yungmack Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Bills allowed 16 ppg last year. How does this pick move that needle? They lost Lawson, Philips and Zo. You figure it out. Edited April 25, 2020 by yungmack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Many would argue Dobbins was.... and he’s an offensive playmaker for a team void of them. So you dont think that having old DE's is a problem for our team? Edges that are good are VERY hard to find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Yes he's a great character guy. He was a 3 sport athlete in H.S. (football, discus and shot, basketball). Great kid from a great family. Hard worker, grounded, soft spoken. I saw him win the 2016 Illinois discus state championship. He threw 205 feet, still a state record. Definitely a process guy in the Beane/McD mold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan of St Augustine Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Seems like a solid pick. Admittedly, didn't watch him last season. We'll get to see him develop and I really like his size. 22. A.J. Epenesa, Edge, Iowa At this time last year, many projected Epenesa as a top-10 pick. A middling final year at Iowa has dinged his stock as teams wonder if he’s a good enough athlete to stay on the outside in the NFL. His best fit might be in the description above. It would take advantage of his 6’5, 275-pound frame and make him an asset on third downs from the inside. The only better fit might be on a team that runs a lot of three-man fronts with Epenesa bulking up a little. Smaller Calais Campbell is a pretty good way of describing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Warren Zevon said: Why can't a dude who had double digit sacks 3 years in a row and dominated top tackles develop into a great NFL pass rusher? Because he ran a 5.01 40 and he isnt JK Dobbins or Denzel Mims, and Scott Law doesnt like him and Josh Allen isnt accurate....duh 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Warren Zevon said: Why can't a dude who had double digit sacks 3 years in a row and dominated top tackles develop into a great NFL pass rusher? You need speed at this level. The guy just doesn't have that. He's gonna be a good solid DE but I'm sorry I'm just underwhelmed. I think there could have been some players that would have added more impact this year that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Stop with the Phil Hanson Chris Kelsay nonsense. They never had his stock. AJ reminds a lot of smart people as a Ryan Kerrigan type. One is saying Frank Clark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: So it's a status quo D pick He was the best player available. Edge rusher is a premium position. There would have been no issue drafting him at 22. Getting a guy who can f the play up is a hole on the team. He could be Cam Jordan or Micheal Bennet. Its a steal at 54. Dobbins? Mimms? They can get a guy in rd 3 not to far off from either. Cant say that at De. Edited April 25, 2020 by Mat68 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, BeastMaster said: This guy may not be a sack master, but he will disrupt and put pressure on the QB while doing a good job against the run. Hard to hate on the pick He'll be better at pressuring the QB than defending the run IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Buffalo Timmy said: No one we drafted there starts next year without injuries- he will start in two years and be a 3 down end by year three. He is a good pick at that point and will get on the field this year. Lol We are in win now mode right now I guarantee you Dobbins would have been a FAR more productive player these next 2 years than Epenesa 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) Edited April 25, 2020 by MAJBobby 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Green Lightning said: You need speed at this level. The guy just doesn't have that. He's gonna be a good solid DE but I'm sorry I'm just underwhelmed. I think there could have been some players that would have added more impact this year that's all. You tell me the next time this guy has to run 40 yards to get to a quarterback and Ill tell you he sucks. Otherwise you tell me how fast he is in a 6 foot dash and how many sacks he already has. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Mr. WEO said: They need to score points. His 3 draft before this one have proven this. Even Beane figured this out at some point Yes but our expertise isn't exactly on the same level when it comes to drafting and developing offensive players. That's why we've tried to sign or trade for known commodities. We used our first on Diggs. That's a pretty big investment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: You need speed at this level. The guy just doesn't have that. He's gonna be a good solid DE but I'm sorry I'm just underwhelmed. I think there could have been some players that would have added more impact this year that's all. He's fast enough - watch the tape 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Many would argue Dobbins was.... and he’s an offensive playmaker for a team void of them. I think plenty of people had Dobbins ahead of AJ. I just think we could have gotten a great playmaker on offense. Dobbins and Akers were scooped up immediately after we passed on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I can already see the panic settling in when we get a few injuries on offense and Allen is throwing to backyard football practice squad players 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Penfield45 said: Lol We are in win now mode right now I guarantee you Dobbins would have been a FAR more productive player these next 2 years than Epenesa We are hopefully in win for 20 years mode- but I expect you are fully correct about Dobbins and if you are wrong it mean AJ is better than we thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: You tell me the next time this guy has to run 40 yards to get to a quarterback and Ill tell you he sucks. Otherwise you tell me how fast he is in a 6 foot dash and how many sacks he already has. Find me one draft preview that says that this guy is going to be a good speed rusher or sack artist and it'll be the 1st . Hes gonna be a good solid DE but he is not an exciting edge rusher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Penfield45 said: I can already see the panic settling in when we get a few injuries on offense and Allen is throwing to backyard football practice squad players Did Beane trade the other 6 picks to move up for AJ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, I'm Spartacus said: Add weight? I think he goes 290 lbs. What did Bruce Smith weigh in at? Bruce was 6'4 @ 265 but played as heavy as 275. AJ goes 275 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhatharry Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Penfield45 said: I can already see the panic settling in when we get a few injuries on offense and Allen is throwing to backyard football practice squad players So funny people run to the injury line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, VW82 said: Yes but our expertise isn't exactly on the same level when it comes to drafting and developing offensive players. That's why we've tried to sign or trade for known commodities. We used our first on Diggs. That's a pretty big investment. Yes, Diggs, good get. Need a RB who the coaching staff feels can carry a load. Dobbins would been a scoring impact. That's what they need. Holding teams to under 17 doesn't work 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hardhatharry Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, ScottLaw said: It’s very frustrating. The priority is always defense over offense. They took Diggs in the first you lunatic. Just now, Mr. WEO said: Yes, Diggs, good get. Need a RB who the coaching staff feels can carry a load. Dobbins would been a scoring impact. That's what they need. Holding teams to under 17 doesn't work Wrong again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Warren Zevon said: He's fast enough - watch the tape Slow guys with tremendous hands tend to do well in hand to hand combat when they arent sprinting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Warren Zevon said: He's fast enough - watch the tape I have, and at the NFL level I'm telling you hes not going to be a speed rusher. Hes going to be a hand fight artist and a bull rusher. Solid DE but that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoolhouserock Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Love the pick. Back-to-back double-digit sack seasons and lots of TFL, too. High character guy. Great football player. His poor combine is the Bills’ gain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Bills allowed 16 ppg last year. How does this pick move that needle? They lost Lawson, Philips and Zo. You figure it out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I don’t follow any of the draft stuff very much. for anyone who does know this, why did the edge from ND fall so far? I saw a few mocks where we took him, but it looks like he won’t crack the 2nd round. is EPenesa a lot better than him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Coming into last season Epenesa was thought to be a top 10 pick. Poor combine hurt his stock. Don’t think he is ever going to be an elite player but is solid. He is not going to play here at 275-280 which probably hurt him with his speed/explosiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Penfield45 said: I can already see the panic settling in when we get a few injuries on offense and Allen is throwing to backyard football practice squad players We have Diggs, Brown & Beasley. That's easily a top 5 unit in the league. Most teams don't have 4's and 5's who can easily step into the 1 spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 epenesa vs minnesota highlights just the sacks every snap from that game - see how epenesa gets better and better as the game goes on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Hardhatharry said: They took Diggs in the first you lunatic. Wrong again. Wrong how? What did you miss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 For those of you hating the pick, watch these highlights then get back to me. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhatharry Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Mr. WEO said: Wrong how? What did you miss? You missed a lot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, McBean said: I don’t want to go through thread as it may have been discussed, but has anybody else noticed the Bills war room is the only they haven’t shown? Such BS. Didn’t help that Philly took Hurts the pick before. TV was going to blab about him endlessly no matter when he was picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoName Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 51 minutes ago, DJB said: So long Trent Murphy I didn't think of that. Good point. Saves us damn near 10 mil in cap savings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Success said: We have Diggs, Brown & Beasley. That's easily a top 5 unit in the league. Most teams don't have 4's and 5's who can easily step into the 1 spot. Penfield forgets its a 52 man roster with a salary cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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