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RD 2, Pick 54: DE AJ Epenesa, University of Iowa


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15 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

No team has three true #1 caliber receivers just lying around.   Diggs is a #1, Brown and Beasley are good options and 2 and 3.   Many non Bills fans think that this is one of the better trios out there.  Keep in mind what we had at the position in 2017 and 2018.  

 

We do need a running back at some point, but many good running backs have been drafted in the mid rounds.  

 

As far as Epenasa, seems safe and not flashy, but McDermott and Beane a good track record on picks so far, so I trust them on this


Don’t waste your time, arguing is a pastime for WEO.

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7 minutes ago, Logic said:

At the end of the day, the Bills’ top remaining need after acquiring Diggs was an edge player.

 

They got one who many thought would go in round 1, who had great college production.

 

His floor is Shaq Lawson, his ceiling is Cam Jordan. He was the legit BPA. DE is a higher value position than HB. It just is.

 

Whats not to like?

Sorry, I just feel like we drafted Chris Kelsay.

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1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Brown has been around for 6 years and barely hit 1000 yards twice. For a team's leading receiver, that's nothing these days.   Singletary had one 100 yard game over the last 8 games.

 

Ok...everyone is great.  Just because.

As I said if you want to be a pessimist I can't argue. Our Offense is much better then the numbers show and our defense is what the numbers show 

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1 minute ago, K-9 said:

His combine had no bearing on my take as we have to take the underwear olympics with a grain of salt. It’s just that little about his game jumped out at me when I watched his games and video. I think he can be a passable rotation player, and that DOES have value in this defense, but he’s not an explosive pass rusher who is going to make impact plays. Dependable players have their place, though. 

Fair enough, but the combine numbers perfectly align with the player I see on tape.

 

I think he'll be a solid contributor, but to say his floor is Lawson is a bit hyperbolic. I've heard that a few times already. 

 

If he's Lawson, it will have been an excellent pick. 

 

To the "explosive pass rusher who'll make impact plays," that's my number 1 gripe here. The front 7 is STACKED with solid players. I was hoping they'd draft a guy I felt confident could at least compete with the Desaun Watson's of the world coming off the edge.

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10 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

I hate being challenged like this?- Brown is  great(top 20 in entire NFL) and Beasley is good. Arguing Diggs is not great means you think only a few  WR are great. Singletary is great and I will state based on last 8 games last year. I will also state that no one drafted at 54 will be a starter on this team this year without injury. Lastly many people are predicting Buffalo to the SB next year due to our offense being better, so the hyperbole is not just me but several non Bills fans.

 

The D was top 2/3 last year and they didn't come close to the SB.  If their 2nd round pick keeps their D at that same high level, how does the  get them to the SB?

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4 minutes ago, Dkollidas said:

I’m happy with it. If they’re allowed to keep 55 on the roster as opposed to 53, I could see them keeping 10 defensive linemen.


I was not expecting it, but personally I love it.

 

DE:

Hughes

Addison

Epenesa 

Murphy

D. Johnson

 

DT:

Oliver

Lotulelei

Phillips

Jefferson

Butler

I didn't even think about the 55 man roster!

Beane playing 4  D chess out here!

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I'm also curious about all the people complaining about not using our 2nd to get a RB to back up our 3rd rounder...

 

I'm going to go out on a limb here...now stay with me on this one cuz I know it sounds crazy...we can back up our 3rd rounder with ANOTHER 3rd or even a 4th rounder.  Just a crazy thought but it just might work.

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2 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

As I said if you want to be a pessimist I can't argue. Our Offense is much better then the numbers show and our defense is what the numbers show 

 

 

The GM completely disagrees with you.  Why would I believe you over Beane?

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The comparisons to Lawson are off the point. He was an overreach. A decision made by a less than competent regime. This is a potential steal in the second round. Besides, with only one legitimate star in Tre White, the brain trust has already put together a top defense.  I trust the process!  

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3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

The D was top 2/3 last year and they didn't come close to the SB.  If their 2nd round pick keeps their D at that same high level, how does the  get them to the SB?


D was fantastic, but the DL was a bit lacking.   That was addressed this offseason. 
 

OL has a full year of continuity. Ford is no longer a rookie. 
 

Diggs is generally considered a Top 10 WR. Brown is a Top 10 #2.  Cole Beasley is a very good slot.  
 

Knox is no longer a rookie at a position that usually takes time to transition.  
 

Singletary no longer a rookie, and we likely upgrade RB2 from what Gore gave us.  
 

Josh Allen - Year 3

 

WHAT DO YOU WANT!?!?

 

Heaven help me if you say Denzel friggin Mims...

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1 minute ago, Johnnycage46 said:

With that in mind why would you question this pick?  Boom, roasted?

 

Guy can't help himself.

 

Roasted...LOL. 

1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Maybe we'll go all Iowa and take Ojemudia!

 

nope

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1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

I wouldn’t have wanted Epenesa at 22, but I’m happy to get him at 54.  It took me some time to come around on him because I didn’t understand what a power DE should look like.  He’s going to be a good player and it’s definitely a position of need.  

I can recall some sites predicting the Bills to take this player at #22 so I'm happy.

 

Kinda surprised Beane stayed put at 54. Thought he would move up.  

 

Gotta love those Samoans! 

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3 minutes ago, SCBills said:


D was fantastic, but the DL was a bit lacking.   That was addressed this offseason. 
 

OL has a full year of continuity. Ford is no longer a rookie. 
 

Diggs is generally considered a Top 10 WR. Brown is a Top 10 #2.  Cole Beasley is a very good slot.  
 

Knox is no longer a rookie at a position that usually takes time to transition.  
 

Singletary no longer a rookie, and we likely upgrade RB2 from what Gore gave us.  
 

Josh Allen - Year 3

 

WHAT DO YOU WANT!?!?

 

Heaven help me if you say Denzel friggin Mims...

 

I would taken Dobbins.  Scroll up.  Difference maker now.

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solid player - drop had to do with subpar combine where he ran 5.0+ 40 and only 17 bp - but looking at the edge taken before him his stats are just as good if not better and they didnt run or bp at the combine and or pro days canceled....was the top rated DE coming out of HS, one year starter yet his stats compare or better than those edge taken above him...athletic genes family is very good athletes including the ladies...one our existing DEs has to go; Trent and the cap savings or last year 7th rounder D Johnson...

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3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Who said he wasn’t athletic? Do I need to go through this thread and issue citations? 

Only the between-GM-jobs geniuses who recognize that 40 times are clearly the only metric that matter for 280 pound linemen who merely...ugh...produce result on the field.

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6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

The GM completely disagrees with you.  Why would I believe you over Beane?

If the GM disagreed with me he would have made sure he drafted a playmaker. But I assume you mean what has been said the past two months, and I know you are old enough to remember 1998 and know that GM lie more than truth telling once the season ends.

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3 minutes ago, SCBills said:


D was fantastic, but the DL was a bit lacking.   That was addressed this offseason. 
 

OL has a full year of continuity. Ford is no longer a rookie. 
 

Diggs is generally considered a Top 10 WR. Brown is a Top 10 #2.  Cole Beasley is a very good slot.  
 

Knox is no longer a rookie at a position that usually takes time to transition.  
 

Singletary no longer a rookie, and we likely upgrade RB2 from what Gore gave us.  
 

Josh Allen - Year 3

 

WHAT DO YOU WANT!?!?

 

Heaven help me if you say Denzel friggin Mims...

Allen to play better, Knox to catch the ball, and a disruptive pass rusher. Maybe that will be Oliver. 

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Just now, Buffalo Timmy said:

If the GM disagreed with me he would have made sure he drafted a playmaker. But I assume you mean what has been said the past two months, and I know you are old enough to remember 1998 and know that GM lie more than truth telling once the season ends.

 

 

Not sure what 1998 was, but everybody who watched the Bills knows their struggle to score is what limited their advancement.  This isn't even a bit difficult to understand.

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1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

I would taken Dobbins.  Scroll up.  Difference maker now.


I like Dobbins too, but we can get a way better RB now through tomorrow than we can an Epenesa-type DL talent. 

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2 minutes ago, Logic said:

Not athletic, my ass.

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He has decent agility for his position so I can see why he has some athleticism, but his poor 10 and 20 yard split times in slow 40 indicate a lack of explosion as does his poor bench performance. And that lack of explosion shows up in his game video as well.
 

I’m not gonna say he won’t be a contributor like Lawson in a rotation and I can even see him moving inside in obvious passing situations, but I don’t see an elite pass rusher off the edge at this time. He’s got decent hands though, so I’m hoping he can offset some of that lack of explosion with dominant hand work. 

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20 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Brown has been around for 6 years and barely hit 1000 yards twice. For a team's leading receiver, that's nothing these days.   Singletary had one 100 yard game over the last 8 games.

 

Ok...everyone is great.  Just because.

 

 

Yes, I made all of that up.  LOL

If you cant see that Smoke had an excellent season last year in Buffalo.....you are lost

 

If you cant see that Devin is a productive back.....you are lost

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