IgotBILLStopay Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) https://billswire.usatoday.com/2020/04/29/buffalo-bills-gabriel-davis-zack-moss-nfl-combine-bert-whigham/ I was a bit underwhelmed by the Bills drafting Davis in Round 4, but this interview brings out what Beane saw in him. Count me among the believers in Gabe Davis now. Summary for those who dont want to hear the whole podcast: Whigham says Bills got a steal in Davis. Why did Gabe fall to the 4th round? Becasue he says GMs cant measure heart. Also, scouts are afraid to recommend someone from a lower school with a "slow" 40 as a higher pick since they are afraid of being blamed for busts. He says that, for a WR, 40 time is a highly overrated stat. He says there is a reason there is no Hall of Fame WR with 4.3 speed since at that speed the WR cannot really adjust and catch the ball.The key is separation and more importantly, separation at, say 4.5 or 4.6, speed. Cites Jerry Rice who had 4.5 or 4.6 speed in the 40. About Davis' heart and attitude - he says Davis was a captain the past three years at UCF (UCF won 25 games in a row in 2017 and 2018). Challenges us to name one other draft pick who was a team captain as a freshman [my insert: Our own Tre White wore #18 at LSU as a freshman, didnt he?] Also, Davis dominated every opponent he faced over three years (no one shut him down). [My own insert He is right - I couldnt find one game where he was shut down - among P5 opponents two games against Pitt (2018 - 80 yards - 1 td and 2019 - 151 yards), bowl game against LSU with Patrick Queen, Devin White & Grant Delpit LSU Defense (59 yards and a TD), against Stanford - 63 yds and a TD. And I am not even talking about him destroying Memphis which has been the second best AAc team with 128 yards] After every player is done with practice, Davis is alone out there catching balls. Says most rookies dont take criticism well and like to keep doing things they are good at - but Davis is uber coachable and always willing to work on his weakness. Says Davis has been a professional since the age of 17 and has worked out regularly with both Dak Prescott and Saquan Barkley and learned to be a professional from them. Whigham also talked briefly about Matt Milano having a handicap - coming not from Alabama or LSU - but from BC. He talked about how he has a knack for the ball and works really hard. Lastly he talked about Quinton Spain - who was an UDFA at the Titans, through hard work made the roster, then became a starter. Overall a very nice podcast that will have every Bills fan rooting for our 4 players - Spain, Milano, Davis and Moss. For news regarding JA workout next week with Smoke, Diggs and Motor see podcast two posts below Edited May 15, 2020 by IgotBILLStopay 12 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Thanks for pointing out this podcast and for the summary! I'll give it a listen. Davis was super under the radar, in my opinion. Even though I knew the Bills would draft a WR at some point, and thus, I studied many WRs before the draft, his name somehow never came up. I wasn't familiar with him at all. He is stepping into the PERFECT situation in Buffalo, with the ability to learn from some of the best pros in the league at WR and no pressure on him to contribute immediately. Same for Isaiah Hodgins. Very excited to see the receiving corps in action. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) https://www.buffalobills.com/audio/obl-5-14-offseason-training-with-bert-whigham-adam-teicher-on-2020-chiefs-andre- “Offseason trainer Bert Whigham discussed working out with current Bills players during the offseason in California and shared why he thinks Bills rookie WR Gabe Davis will be a perfect fit in Buffalo (33:03)” This touches on a bunch of things including how much Josh is doing to connect with all of the new offensive players. Cool stuff. I grasp that many disregard OBL, but this is why I listen. Edited May 15, 2020 by TroutDog 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) Really big news in the second podcast - JA and MB will travel to Florida next week to work with Diggs, Smoke and Motor!! Love it. Stay safe and keep working hard. Palmer had mentioned that one cannot improve long ball accuracy without both qb and receiver being in sync - looks like JA has taken that advice to heart. Edited May 15, 2020 by IgotBILLStopay 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 45 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Really big news in the second podcast - JA and MB will travel to Florida next week to work with Diggs, Smoke and Motor!! Love it. Stay safe and keep working hard. Palmer had mentioned that one cannot improve long ball accuracy without both qb and receiver being in sync - looks like JA has taken that advice to heart. Kind of sounding as though the TE and Beasley are gonna be "odd men out" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Kind of sounding as though the TE and Beasley are gonna be "odd men out" and the "middle" WRs (Robert Foster, Isaiah McKenzie, Duke Williams) who do not seem to be getting attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: and the "middle" WRs (Robert Foster, Isaiah McKenzie, Duke Williams) who do not seem to be getting attention. Duke had said he planned to train with Brown in FL this off season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 So.....Gabe Davis.... and....Robert Woods I wonder how closely the games of these two players resemble each other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 With our RBs and starting WRs if Gabe Davis approaches Robert Woods it will be a major help. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Logic said: Davis was super under the radar, in my opinion. Even though I knew the Bills would draft a WR at some point, and thus, I studied many WRs before the draft, his name somehow never came up. I wasn't familiar with him at all. He is stepping into the PERFECT situation in Buffalo, with the ability to learn from some of the best pros in the league at WR and no pressure on him to contribute immediately. Same for Isaiah Hodgins. Very excited to see the receiving corps in action. As I said in the Gabe Davis draft thread, as a UCF alum, I've watched this guy dominate for years, and is the exact type of WR the Bills receiver corps was lacking. Big, strong, hands-catcher with a large catch radius. Keep in mind that this guy was a top option on an offense that lead UCF to an undefeated season, a Bowl win vs. Auburn, and an overall 25 game win streak. Last season, when UCF played Stanford, Davis was guarded by a CB that is projected to be a 1st round pick in next years draft and he completely abused him all day(well, first half until the game became a blowout). I'm so excited to have him, and Zack Moss on this team!! Edited May 15, 2020 by Special K 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Oh nice, excited Allen is getting some work in with Diggs. 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Kind of sounding as though the TE and Beasley are gonna be "odd men out" I can't imagine Beasley's slot receiver role is in jeopardy. Or do you just mean odd men out for practicing in the off season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, MJS said: Oh nice, excited Allen is getting some work in with Diggs. I can't imagine Beasley's slot receiver role is in jeopardy. Or do you just mean odd men out for practicing in the off season? The latter. Even though Beasley I'm sure will remain the best slot, he still needs time and practice to sync up with Josh. Likewise the TE's 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 *NSYNC!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 That's the longest title I've ever seen on this message board 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 4 hours ago, John from Riverside said: So.....Gabe Davis.... and....Robert Woods I wonder how closely the games of these two players resemble each other? Not really at all. But in terms of where I think Davis can get to talent wise - a solid #2 receiver - there is some resemblance to Woods. Their games are quite different though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Special K said: As I said in the Gabe Davis draft thread, as a UCF alum, I've watched this guy dominate for years, and is the exact type of WR the Bills receiver corps was lacking. Big, strong, hands-catcher with a large catch radius. Keep in mind that this guy was a top option on an offense that lead UCF to an undefeated season, a Bowl win vs. Auburn, and an overall 25 game win streak. Last season, when UCF played Stanford, Davis was guarded by a CB that is projected to be a 1st round pick in next years draft and he completely abused him all day(well, first half until the game became a blowout). I'm so excited to have him, and Zack Moss on this team!! Can you imagine what his numbers might have been if Milton didnt get injured... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 8 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Kind of sounding as though the TE and Beasley are gonna be "odd men out" TE and slot need to be your underneath safety valves how many bombs does Edelman catch...not many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 weapons...offensive weapons. love hearing this kid has the work ethic with the jugs machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 4 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: That's the longest title I've ever seen on this message board No vague titles post by the mods here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 12 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Really big news in the second podcast - JA and MB will travel to Florida next week to work with Diggs, Smoke and Motor!! Love it. Stay safe and keep working hard. Palmer had mentioned that one cannot improve long ball accuracy without both qb and receiver being in sync - looks like JA has taken that advice to heart. Jake Fromm is jelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Lagoon Blues said: Can you imagine what his numbers might have been if Milton didnt get injured... I feel fine. Not sure how I could have helped. Sorry for any perceived shortcoming that you viewed as an injury. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 14 hours ago, John from Riverside said: So.....Gabe Davis.... and....Robert Woods I wonder how closely the games of these two players resemble each other? I think Davis is bigger, but ran a very incomplete route tree in college. Robert Woods came into the league as a fairly polished route runner. Davis was great at what he did in college, but he has a lot to work on in terms of route running. This has nothing to do with his talent or work ethic. It is simply about the deficiencies of his college background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 The part with Beane starts at 32:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 19 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: That's the longest title I've ever seen on this message board Size queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Josh appears to have a little more touch on throws. I hope he can keep it in game situations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 It was nice to see some “live” pitch and catch from our Bills...thanks for posting @YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 On 5/15/2020 at 2:54 AM, transplantbillsfan said: That's the longest title I've ever seen on this message board Regarding the thread title; TLDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 On 5/15/2020 at 9:35 PM, YoloinOhio said: Davis has insanely long arms.... that catch radius is gonna be nice. can wait to see Moss run over DBs ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 On 5/14/2020 at 11:11 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: Kind of sounding as though the TE and Beasley are gonna be "odd men out" Well, to be fair, neither are considered "deep threats" and that's the area Josh seems to be focusing on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Where in Florida will they be practicing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Do the players call each other by these nicknames, or do we just imagine they do? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Do the players call each other by these nicknames, or do we just imagine they do? Kudos WEO, don't know why, but this particular question reminds me of SNL's "Deep Thoughts" segment. Good stuff! Apparently there's website for that. https://www.deepthoughtsbyjackhandey.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 45 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Kudos WEO, don't know why, but this particular question reminds me of SNL's "Deep Thoughts" segment. Good stuff! Apparently there's website for that. https://www.deepthoughtsbyjackhandey.com/ I remember that skit. I just strikes me that this is a fan thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I remember that skit. I just strikes me that this is a fan thing. Probably so, although from pressers you'll hear guys referring to some of the coaches by nicknames too, like Daboll being "Coach Dabs" and the like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 On 5/15/2020 at 12:06 AM, Special K said: As I said in the Gabe Davis draft thread, as a UCF alum, I've watched this guy dominate for years, and is the exact type of WR the Bills receiver corps was lacking. Big, strong, hands-catcher with a large catch radius. Keep in mind that this guy was a top option on an offense that lead UCF to an undefeated season, a Bowl win vs. Auburn, and an overall 25 game win streak. Last season, when UCF played Stanford, Davis was guarded by a CB that is projected to be a 1st round pick in next years draft and he completely abused him all day(well, first half until the game became a blowout). I'm so excited to have him, and Zack Moss on this team!! Davis was probably drafted to replace Beasley in a year or two And i'm sure Beane will draft Jon browns replacement next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 2 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Kudos WEO, don't know why, but this particular question reminds me of SNL's "Deep Thoughts" segment. Good stuff! Apparently there's website for that. https://www.deepthoughtsbyjackhandey.com/ It’s sad that a family can be torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 10 hours ago, Penfield45 said: Davis was probably drafted to replace Beasley in a year or two And i'm sure Beane will draft Jon browns replacement next season. Yeah I know it’s early but I don’t really view Gabe Davis as a 3rd option slot guy i think This is our number 2 in the bullpen diggs is he number one not number 2 and his year but down the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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