 attempts, but five incompletions were due to either a drop or a throwaway to avoid a negative play. His adjusted completion percentage against Las Vegas was an incredible 82.8 percent. And it isn’t just how often he found his target, it’s how he was completing his passes. It’s the depth of target, the confidence to hit small windows and how he manipulates the defense with his progressions to find receivers down the field. Allen’s should-have-been touchdown throw to John Brown that officials ruled down at the 1 was an all-world completion. Only a handful of players have the confidence, zip and accuracy potential to make that play, and Allen pulled it off. Even more, we’ve witnessed Allen do away with his panicking against unique blitzes. No longer does he wilt under pressure. In the past, Allen either turned his back and took the sack or he bailed out of the pocket without a plan. With the help of offensive coordinator Brian Daboll and quarterbacks coach Ken Dorsey, Allen almost always has a backup plan. If a defense sends pressure he didn’t expect, he knows where his quick read is most of the time. Allen has improved in every area of his game. Does he still have some regrettable plays? Absolutely. He took a sack to knock the Bills out of field goal range, and he recklessly flipped forward a pass that resulted in an injury. But those plays are so few and far between these days that they aren’t huge issues any longer. Allen has taken his game to another level and is playing the best football by a Bills quarterback since Jim Kelly. The weight of that sentence is not lost on me, and it’s not something you write without plenty of evidence. It’s immense praise, but Allen has deserved it this season. His performance helped put away two potential playoff teams in consecutive weeks. Allen is on the shortlist in the early season MVP discussion and appears to be headed to superstar status. We’ve been tracking his immense growth for two seasons, including an in-depth breakdown of what he could become from this offseason. Allen is the story of the season, and if he keeps it up, the Bills will continue to be the team that no one wants to play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: https://theathletic.com/2115216/2020/10/05/seven-observations-from-bills-win-josh-allen-dominates-defense-shows-up?source=user-shared-article Allen is turning into the QB the Bills hoped for Allen put together an incredible passing performance for the fourth straight game, coming up again with clutch throws. We’re witnessing a young quarterback turning into a budding superstar. Every week, Allen keeps giving more reasons as to why he’s far beyond the player we saw last season. For starters, there’s the accuracy. Allen has yet to complete less than 68 percent of his passes in a game, and for the season, he’s completing 71 percent of passes. Allen was also on against the Raiders, completing 24 of 34 attempts, but five incompletions were due to either a drop or a throwaway to avoid a negative play. His adjusted completion percentage against Las Vegas was an incredible 82.8 percent. And it isn’t just how often he found his target, it’s how he was completing his passes. It’s the depth of target, the confidence to hit small windows and how he manipulates the defense with his progressions to find receivers down the field. Allen’s should-have-been touchdown throw to John Brown that officials ruled down at the 1 was an all-world completion. Only a handful of players have the confidence, zip and accuracy potential to make that play, and Allen pulled it off. Even more, we’ve witnessed Allen do away with his panicking against unique blitzes. No longer does he wilt under pressure. In the past, Allen either turned his back and took the sack or he bailed out of the pocket without a plan. With the help of offensive coordinator Brian Daboll and quarterbacks coach Ken Dorsey, Allen almost always has a backup plan. If a defense sends pressure he didn’t expect, he knows where his quick read is most of the time. Allen has improved in every area of his game. Does he still have some regrettable plays? Absolutely. He took a sack to knock the Bills out of field goal range, and he recklessly flipped forward a pass that resulted in an injury. But those plays are so few and far between these days that they aren’t huge issues any longer. Allen has taken his game to another level and is playing the best football by a Bills quarterback since Jim Kelly. The weight of that sentence is not lost on me, and it’s not something you write without plenty of evidence. It’s immense praise, but Allen has deserved it this season. His performance helped put away two potential playoff teams in consecutive weeks. Allen is on the shortlist in the early season MVP discussion and appears to be headed to superstar status. We’ve been tracking his immense growth for two seasons, including an in-depth breakdown of what he could become from this offseason. Allen is the story of the season, and if he keeps it up, the Bills will continue to be the team that no one wants to play. I only have a problem with "...recklessly flipped forward a pass that resulted in an injury." The throw got to where he intended it and had nothing to do with causing an injury. It was a late hit to his head by a defender who then landed on his torso with his full body weight to drive his shoulder into the ground. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 21 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Just such an incredible pass. Not that the "what if" game matters much, but if he were credited with a TD on that play and weren't given that stupid INT, his Passer Rating would be 127.8... just a note... And he would have the same TD and Int number of Rodgers... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stank_Nasty Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 On 10/4/2020 at 9:18 PM, YoloinOhio said: NoT aCcUrAtE inside look at the booth during the last 2 games Spero and Adam have covered Allen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 Our defense is a BIG concern, but I guess that's for another thread. What the heck was up with Andre Roberts tonight? As for Allen, that first Interception really wasn't Allen's fault. The 2nd one obviously was horrible. Several drops today. Allen's ball placement was a little off today, but a lot of the drops that happened today were catches our WRs were making in the last 4 games. Allen still made a lot of great throws, but he looked a little shaky and rattled after getting intercepted on his first pass. As confusing and seemingly contradictory as this may sound, I don't understand why Daboll was so persistent with our game plan tonight, which wasn't working. Too much running with our RBs. You can tell there was a shift there when we put Yeldon in. At that point you could see Daboll realized something. This game was a dud. Let's hope first of all that Buffalo doesn't get any Covid positives as a result of today's game. Secondly, let's hope we actually show up for our SCHEDULED (sort of) primetime game next week at home against the Chiefs on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 https://theathletic.com/news/tennessee-titans-buffalo-bills-derrick-henry-ryan-tannehill/pHYhLp6xL5o0 What changed for Allen and are there reasons for concern? Matthew Fairburn, Bills beat writer: Allen was far from the Bills' biggest problem in this game, but the third-year quarterback couldn't carry the team the way he did in Buffalo's first four games. Without John Brown in the lineup, Allen forced the ball to Stefon Diggs most of the night. When Allen didn't go to Diggs, he dealt with drops, one of which led to a Titans interception. Then he made a costly error, throwing a careless interception that helped the Titans go up 28-10. He had some spectacular moments evading pressure and throwing on the run, but Allen's mistakes held him back. With Brown back and playing against lesser defenses, Allen should look more like the quarterback the Bills saw in the first four games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 One remaining issue is Allen regressing when players around him let him down a few times. Make no mistake, the drops and Roberts giving the ball to the Titans on his first pass, strongly affected this game. Add in no deep threat in Brown, equaled less spacing and explosiveness. Then multiple all that by a team surrounding him that looked like they had no interest in playing today, led by a defense who’s highest paid player couldn’t play and puts insane pressure on the offense to be near perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Someone later in the week will do an all22 analysis and see that the Titans were confusing him w different looks in zone Timing was completely off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 The Titans almost went to the Super Bowl The only problem here is the fans thought this would be a cakewalk No one understands how good the Titans (who were clearly galvanized by the Corona) are and were ready to beat anyone tonight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Let’s be honest, the run game and defense has been bad to mediocre all year. This team lives and dies by Josh Allen, if he has a bad half or quarter, bad things happen. 62% 262 with 2 TDs, 2 picks is an awful game for Allen, that’s how good he’s been the last 16 games. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I just think this was the perfect storm for the Titans as they had their bye week early, weren’t able to practice which kept the Titans players bodies fresh, the Bills being down four starters and the Bills having to prepare for two teams [Chiefs, Titans] as I’m sure the coaches weren’t sure if tonight’s game was going to be played with the amount of positive COVID tests. Not making excuses for anybody, but everything for the Bills just seemed off and out of sync. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Someone later in the week will do an all22 analysis and see that the Titans were confusing him w different looks in zone Timing was completely off Yeah, there were guys dropping with underneath leverage into his normal throwing windows that he wasn't seeing. It was something he has seen very seldom this season, but NFL being NFL him and Daboll are gonna need to figure that out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 It’s hard to win when you throw 2 picks & give up huge punt returns and make countless Offside, holding penalties. No QB could have made the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: And so it begins, he's slipped below 70%. The question is will he slip all the way back down to the high 50's by season's end? I think it's possible because the problems on D cannot be fixed without an influx of talent, so Allen might revert back to hero ball as the losses stack up. Oh nooooo he's *checks notes* 0.7 percent below 70%. Lmao. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, SCBills said: One remaining issue is Allen regressing when players around him let him down a few times. Make no mistake, the drops and Roberts giving the ball to the Titans on his first pass, strongly affected this game. Add in no deep threat in Brown, equaled less spacing and explosiveness. Then multiple all that by a team surrounding him that looked like they had no interest in playing today, led by a defense who’s highest paid player couldn’t play and puts insane pressure on the offense to be near perfect. This was just a weird game I was hoping would be put off to a week 18. There were so many conditions to this game being played it made it impossible for Buffalo know if they should be mentally prepared for the Titans or the Chiefs. I expect McDermott is using this game as a teachable moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 25 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: And so it begins, he's slipped below 70%. The question is will he slip all the way back down to the high 50's by season's end? I think it's possible because the problems on D cannot be fixed without an influx of talent, so Allen might revert back to hero ball as the losses stack up. He had a bad game and still completed 63% of his passes. Did anyone really expect him to finish the season with a 70% completion percentage? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseman3 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 The lack of run game is super concerning. We need something to be able to take some press off Allen, especially on a somewhat off night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: The Titans almost went to the Super Bowl The only problem here is the fans thought this would be a cakewalk No one understands how good the Titans (who were clearly galvanized by the Corona) are and were ready to beat anyone tonight. I totally agree on the Titans being a legit team and this not being a cakewalk. But the problem is this turned into a cakewalk for the Titans. I would have at least wanted to see a one score game which is what I thought we would get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 35 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: And so it begins, he's slipped below 70%. The question is will he slip all the way back down to the high 50's by season's end? I think it's possible because the problems on D cannot be fixed without an influx of talent, so Allen might revert back to hero ball as the losses stack up. It was one game. And even in this "bad" game he was 62%. I'm much, much, MUCH more worried about our Defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: It's still below 70% though... I was hoping for mid 60's for a full season this year, so we'll see. I just wanted him above 60 percent. Thought he could be a franchise guy like Newton was early in his career. Newton was always a 58-60% passer even in his MVP season. At this point I think it's almost impossible for him to dip below 65% based on what I've seen out of him. I mean he was 63% tonight without his second best receiver. He had how many drops at least 6 probably? If half of those go for completions he's over 70% for the game. I'm looking forward to the New England game because that one will really tell us a lot. Will he have one of those 50% completion games? 14 minutes ago, wiseman3 said: The lack of run game is super concerning. We need something to be able to take some press off Allen, especially on a somewhat off night. Even more concerning with Allen playing so well taking the top off the defenses this year you would figure things would open up in the run game. Our pass blocking is terrific though. It's like our guys only practice the pass blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 6 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: It was one game. And even in this "bad" game he was 62%. I'm much, much, MUCH more worried about our Defense. yet you keep chasing these stats .. Josh is but 1 player on the team and these stats are not a reflection of Josh Allen alone, but the team. Josh has improved We all see it. the #'s will go up and down with each game. you are chasing 👻's here now put in a silly gif as a reply. It is what it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: It was one game. And even in this "bad" game he was 62%. I'm much, much, MUCH more worried about our Defense. If this is Allen on a bad night, I’ll take it. The first pick was a bad drop by a WR who never should have been on the field, and there were about 4 other bad drops after that, including a horrible one by Knox on a play that would have gone for 25 yards. (When is this guy going to stop killing the Bills with easy drops at the worst possible times?) On the first TD drive Allen converted about six third-and-longs and made an insane throw to Davis for a TD that was brought back because someone wasn’t set. After that, they were playing from behind with no credible running threat and a Bills defense that demanded he score a TD every possession. Edited October 14, 2020 by mannc 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Allen literally dragged the Bills offense to their points in the first half. The Bills D and ST put them behind the 8-ball all day, so the Titans D were Billsing the Bills O in the 2nd, forcing them to matriculate down the field. Allen was executing that plan on the drive that started at the 2, and then made the one bad decision. Then he successfully executed on the 2nd drive all the way down the field, with that TD to Yeldon being one of those "Josh and nobody else" throws. Then the D and ST never got him the ball again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Allen was the least of my worries last night. Didnt have a "great" game, threw his first REAL int... but was hardly the reason for the loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 https://theathletic.com/2143605/2020/10/17/are-the-buffalo-bills-the-real-deal-going-inside-the-numbers-and-the-eye-test?source=user-shared-article We won’t know what Allen’s injury prospects will look like, but the scheme is hardly unique and he doesn’t seem to be benefiting from an extraordinary amount of luck. His supporting cast is great at nearly every spot on the offense, but he also suffers from a high drop rate — per Pro Football Focus, it’s the highest in the NFL at 7.9 percent. Though he’s had a dropped pick here or there, his turnover-worthy play percentage is not especially high at 3.21 percent — about average, again per PFF. As a result, he has the fourth-highest adjusted accuracy rate, once taking away throwaways, batted passes, spiked balls and balls thrown while being hit while counting drops as completions. Given that he’s a fairly deep passer, that’s impressive. One way to evaluate the impact deep passing has had on his accuracy, we can look at passing plus-minus, a metric developed by NFL Next Gen Stats. It uses data gathered from chips in shoulder pads and the ball to take into account the difficulty of throws, as determined by pocket pressure, depth downfield, distance of nearest defender, distance to the sideline and a few other factors. By that metric, Allen has had 2.7 completion percentage points above expected. That ranks 20th, but because it only counts completions and not “accurate passes,” it happens to underrate Allen. Once we give every quarterback equal “luck” with regards to drops, batted passes, etc., Allen’s completion rate above expected rises to 5.26, sixth in the NFL. One big factor in determining whether a team will regress is the play of the quarterback and whether his play is sustainable. For Allen, the signs point to yes — at least for this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2020/10/16/titans-show-josh-allen-how-hard-the-nfl-is-for-every-young-quarterback/?utm_source=MSN&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=inline-related Decent article. Didn't want to create a new thread for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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