4_kidd_4 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 My sis lives about 1.5 miles up 20 from the stadium, we’ll probably be over there “tailgating” on their deck for a few games, with a small group of fam. Close enough, and the responsible thing to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Yeah, but in this example its the pneumonia that is the equivalent of COVID. When that person dies, would you say the Cancer or the COVID killed them? Joe Diffy had stage 4 lung cancer, but he died from Covid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 14 hours ago, RiotAct said: Rhetorical question; when WILL it be safe to tailgate again? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Apparently Kirk Cousins would be tailgating and inviting everyone he knew. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) Quote No Bills fans, no tailgate, Orchard Park Town Board announces The reason? If there are no fans allowed in the stadium, the Erie County Department of Health will not permit any tailgate activities. Published: 4:31 PM EDT August 19, 2020 Updated: 11:31 PM EDT August 19, 2020 ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. — There will be no tailgating at Bills game, according to the Orchard Park Town Board on Wednesday night. The reason? If there are no fans allowed in the stadium, the Erie County Department of Health will not permit any tailgate activities. That could change going forward, however, according to County Execctive Mark Poloncarz. "If NYS allows fans to attend Bills games, tailgating will be allowed, but with restrictions to protect the public. Currently NYS does not allow attendance at any pro sports event. Thus tailgating in public and private lots will depend on whether fans can attend the games," he said in a tweet Wednesday night. The Orchard Park Town Board announced that news during a public hearing on Wednesday night, when they aimed to decide on tailgating and whether it should be allowed to go on in private residential and commercial lots surrounding the Bills' complex in the fall. Several local restaurants and bars had also requested permission to set up tents on their properties. The Bills' first home game against the New York Jets is now less than a month away, on September 13. Councilman Conor Flynn sent 2 On Your Side an email last week, noting that after hearing from residents and business people and state and county officials, he is recommending that tailgating should be allowed to go on in private residential and commercial lots surrounding the Bills complex during the upcoming season. Councilman Gene Majchrzak last week saud he was willing to go along with tailgating for now but with a quote "short leash" to revoke any permit if there is a problem. The dissenting note came from Supervisor Patrick Keem, who said it's estimated that the town must cover about $10,000 in police costs for every home game. Related Article Edited September 2, 2020 by cd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 15 hours ago, RiotAct said: Rhetorical question; when WILL it be safe to tailgate again? ? November 4th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of them got together elsewhere, but it's not happening in it's traditional form. 2 minutes ago, uticaclub said: November 4th I give it a couple of weeks after for the initial fallout alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 There will still be people coming to see if any private lots are hosting "viewing parties with their friends". But will the private lot owners risk not being allowed to get a permit to have parking by letting people tailgate? That is the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwater10 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, uticaclub said: 15 hours ago, RiotAct said: Rhetorical question; when WILL it be safe to tailgate again? ? November 4th Rhetorical question: Why are so many who are so vocal about safety, so unwilling to take measures to ensure it? Perhaps your answer will determine how well you handle November 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 The lots will be closed and I expect a heavy police presence will be around in case people try so they can end it quickly. The village of OP already said no to private lots and I doubt they will allow any wiggle room along with the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
416BillsFan Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, eball said: Apparently Kirk Cousins would be tailgating and inviting everyone he knew. Thielen talking some sense into him: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnywo Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 13 hours ago, eball said: The players really seem to like it. What’s the problem? OLD is the problem.... So...we can go to Walmart, Costco, Home Depot, eat outside, get our hair cut outside, workout outside, etc.... but can't watch football outside? I wonder if food is there will it be allowed? Just have a BBQ going to go with your coldbeer. Sounds right to me. ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 15 hours ago, SDS said: can we just grow up and lose the bills mafia schtick? I’ve been on this bandwagon since this mafia nonsense started. It’s a joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 16 hours ago, RiotAct said: lol, yes it was fully a tongue-in-cheek post. And look, I get that no tailgates isn’t a big deal whatsoever in the grand scheme of things. Neither is not being able to go to games in person. It just sucks because there’s been hundreds of little “not that big of a deal”s piling up over the last six months. Couple that with the government arbitrarily picking winners and losers when it comes to these things and..... yeesh. And yeah I know, WWII ration lines, first world problems, stop complaining, yadda yadda. I have no pity for this type of crap. Awww, you need to wear a mask and stay home to save people's lives? Aww, poor little you. Awww, lots of stuff piling up? Stop whining. Try living through this with cancer, getting radiation, having a suppressed immune system, and being petrified everytime you go outside that some maskless selfish moron gets too close and potentially KILLS YOU. Awww. Don't talk to me about hundreds of "no big deal" things. I'll give you "yeesh." Man up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 4 hours ago, Gene1973 said: I think their poor health/genetics killed them ultimately. You can actually help your body resist many diseases by staying fit. I'm no expert on death but I think it is rarely a singular thing that leads to it, there is a domino effect of systems crashing. Acurately reporting the deaths' circumstances is important for future data analysis when faced with the next heath crisis. Garbage. Covid kills people with preexisting conditions who normally would be able to live for many years with them. I stayed VERY fit. Still got cancer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 14 hours ago, That's No Moon said: Agreed. I'd love for these people to meet their great-great grandparents who would smack the mess out of them. It's not really my thing either but c'mon man. Let the kids have their fun. Except when their fun can easily KILL someone. Screw that, it's a ridiculous notion. How about teaching the kids to care for their fellow man? Wouldn't that be more productive than letting the selfish idiots "have their fun?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Why cant private lots have tailgates? Isnt it their property? If the tailgate was kept under whatever Cuomos public gathering number is (50? 100?) then how can cops justify shutting those down? I dont care either way so dont go attacking me, I just dont legally understand how these could be stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 7 hours ago, Gene1973 said: I've read a study where 94% of COVID19 deaths were due to comorbidity as opposed to sraight up COVID19 deaths. I would say fans should be able to tailgate, and quite frankly attend games. We work in offices with recycled air, and only wear masks when within 6 ft, tailgating and game attendance is outdoors... Where's the study? Link? That is complete bunk. Do you even know what co-morbidity is? Go to the CDC website. If you look at total excess deaths compared to total expected deaths, you get a significant jump. Over 10%, and some weeks 20%. To break it down, way more people are dying overall in 2020 than would have in a normal year. And this doesn't even count people who don't die but are debilitated from the disease. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm Attending games and tailgating would stupid, and dangerous to people who are at risk because a game or a tailgate could easily increase the spread of the disease. We don't need selfish acts like that. Just because you are healthy doesn't mean you can't pass it on to someone who isn't. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Peaceful protests with beer and food, about not being able to attend NFL games. All you need is a few signs stating such.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 30 minutes ago, todd said: Except when their fun can easily KILL someone. Screw that, it's a ridiculous notion. How about teaching the kids to care for their fellow man? Wouldn't that be more productive than letting the selfish idiots "have their fun?" The #BillsMafia hashtag kills people? That's what that response was about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 This is another IQ test, right... Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 18 hours ago, RiotAct said: I get what you’re saying, but the irresponsible knuckleheads are few and far between (but, granted, they get all the publicity from the outlets like Barstool Sports). Rhetorical question; when WILL it be safe to tailgate again? ? As long as it takes. Safety matters far more than time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 I got word of one lot that is allowing 50 fans in. Less than 10 spots remain available. There will be rules and procedures though, so don't expect your usual "anything goes" tailgate. Anyone interested? I'm considering it, since I still have my hotel reserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Just now, Just Jack said: I got word of one lot that is allowing 50 fans in. Less than 10 spots remain available. There will be rules and procedures though, so don't expect your usual "anything goes" tailgate. Anyone interested? I'm considering it, since I still have my hotel reserved. I won’t be able to make it down, but I’d be very interested in hearing more details (ie, masks unless you’re consuming food or beverage? No walking up and talking to people outside of your party?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 What the ***** is "Bills mafia"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 On 9/2/2020 at 12:44 PM, PaattMaann said: Why cant private lots have tailgates? Isnt it their property? If the tailgate was kept under whatever Cuomos public gathering number is (50? 100?) then how can cops justify shutting those down? I dont care either way so dont go attacking me, I just dont legally understand how these could be stopped. Just call it a BLM protest and you’ll be fine...😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 On 9/1/2020 at 7:35 PM, That's No Moon said: Again, in other news people don't want to hear, rushing vaccines isn't a good idea. It has been done in the past and there have been significant problems. When I have friends in big pharma telling me to my face that they wouldn't rush to the front of the line for these it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence and I'm a fully pro-vaccination person. Not to get too far into vax stuff, but this virus was fully mapped just 2 weeks after being identified and half a year ago. There is no precedent that can be applied to this worldwide vaccine effort. From the level of financial investment to the collective brain of every repected immunologist on the globe, this is truly unique. When someone says "Oh I work in pharma, this is a rushed vaccine, be careful" I bust out my tshirt with a pic of Fauci throwing out that horrendous first pitch and say "im followin THIS guy.... sure he can't throw AT ALL but thats because his brain sucks up all the muscle coordination." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 On 9/1/2020 at 8:03 PM, PromoTheRobot said: Absolutely. But even if you had a fully tested safe vaccine you'd still have that percentage not getting it. That won't affect those of us that get the vaccine though. Either way everyone will develop immunity to this virus eventually, either by getting it live from another person or attenuated in vax form. One is a helluva lot more friendly to your body than the other, but there are a lot of people that still think there is mercury and toxic additives to vaccines. A LOT of people. If I believed that nonsense I'd be passing on the vac too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 On 9/2/2020 at 8:09 AM, cwater10 said: Thanks for sharing that. I can relate to every part of your story. ODAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, T&C said: What the ***** is "Bills mafia"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 On 9/1/2020 at 10:34 PM, That's No Moon said: What movie is this lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 23 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: What movie is this lol PCU!! It’s freaking hilarious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: PCU!! It’s freaking hilarious Thanks seemed right up my alley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, T&C said: What the ***** is "Bills mafia"? It’s a millennial thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 On 9/1/2020 at 4:02 PM, RiotAct said: I get what you’re saying, but the irresponsible knuckleheads are few and far between (but, granted, they get all the publicity from the outlets like Barstool Sports). Rhetorical question; when WILL it be safe to tailgate again? ? Depends who you talk to. Really your outside and if you stay in your bubble and maintain distance it should be as safe as most activities. On 9/2/2020 at 9:52 AM, todd said: Where's the study? Link? That is complete bunk. Do you even know what co-morbidity is? Go to the CDC website. If you look at total excess deaths compared to total expected deaths, you get a significant jump. Over 10%, and some weeks 20%. To break it down, way more people are dying overall in 2020 than would have in a normal year. And this doesn't even count people who don't die but are debilitated from the disease. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm Attending games and tailgating would stupid, and dangerous to people who are at risk because a game or a tailgate could easily increase the spread of the disease. We don't need selfish acts like that. Just because you are healthy doesn't mean you can't pass it on to someone who isn't. no more dangerous than going to a grocery store imo. Your outside and can easily distance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 On 9/2/2020 at 10:57 AM, todd said: As long as it takes. Safety matters far more than time. Hypothetically speaking, you would be okay without a lot of activities for the rest of your life? Or do you have a time limit? That is quite the statement. Living 90 years in a bubble is better than living x years actually living. What is the x for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: What movie is this lol It's called PCU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Please don't. It's embarrassing enough already. We don't need stories of drunk unmasked people outside the stadium smashing tables during COVID-19. There were 80k plus in the stadium when we were just called fans. Pegs needs to put an end to this stupid nickname. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 On 9/2/2020 at 2:02 AM, Gene1973 said: I've read a study where 94% of COVID19 deaths were due to comorbidity as opposed to sraight up COVID19 deaths. I would say fans should be able to tailgate, and quite frankly attend games. We work in offices with recycled air, and only wear masks when within 6 ft, tailgating and game attendance is outdoors... You have no idea what you are saying. You don't even know the meaning of the word co-morbidity. Yes almost all people who died from COVID-19 had a comorbidity, it doesn't mean their comorbidity killed them. They died from complications of COVID such as respiratory failure, embolism, and heart damage caused by the virus or the bodies reaction to the virus. There are hundreds of comorbid conditions like hypertension and obesity. Judging by a walk through the parking lot my guess is well more than half the people will have a comorbid condition. On 9/1/2020 at 7:12 PM, eball said: The players really seem to like it. What’s the problem? It's embarrassing. Bills fans travel as well as any fan base in the nation. That should be our story. Not drunks smashing tables. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 13 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Just call it a BLM protest and you’ll be fine...😉 Bills Lives Matter... I like it. 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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