RyanC883 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) For fun, lets assume all 4 of these guys are available with our 2nd round pick. It's possible that none, or only one is available. These are top-level guys at our positions of greatest need. I'll do another poll with "2nd tier"/"more realistic" or whatever you want to call it options next week. But if all of these guys are around, and some mock drafts have them being available, who do you take and why. Let the fun begin! Edited March 28, 2020 by RyanC883 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Rhymes with Bobbins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 No way on mims, Cleveland maybe But he’s a project , the other 2 I am good with but lean toward Greenard that high 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 Just now, CommonCents said: Rhymes with Bobbins. ha, I had to debate between him and Taylor. Didn't want to split the RB vote, so i took the guy who is generally higher. But you'll see him in next weeks poll! Just now, YoloinOhio said: No way on mims, Cleveland maybe But he’s a project , the other 2 I am good with but lean toward Greenard that high Yolo, don't just comment, vote 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Chase Claypool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I voted Taylor because even though I liked what I saw from Greenard, I still feel like Taylor is the better prospect. I like Mims a lot, but I don’t think it would be prudent to take a WR in the 2nd with Diggs, Brown and Beasley even though Brown and Beasley are getting older. I don’t know that Cleveland is strong enough to see the field this year and you never know if he can get strong enough to succeed in run blocking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I voted for Mims. I don't think he's worth a 1st round choice like a lot of people seem to think, but he definitely has a ton of potential and would also bring size to the WR group that we don't have right now. I don't feel very strongly in either direction about Cleveland or Greenard. Taylor is a good prospect, but if Mims is actually on the board at 54, I would go with him and just get the RB later on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Cal said: Chase Claypool he's in next weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I picked Taylor. If Singletary misses any games this will be a great move. If he doesn’t miss games then we have a nice 1-2 punch for windy winter ground and pound in New Era. This combo will open things up for Diggs and Co. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Taylor hes a top 15 prospect and at 54 would be a steal 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Jonathan Taylor, no contest. He should be a first round pick but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Swift goes first. CEH and Dobbins are all worthy options as well. Hoping the run on RBs doesn’t start till RD2. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Taylor and Singletary would make a great tandem for the next 3 years and avoids the need to have one guy carry the load. Taylor does not get caught from behind. I think a few of Singletary's 20+ yard runs would have been 50+ from Taylor or some of these other RB candidates. Adding another explosive playmaker to the offense is a great idea, imo. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Between Taylor and Greenard. Taylor is higher on my board but I am so worried about our edge situation that I might reach down for Greenard. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 29 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: ha, I had to debate between him and Taylor. Didn't want to split the RB vote, so i took the guy who is generally higher. But you'll see him in next weeks poll! Yolo, don't just comment, vote I did vote 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Mims should not be in this poll, IMO. Maybe a S like Dugger? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I don’t think Mims has a chance to be there so I’ll eliminate him. I think the other 3 will be there and it’s a toss up between greenard and Taylor. Cleveland is tempting but he’s just rated lower on my board and needs lots of work. With Williams and nsekhe to go with Ford, I think the project OT can wait. I have Taylor graded higher than greenard. That being said, I can’t see greenard falling to our next pick and I’m not a fan of many edge rushers that might be there in rd 3. So I’d have to decide whether or not I’d be willing to trade up from our 3rd rd pick. If we aren’t going to trade up, I’d take Greenard and look to fill Singletarys compliment in rd 3-4. If we’re happy with our depth and want to consolidate picks, I’d take taylor and do my best to trade up for greenard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said: Taylor hes a top 15 prospect and at 54 would be a steal Agree, but does he last all the way to 54? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Mims should not be in this poll, IMO. Maybe a S like Dugger? Mims would be absurd if paired with Stefon Diggs, Brown and Beezer. It would be disgusting, sick and repulsive. How would teams stop that? It should be talked about. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 23 minutes ago, Cal said: Chase Claypool I think Michael Pittman is the better big bodied wr. Late 2nd seems a little high for his draft "value" but worry if he'd last until rd 3. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I would take Mims! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I did vote sorry, i couldn't see vote totals until I refreshed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 It’s Taylor. The biggest need is crystal clear. A RB. Rookie RBs have shown to be very productive these days so it shouldn’t be too much of a wait and see how this guy pans out in 2 or 3 years kind of pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 JT for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 45 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Between Taylor and Greenard. Taylor is higher on my board but I am so worried about our edge situation that I might reach down for Greenard. I can understand that rationale. Do you think that Greenard can become at least an average starting DE, not necessarily immediately? I liked what I saw in the games that I watched. How do you compare Greenard and Okwara? Okwara looked more athletic than I expected when I watched him. Toss up between those 2 as prospects for me, I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Choose Mims. He would become the 2nd best WR on the team. However, Taylor would become the best RB, slightly ahead of Devin. But a Running Back is easier to find than an extremely great talent in Mims. but it's close IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Taylor. Explosive, powerful and proven production over years in a power 5 conference. Kid is legit. I doubt he's there when the Bills pick. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Victory Formation said: Mims would be absurd if paired with Stefon Diggs, Brown and Beezer. It would be disgusting, sick and repulsive. How would teams stop that? It should be talked about. My point was not that I didn’t like him. My point was that there is no way in hell he makes it to 54. No shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said: I can understand that rationale. Do you think that Greenard can become at least an average starting DE, not necessarily immediately? I liked what I saw in the games that I watched. How do you compare Greenard and Okwara? Okwara looked more athletic than I expected when I watched him. Toss up between those 2 as prospects for me, I think. I have Greenard a fair bit above Okwara. I do think Okwara has more natural athleticism but he isn't as smart or as savvy as Greenard. Greenard csn play every darn position. He can rush from the left, from the right, from the interior, he can play hand in dirt, he can rush standing up, he can play gap discipline or he can just get upfield, he can drop.... I think he is as safe as a prospect as there is. If he had an ounce more of an explosive first step he'd be a slam dunk first rounder to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I'd like a draft beer, thank you very much. I can't get enough, of that wonderful....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Greenard can play every darn position. He can rush from the left, from the right, from the interior, he can play hand in dirt, he can rush standing up, he can play gap discipline or he can just get upfield, he can drop.... I think he is as safe as a prospect as there is. If he had an ounce more of an explosive first step he'd be a slam dunk first rounder to me. OK. I'm coming around on Greenard a bit more. I've been disappointed in this year's edge class, but the SI article below had a few things that are making me warm up to him: https://www.si.com/college/florida/football/florida-gators-jonathan-greenard-nfl-draft-combine 34.9" arms--the 13th-longest among edge rushers at the NFL Combine since 1999 7.13-second three-cone (66th percentile) and a 4.34-second 20 yard shuttle (75th percentile), good for second and third-best among defensive linemen at the Combine this year, respectively For comparison's sake, notable NFL pass rushers that finished between the 65th and 75th percentiles in at least one of the three-cone and 20-yard shuttle (at a similar size) include Chandler Jones of the Arizona Cardinals, Preston Smith of the Green Bay Packers, and Frank Clark of the Kansas City Chiefs. He appears to be rising up the boards and probably will go before #54. Any thoughts on how far the Bills would have to trade up in Round 2 to get him? Edit: he was scheduled for a visit to OBD before the COVID-19 shutdown: https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2020/3/16/21181053/2020-nfl-draft-buffalo-bills-reportedly-planned-to-meet-privately-with-jonathan-greenard Edit2: https://buffalonews.com/2020/03/11/buffalo-bills-nfl-draft-ross-blacklock-jonathan-greenard/ "The Buffalo Bills met with TCU defensive tackle Ross Blacklock and Florida edge rusher Jonathan Greenard at the NFL scouting combine and plan to spend additional time with both. Greenard has visits or private workouts scheduled with the Bills, New York Jets and Houston Texans, he told the Draft Wire. He also will meet the Titans at his Pro Day on March 31." Edited March 28, 2020 by Lurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: My point was not that I didn’t like him. My point was that there is no way in hell he makes it to 54. No shot. Did you think Metcalf would make it to the bottom of two last year? You know...since you know everything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Minnesota will take Mims with our pick. I'm fairly certain we're taking RB or DE. I don't understand Claypool as a 2nd rounder. He sure had a great combine, but his tape says rounds 3-4. I'd be pretty disppointed if we took him in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Went with the edge rusher. Don't like the fumble-prone RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, Lurker said: OK. I'm coming around on Greenard a bit more. I've been disappointed in this year's edge class, but the SI article below had a few things that are making me warm up to him: https://www.si.com/college/florida/football/florida-gators-jonathan-greenard-nfl-draft-combine 34.9" arms--the 13th-longest among edge rushers at the NFL Combine since 1999 7.13-second three-cone (66th percentile) and a 4.34-second 20 yard shuttle (75th percentile), good for second and third-best among defensive linemen at the Combine this year, respectively For comparison's sake, notable NFL pass rushers that finished between the 65th and 75th percentiles in at least one of the three-cone and 20-yard shuttle (at a similar size) include Chandler Jones of the Arizona Cardinals, Preston Smith of the Green Bay Packers, and Frank Clark of the Kansas City Chiefs. He appears to be rising up the boards and probably will go before #54. Any thoughts on how far the Bills would have to trade up in Round 2 to get him? Edit: he was scheduled for a visit to OBD before the COVID-19 shutdown: https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2020/3/16/21181053/2020-nfl-draft-buffalo-bills-reportedly-planned-to-meet-privately-with-jonathan-greenard Edit2: https://buffalonews.com/2020/03/11/buffalo-bills-nfl-draft-ross-blacklock-jonathan-greenard/ "The Buffalo Bills met with TCU defensive tackle Ross Blacklock and Florida edge rusher Jonathan Greenard at the NFL scouting combine and plan to spend additional time with both. Greenard has visits or private workouts scheduled with the Bills, New York Jets and Houston Texans, he told the Draft Wire. He also will meet the Titans at his Pro Day on March 31." @thebandit27 is even higher on him than me. I think he is a good 2nd round prospect and have him #38 on my board. Think Bandit has him higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I do not think Cleveland is a good fit in our gap scheme. He’s a zone scheme OT only IMO. A good case can be made for the other three. I took Taylor because I see him as the safest choice and the most substantial immediate contributor of the three remaining. I wouldn’t argue with any of those three though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I’m very happy with anyone one of those guys at #54. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Even though I don't think he'll be there, I voted Mims. If he's not available, Cam Akers over Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Taylor won't be there. If he is you sprint with his name to the podium (or skype or whatever they're doing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GVINCENT Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 If you really want Taylor you have t move up to the top of rd. 2, and the price is a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th...I say LET's GO...ALL IN... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 hour ago, whorlnut said: Did you think Metcalf would make it to the bottom of two last year? You know...since you know everything... I had an idea Metcalf was going to fall, yes. But that was just my opinion based on what I was seeing and hearing. Just like Mims. My opinion, based on what I am seeing and hearing, is that there is no way he makes it to 54. Probably doesn’t make it past Minnesota’s pick at 25, but could surprise and go much earlier. Therefore, I think including him as an option in the poll is unrealistic, and I think most would agree. Do you have a problem with me voicing my opinion? Do you know everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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