John Brown with high praise for rookie WRs “Gabriel Davis playing all over the field”

[Sherlock Holmes]

Wish Sills V had a start like this to his rookie year

[billsfan89]

If this team hits long term on Davis that will be huge for this team going forward. Brown and Beasley are older (and Brown carries a big injury history) and Diggs isn't super young for the position. If McBeane can get a guy like Davis to develop into a higher end starting WR it would greatly ensure the future of the team. 

[BornAgainBillsFan]

I was upset when Beane & Co. picked Gabe over Antonio Gandy-Golden. (His college highlight tape was the closest thing I've ever seen to Jerry Rice's at Mississippi Valley State; not saying he's the next Jerry Rice, just the tapes had equal "WOW" factors.)

 

But I also trust Beane. If he picked a worker who will contribute now, and might start in a few years, it'll soon be "Antonio WHO??"

[Shaw66]

2 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

Sooooo at the risk of being that overdramatic fan that reads too far into everything: those vets that don't know the playbook are Foster and Duke, right? 

Good bet.  I hope it isn't Diggs!

 

Man, it's all so competitive.  Absolute dogfights for a job.  

 

Talk about managing the roster.  Receivers added since January 1, 2019:  Beasley, Brown, Knox, Kroft, Williams, Diggs, Hodgins, and Davis.

[Fr. Jerk]

John should make sure they have as good of a touchdown dance as he does. His is one of the most underrated, ya dig?

 

 

 

[machine gun kelly]

Well, Roberts doesn’t have anything to worry about.  “Hey, Roberts, when they kick or punt that ball to you, just run Forest run”.  I knew Davis would have a real shot at making the 53.  It would be great if Hodgins does as well.  Remember Brown and Beasley are 30 and 31.  In two years these guys will be great adds to the team and cheap labor for four years.  Foster is all but gone, Williams to the PS, and maybe McKenzie is kept as he can play WR, DB in a pinch, returner, and overall gadget guy.

 

Diggs

Brown

Beasely

Roberts

Davis

Hodgins

 

Speed, elusiveness, over the middle, returner, and now finally size.  Foster should work hard at finding work at one of the places weak at WR.  We’re not there anymore for once.

[cwater10]

2 hours ago, FireChans said:

Just an unacceptable answer here from John Brown. He didn’t even answer the question and he had ample chance to explain what he’s helped the rookies with.

 

Unacceptable answer? Are you serious? Smoke is clearly demonstrating leadership here in calling out rookies for being ready and well prepared.  That IS just one way that he's helping them.  This should be obvious to all but the jaded.  Props to John Brown for showing how to lead as well...

[Warcodered]

13 minutes ago, cwater10 said:

 

Unacceptable answer? Are you serious? Smoke is clearly demonstrating leadership here in calling out rookies for being ready and well prepared.  That IS just one way that he's helping them.  This should be obvious to all but the jaded.  Props to John Brown for showing how to lead as well...

lot of people missing the Marcel Louis-Jaques joke.

[MAJBobby]

At the end of it.  I am going to say I think Hodgins will be the Gem out of these two WRs.  And I like Davis as well, I just think there is more upside with Hodgins

 

[Buffalo716]

38 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

If this team hits long term on Davis that will be huge for this team going forward. Brown and Beasley are older (and Brown carries a big injury history) and Diggs isn't super young for the position. If McBeane can get a guy like Davis to develop into a higher end starting WR it would greatly ensure the future of the team. 

Diggs is 26. He hasn't even entered his prime yet

 

He's totally young for a wide receiver

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

At the end of it.  I am going to say I think Hodgins will be the Gem out of these two WRs.  And I like Davis as well, I just think there is more upside with Hodgins

 

 

Think totally the opposite. Not completely discounting Hodgins but think Gabe Davis's ceiling is very high. 

[BornAgainBillsFan]

15 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

lot of people missing the Marcel Louis-Jaques joke.

 

Yeah, the 16 laugh emojis for @FireChans is a dead give-away.

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Think totally the opposite. Not completely discounting Hodgins but think Gabe Davis's ceiling is very high. 

I have Watched a Ton of Gabe Davis in UCF.  I do see him as an outside looking in WR1 with top end WR2.  Hodgins with that Size Speed Combo opposite Diggs, and you have a 1A and 1B in the future, granted they have to hit those benchmarks but everything is projection right now.

[Punching Bag]

24 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

lot of people missing the Marcel Louis-Jaques joke.

 

if he keeps it up he will become the joke like last ESPN "Bills" reporter.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Buh Bye Duke Williams and Robert Foster

 

Foster caught 3 of 18 targets last year... How will we replace production like that?!!!!  I wonder if either will end up playing some on special teams this season.  Helps you get an active spot on gameday.  Mckenzie v roberts will be interesting too.  1.5 mil vs. 750k in savings on cap.  I think Roberts is the more secure returner of the 2, but mckenzie definitely showed some abilities on offense (3 TDs and 500 yards on like 60 touches).  

 

Duke was a nice story, and both he and foster probably still have PS eligibility.  Nice to have guys there who have played a bit in the NFL, and who have familiarity across the offense.  If we lose them - no harm.  Neither was particularly good.

58 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

Well, Roberts doesn’t have anything to worry about.  “Hey, Roberts, when they kick or punt that ball to you, just run Forest run”.  I knew Davis would have a real shot at making the 53.  It would be great if Hodgins does as well.  Remember Brown and Beasley are 30 and 31.  In two years these guys will be great adds to the team and cheap labor for four years.  Foster is all but gone, Williams to the PS, and maybe McKenzie is kept as he can play WR, DB in a pinch, returner, and overall gadget guy.

 

Diggs

Brown

Beasely

Roberts

Davis

Hodgins

 

Speed, elusiveness, over the middle, returner, and now finally size.  Foster should work hard at finding work at one of the places weak at WR.  We’re not there anymore for once.

 

You won't keep 7, so to me mckenzie and roberts is a battle on its own.  

[John from Riverside]

This was supposed to be a VERY strong WR draft......dont be suprised if the bills hit on TWO WR's

 

With Smoke and Cole coming up to the end of their contracts soon.....this is important

[machine gun kelly]

Dnevue, not me saying it.  Those MTC guys broke down all the position groups and most teams with maybe an exception or two bepased on coaching tendencies tend to keep the same amt. at each position group.  I don’t have a problem with 7, but if they moved the PS up to 16, and they can be activated as late as Saturday night, then you have to ask, if they move to7 on the 53, then where does that spot come from on what other position group.  You definitely don’t want to lower the RB’s or O Lineman as those guys get hurt more easily than a WR simply due to the repeated contact.

[GunnerBill]

57 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

I have Watched a Ton of Gabe Davis in UCF.  I do see him as an outside looking in WR1 with top end WR2.  Hodgins with that Size Speed Combo opposite Diggs, and you have a 1A and 1B in the future, granted they have to hit those benchmarks but everything is projection right now.

 

Hodgins lacks speed and separation ability for me. 

[John from Riverside]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Hodgins lacks speed and separation ability for me. 

I look at Hodgins and I see a big tall wideout like KB that actually catches the ball

 

And then I go back to the film and I watch all those times Josh threw KB catchable balls that he DROPPED

 

I think IH has a place on this team

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 hours ago, JMF2006 said:

What would be more acceptable to you?

That they misplaced their playbooks and don't know where to line up?

 

They're just playin' on M L-J's response to Fromm, that's all.

[YoloinOhio]

4 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

Sooooo at the risk of being that overdramatic fan that reads too far into everything: those vets that don't know the playbook are Foster and Duke, right? 

 

[billsfan89]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

Diggs is 26. He hasn't even entered his prime yet

 

He's totally young for a wide receiver

 

He will be 27 in November, that being said he is in his prime and I think he can anchor the WR1 position for 3 to 4 seasons and still be productive for another 2 to 3 after that. But my main point was that he is someone who in 3 years might not have to much "prime" years left and might need a younger player to take the pressure off.

[Don Otreply]

3 hours ago, Mountain Man said:

That isn't how it looked

From what I read thats how it came across to me... a good natured light hearted pat on the back for the rooks being prepared for camp, it’s a good sign those two youngsters are doing their best to grab the bull by the horns, as is said, they both have a steep road to get where they want to be. The writing is on the wall for all to see, Williams,  Foster, and Mckittric and the rooks competing to two spots, we shall see...

 

Go Bills!!!

[GunnerBill]

54 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I look at Hodgins and I see a big tall wideout like KB that actually catches the ball

 

And then I go back to the film and I watch all those times Josh threw KB catchable balls that he DROPPED

 

I think IH has a place on this team

 

I am less convinced. He has a shot but I think he is likely a practice squad guy. 

[H2o]

And there's no preseason to be able to see them go in live action

[cwater10]

2 hours ago, Warcodered said:

2 hours ago, cwater10 said:

Unacceptable answer? Are you serious? Smoke is clearly demonstrating leadership here in calling out rookies for being ready and well prepared.  That IS just one way that he's helping them.  This should be obvious to all but the jaded.  Props to John Brown for showing how to lead as well...

lot of people missing the Marcel Louis-Jaques joke.

 

So I should take comfort in having company?  Damn..  Me 2 hours ago:  "why are Bills fans so miserable?"  Me walking my recyclables to the curb 10 minutes ago:  "Oh sh**, I think I've lost a few feet off the fastball....  I totally missed where FireChans was going there."  Well played FireChans and thanks for the gentle nudge from Warcoded.  Think I'll slide off to get ready for the big test...

 

person, man, woman, TV, camera.  wait....

person, woman, man, TV, camera.  cmon... one more try.  If I can do this, I'll be on Rushmore someday

person, woman, man, camera, TV...   SCORE!

Edited August 10, 2020 by cwater10

[Just Joshin']

23 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

From what I read thats how it came across to me... a good natured light hearted pat on the back for the rooks being prepared for camp, it’s a good sign those two youngsters are doing their best to grab the bull by the horns, as is said, they both have a steep road to get where they want to be. The writing is on the wall for all to see, Williams,  Foster, and Mckittric and the rooks competing to two spots, we shall see...

 

Go Bills!!!

You are confused......You need to always look to say something negative.  If need be, make it up.

[Mountain Man]

32 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

From what I read thats how it came across to me

You can view the video and not just rely on the words

[Don Otreply]

31 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said:

You are confused......You need to always look to say something negative.  If need be, make it up.

Thank you, aren’t we all, ?

[Don Otreply]

3 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

At the end of it.  I am going to say I think Hodgins will be the Gem out of these two WRs.  And I like Davis as well, I just think there is more upside with Hodgins

[eball]

The most exciting thing to me about Smoke's comments was that Davis is running the whole route tree.  Versatility, baby -- if every receiver can run every route the D can't "sit" on anything in particular based solely upon personnel.

[Mark Vader]

2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

This was supposed to be a VERY strong WR draft......dont be suprised if the bills hit on TWO WR's

 

With Smoke and Cole coming up to the end of their contracts soon.....this is important

This was why I was hoping that the Bills would draft two WR's this year.

 

Some people thought it would be a waste of draft picks. Saying why would we want two rookie receivers who would be fighting for the #5 & 6 spots?

 

Also, since we traded for Diggs we were already set at WR. 

 

Hearing Brown's comments is very encouraging. Big picture, people. GO BILLS!!!

[John from Riverside]

3 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

This was why I was hoping that the Bills would draft two WR's this year.

 

Some people thought it would be a waste of draft picks. Saying why would we want two rookie receivers who would be fighting for the #5 & 6 spots?

 

Also, since we traded for Diggs we were already set at WR. 

 

Hearing Brown's comments is very encouraging. Big picture, people. GO BILLS!!!

In my mind we actually drafted 3 wide outs because we gave a 1st for Diggs......we really invested in WR this year which was smart.

 

I honestly dont expect IH to just be a throw away pick.....he may very well end up on the practice squad but I think he is going to be playing for us at some point

[Ralonzo]

49 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

This was why I was hoping that the Bills would draft two WR's this year.

 

 

I was reckoning it would happen because there were Round 2/3 type receivers available in Rounds 4-6. Extraordinarily deep receiver draft.

[GunnerBill]

23 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

I was reckoning it would happen because there were Round 2/3 type receivers available in Rounds 4-6. Extraordinarily deep receiver draft.

 

Yep. Gabe Davis was a day 2 pick most other years IMO. 

[CA OC Bills Fan]

8 hours ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:

Good to hear. I would think both have a shot to make the roster or possibly protected on the practice squad.

I’m really hoping they both make the roster. I think there’s too good a chance of losing Hodgins (and of course Davis as well) if we try to get them on the practice squad. They still must clear waivers and even if they do they can only be protected part of each week. Although it may be unlikely, I’m hoping Beane can trade Foster, Williams or McKenzie for a late round draft pick. Green Bay needs receivers. Would they trade instead of risking them signing elsewhere?

[Thurman#1]

9 hours ago, FireChans said:

Just an unacceptable answer here from John Brown. He didn’t even answer the question and he had ample chance to explain what he’s helped the rookies with.

 

 

It's interesting that you think so. Particularly as Smoke's answer, unlike some others, has detail, life and clear commitment, not to mention new info. It's not just undetailed boilerplate, despite being about s subject that doesn't call into question anyone's deepest beliefs.

[FireChans]

6 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

It's interesting that you think so. Particularly as Smoke's answer, unlike some others, has detail, life and clear commitment, not to mention new info. It's not just undetailed boilerplate, despite being about s subject that doesn't call into question anyone's deepest beliefs.

What’s interesting is your inability to recognize a joke. Well maybe not interesting. I’m sure I’ll think of a word.

[loveorhatembillsfan4life]

1 hour ago, CA OC Bills Fan said:

I’m really hoping they both make the roster. I think there’s too good a chance of losing Hodgins (and of course Davis as well) if we try to get them on the practice squad. They still must clear waivers and even if they do they can only be protected part of each week. Although it may be unlikely, I’m hoping Beane can trade Foster, Williams or McKenzie for a late round draft pick. Green Bay needs receivers. Would they trade instead of risking them signing elsewhere?

Good points. I’m very excited to see what both can do. The more I think about it I think They both may end up just beating out Foster and Duke, I think we keep Roberts for special teams. Foster had some magic with Josh 2 years ago but it seems we just keep waiting to find it. 
 

 

Edited August 11, 2020 by loveorhatembillsfan4life

[Thurman#1]

9 hours ago, FireChans said:

Just an unacceptable answer here from John Brown. He didn’t even answer the question and he had ample chance to explain what he’s helped the rookies with.

 

 

It's interesting that you think so. Particularly as Smoke's answer, unlike some others, has detail, life and clear commitment, not to mention new info. It's not just undetailed boilerplate, despite being about s subject that doesn't call into question anyone's deepest beliefs.