Starting to think there is no way they play football in 2020

[JaCrispy]

Summer olympics was just postponed til summer of 2021 and that was supposed to start right before the beginning of the NFL season...

 

It will be interesting to see how next years college players handle the draft...theoretically we could have 2 drafts before the next season is played...thoughts?

[PromoTheRobot]

Until there is a full stay-at-home lockdown they won't "flatten the curve." Meanwhile spring break is in full swing in South Florida.

[Rc2catch]

I don’t think there’s really enough info to speculate when it’s “safe” to resume public functions yet. I would imagine everything stays on hold for at least a couple more months still as more data is gathered and other countries battle through this and recover. 

[DrDawkinstein]

Olympics are postponed because athletes are unable to train RIGHT NOW. And they can't just push it back a couple of months, they have to skip to next summer.

 

Luckily, the NFL still has a couple of months before any regular training activities are set to start. I think they'll be able to stay mostly on schedule.

 

Side note: Now that I think about it, one of the best ways they could get all the dummies to start taking this seriously and just stay inside for the next 2 weeks, would be to announce "If the public doesnt get this contained soon, we risk having no football this fall". Maybe that would wake them up.

 

 

Edited March 24, 2020 by DrDawkinstein

[thenorthremembers]

Right now I think mini camps will be cancelled.   However, I cant see this going into July and August.   Maybe a modified season, but I think football still happens.

[Greg S]

Mini-camp, OTA's, rookie camp are probably done but if they can get training camp in July then they should have a full season. It will definitely be a challenge for coaching staffs to get rookies/ FA joining a new team up to speed in learning the playbook with so much time missed on the practice field.

[thunderingsquid]

14 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

I don’t think there’s really enough info to speculate when it’s “safe” to resume public functions yet. I would imagine everything stays on hold for at least a couple more months still as more data is gathered and other countries battle through this and recover. 

Other countries... like Florida

[DFT]

I’m pretty hopeful, but that’s probably just the “optimism amidst downtime”, talking.  The good thing is that even though things are pretty much at a standstill, the NFL is still working through their options and are making really strong decisions.  With the exception of Sean P and his affinity for ordering cheesesteaks during quarantine.  

 

But seriously, for as much grief as Goodell gets (and some deservedly), he’s a “war-time” commissioner who’s motivated by money and profitability.  If there’s a way to make the year happen in a worst-case scenario, my money’s on him getting it done.   

Edited March 24, 2020 by DFT

[uticaclub]

If this doesn’t end next week, football is going to be the least of anyones concern

[thunderingsquid]

If we do see football in September, it will be sloppy as hell.  Like Thursday night football every game.

[Strethor]

Neutral location or smaller venue games are possible by Sepember in my opinion. 

[ExWNYer]

5 minutes ago, thunderingsquid said:

If we do see football in September, it will be sloppy as hell.  Like Thursday night football every game.

 

Another possibility could be a higher number of injuries than usual.

[BuffaloRebound]

Moving the Olympics to 2021 basically  costs no money.  There’s too much money on the line if the NFL cancels their season.  Unless Corona virus rate of death never flattens out, there will be football this year.  If it doesn’t flatten out here, then we’ll all be dead anyway.  

[Franco_92]

13 minutes ago, DFT said:

I’m pretty hopeful, but that’s probably just the “optimism amidst downtime”, talking.  The good thing is that even though things are pretty much at a standstill, the NFL is still working through their options and are making really strong decisions.  With the exception of Sean P and his affinity for ordering cheesesteaks during quarantine.  

 

But seriously, for as much grief as Goodell gets (and some deservedly), he’s a “war-time” commissioner who’s motivated by money and profitability.  If there’s a way to make the year happen in a worst-case scenario, my money’s on him getting it done.   

I don't think you're being an optimist. I think people sitting in quarantine and watching numbers climb lose sight of how far away we are from needing to make these decisions, and how much time it has taken other places' cases to peak. It's certainly true that a spanish flu when we were barely into the "germ theory" era lasted a long time in waves, but that doesn't mean that this one will play out exactly the same a hundred years later 

There will probably be unique circumstances to this season in one way or another, but I'd bet on it happening. 

[zonabb]

27 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

I don’t think there’s really enough info to speculate when it’s “safe” to resume public functions yet. I would imagine everything stays on hold for at least a couple more months still as more data is gathered and other countries battle through this and recover. 

Sure there is, you just have to a) believe in science and b) agree to aggressive measures to make a valid prediction. We have leadership that refuses both. Wuhan locked the city right down on January 23-ish and just announced yesterday that the lockdown will end April 8. They quickly built hospitals, set up food delivery, and were successful. We've done none of that. So let's call March 13 the beginning of the measures taken here, which are not the same measures in Wuhan. If we had adopted such measures, that would mean about a June 1 re-opening of life in some fashion. Instead, were seeing an infection increase rates worse than China, a president now looking to roll back measures on Monday as he puts the economy and the profit of himself and his donors over our family and friends lives, and a certain continuing of the problem, not a reduction.

 

Bet you any money the number of Erie County cases at the end of today is about 150 or more, up from 96 yesterday. 

[H2o]

One thing this will be a tell-tale sign of is how players truly train when left on their own in the offseason. How many guys will keep themselves in proper physical condition? I'd expect a large spike in injuries this year in general if they do play due to the fact players haven't been training at their facilities. As of right now though I am fully expecting no football, college or professional, until 2021. 

[Gordio]

10 minutes ago, zonabb said:

Sure there is, you just have to a) believe in science and b) agree to aggressive measures to make a valid prediction. We have leadership that refuses both. Wuhan locked the city right down on January 23-ish and just announced yesterday that the lockdown will end April 8. They quickly built hospitals, set up food delivery, and were successful. We've done none of that. So let's call March 13 the beginning of the measures taken here, which are not the same measures in Wuhan. If we had adopted such measures, that would mean about a June 1 re-opening of life in some fashion. Instead, were seeing an infection increase rates worse than China, a president now looking to roll back measures on Monday as he puts the economy and the profit of himself and his donors over our family and friends lives, and a certain continuing of the problem, not a reduction.

 

Bet you any money the number of Erie County cases at the end of today is about 150 or more, up from 96 yesterday. 

 

 

Of course it is going to be higher, they are testing more.  It only makes sense.  

[PetermansRedemption]

1 minute ago, Gordio said:

 

 

Of course it is going to be higher, they are testing more.  It only makes sense.  

What I’m concerned about is the death rate. As long as we keep the death rate around that 1% mark this is a successful result. The only country that has been able to keep it that low is South Korea. China was around 3.5, Italy is around 9.5. Spain around 6.7. Iran is 7.7. Keep our number as low as the model of response so far (South Korea).

[No_Matter_What]

There is a huge difference between Olympics and NFL imo. Olympics had to be postponed since they need qualifications and trainings of athletes which cannot happen now and will not happen couple of next months. You also need athletes from all over the world to gather and participate. Same goes for fans.

 

NFL is entirely different. It is US thing only, so in only depends on how US handles the virus. I have no idea how it works in reality, but I guess you can have almost normal season when some training camps are postponed and situation gets better in June or even July. You can also adopt some measures to prevent risks - play without fans, or limit fans to 1/3 of stadium capacity or something like that.

 

I am quite sceptical about the virus itself, but NFL starts in September and there should be enough time for things to get better until then. 

[Captain Hindsight]

37 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Right now I think mini camps will be cancelled.   However, I cant see this going into July and August.   Maybe a modified season, but I think football still happens.

I think it depends on how seriously people take the shelter in place. I haven't gone out into public in over a week. We should have plenty of supplies (beer) until next Monday when I'll have to go out again. If the whole country just did that I think we'd be able to get over this quicker.

 

This sucks, I get it. I Half my company got furloughed. I got my salary cut 20%  I want to just go somewhere and walk around, get something to eat. But every time I read about whats happening in Italy, I get worried about here. I had bronchitis last year, i only have one kidney. My SIL has asthma. My mom has a compromised immune system. My FIL is a smoker. I think all of them could be at bigger risk for something like this.

 

If me staying home for a month saves 10 lives, I think i can deal. It sucks, but I think the alternative is FAR worse

[Like A Mofo]

38 minutes ago, Damian said:

So far over 90% of infections happen in the temperature range of 37 to 63 degrees F.  

Could be why most of SE Asia has been relatively spared so far.  

Hopefully warmer weather will bring the infections down.

 

I was thinking this too and I then read where hot temps do not stop the spread. I think SE Asia has been spared due to the lack of testing more then anything else.

I don't see an NFL season in 2020 either.

[Captain Hindsight]

28 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Moving the Olympics to 2021 basically  costs no money.  There’s too much money on the line if the NFL cancels their season.  Unless Corona virus rate of death never flattens out, there will be football this year.  If it doesn’t flatten out here, then we’ll all be dead anyway.  

March madness brings in 1 Billion and they cancelled that. Don't assume the all mighty dollar beats public health

[Nester]

The season is gone. A 1 year layoff will dramatically change the landscape of the nfl

 

players will be out of shape

some will age out (will Tom Brady ever play for the bucs)

stars today will no longer be stars due to age and conditioning. 
 

2 years of prospects entering the league at once? Yikes on a 55 man roster for vets

 

what happens with NFL players not getting paid for a year? Do they really live paycheck to paycheck like ESPN 30 for 30 days?

 

how many will be forced to leave football forever?
 

How many will make bad life choices with no income ?

 

 

a year off football changes everything.

 

hope I am wrong

 

 

[Talley56]

Hard to say.  The info I'm hearing ranges from "this is all being over-hyped and we'll be back to normal in the next month or so" to "we're all doomed and this is the beginning of the downfall of society".  I just hope the NFL has people's health and safety in mind more than revenue when they make their decisions.

[Franco_92]

Just now, Nester said:

The season is gone. A 1 year layoff will dramatically change the landscape of the nfl

 

players will be out of shape

some will age out (will Tom Brady ever play for the bucs)

stars today will no longer be stars due to age and conditioning. 
 

2 years of prospects entering the league at once? Yikes on a 55 man roster for vets

 

what happens with NFL players not getting paid for a year? Do they really live paycheck to paycheck like ESPN 30 for 30 days?

 

how many will be forced to leave football forever?
 

How many will make bad life choices with no income ?

 

 

a year off football changes everything.

 

hope I am wrong

 

 

Don't worry, you are.

[Success]

I thought that a few days ago, but just a week+ into the lockdown, and you can tell the economic impact is too much to handle.  Trump is already pushing to get things back to "normal," and they won't keep a business like the NFL on hold.

 

I foresee something like trying to keep at-risk groups quarantined as much as possible, but letting others get back to work, maybe in a staggered way.  I think the season will be on.

 

[WhoTom]

17 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

If me staying home for a month saves 10 lives, I think i can deal. It sucks, but I think the alternative is FAR worse

 

Our parents and grandparents were called to a world war.

We're being asked to Netflix and chill.

Perspective.

 

 

[pkwwjd]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Until there is a full stay-at-home lockdown they won't "flatten the curve." Meanwhile spring break is in full swing in South Florida.

not true, beaches are closed and patrolled by police. Drawbridges to barrier islands are closed to residents and workers only

[Success]

Let's say the season does get canceled.

 

Does anyone know what they would do about draft order in 2021?  Would they just keep it the same as '20?

 

[Captain Hindsight]

1 minute ago, WhoTom said:

 

Our parents and grandparents were called to a world war.

We're being asked to Netflix and chill.

Perspective.

 

 

Exactly. Be a hero. Rock some sweatpants

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Exactly. Be a hero. Rock some sweatpants

 

 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

I choose to believe we are going to be fine. 

[T master]

This virus is a lot bigger than sports in general & i give props to all those nurses & Dr's on the front lines all over the world fighting this thing away from their family's & also those athletes that give back to help out like Mitch Morse & others .

 

 Zion Williamson drafted by the Pelicans is going to pay for all the workers at the venue where they play until this is figured out . That's a huge at a boy for a rookie to step up like that ! 

 

It will take a ton of data to figure out how we go forward but there will be those that don't heed what they are being told to do & stay home ( you can't fix stupid) i have been home for the most part since this has started i have been out once for some groceries & have little to no contact with others & will do that until i need to .

 

I would think that the NFL along with most of the other players in major league sports should be much better prepared monetarily than most of us & maybe this will humble some of those that need it to realize they are more human than they thought & that this virus doesn't discriminate just because you make a lot of money .

 

I pray that things get back to the new normal soon & i hope all Bills & all sports fans stay safe & healthy until a cure or at least a treatment is found but until that is done the Olympics, NFL, MLB, NBA & most other sports will be played on video of seasons past until there is a fix .

 

 

[jrober38]

The NFL season might happen, but I think it will be in empty stadiums. 

Social distancing guidelines will likely remain in place through the end of the year. 

 

Letting 60,000 into a stadium together seems like something that won't be happening anytime soon. 

[billsintaiwan]

Here in Taiwan, the baseball season has been delayed a bit but should start relatively soon. The newer cases here have been caught at the airport or during mandatory quarantine. There have been a few cases they can't account for and a couple people have broken quarantine, but so far so good.

 

You guys are way behind in every way. Big hope is that it passes seasonally, but there isn't much evidence for that. 

 

I scout for the royals and only the most optimistic of the optimists think MLB can start anytime before June. Likely in front of empty stadiums.

[Nester]

1 minute ago, jrober38 said:

The NFL season might happen, but I think it will be in empty stadiums. 

Social distancing guidelines will likely remain in place through the end of the year. 

 

Letting 60,000 into a stadium together seems like something that won't be happening anytime soon. 

no chance nflpa allows that huge risk to the players if social distancing is still required.

[jrober38]

Just now, Nester said:

no chance nflpa allows that huge risk to the players if social distancing is still required.

 

I agree.

 

I'm just saying if it does happen it'll be behind closed doors. 

 

I don't think the 2020 season is going to materialize. 

[jrober38]

2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Yeah. You realize that more than half of Americans work for small businesses, yes? Those businesses will not survive a month or more of lockdown.

 

 

Yes they will.

 

Lock things down for 30 days, and cover those businesses expenses. If that means spending trillions of dollars, then spend trillions of dollars. 

 

Prolonging things is the route that can't be taken. That's the one that results in economic ruin. 

 

We need to follow China's model. 

Edited March 24, 2020 by jrober38

[jrober38]

3 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

Dictatorship,  human rights violations and censorship?  Thanks but I’ll pass. 

 

Holy hyperbole. 

 

Asking people to stay home for 30 days means dictatorship, human rights violations and "censorship?"

 

I see it as the only way to save the economy.

China reopened Wuhan today. That could be America if you follow that model.

 

Shut everything down, don't collect mortgage payments, don't collect utility payments, don't collect rent. Just stay home, and then in 30 days you can reopen everything after you fully quarantine everyone who is sick.

 

Prolonging thing will only decimate consumer confidence and wreck the service and hospitality industries, the airline industries and contract GDP. Then other companies will begin laying people off, and the whole thing will snowball. 

Edited March 24, 2020 by jrober38

[RochesterRob]

1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said:

I cannot see the world still being stopped even one month from now, nevertheless six months. There’s more to this than simply staying home. I’ve covered it in other threads, but people cannot afford to have a prolonged lockdown. Most Americans don’t even have $400 saved in their bank account. You think they are just going to sit and home and starve? You will see extreme unrest if this goes on for any prolonged period of time. You already see defiant people, that number will only grow. You are getting compliance currently because it is novel and new. As the numbers continue and people see that 99.4%+ survival rate for those under 50 without an existing condition, their families livelihood and ability to feed their family will become far more important. The only way you buy continued compliance is if the government passes an unemployment plan that replaces 100% of wages. Without that, people will do whatever it takes to survive. Even if you have money saved up, put yourself in the position of someone who doesn’t. You have no money left in the bank, the credit cards are maxed, you can’t buy any food for your family. You have the option to get a different job and go out into the world. Your going to do it. 
 

I have gotten a little off track. But this all relates to the NFL because if the world starts restarting the NFL will certainly restart. The majority of revenue from the NFL comes from TV contracts anyways. Playing to empty stadiums, or extremely socially distanced stadiums, won’t make much of a difference to their bottom line.

  For a lot of people it will not be as simple as returning to their job.  First, they need to see if there is a job to go back to.  If you work at Del Lago for instance the place is closed per the governor's orders.  Even if a place is open if the opportunity is not there for you to be productive odds are you will not be allowed to put hours in to draw a paycheck.  When people are having to make hard choices with the funds they do have they may elect putting off getting tires replaced or having the propane heating tank filled.  Less work for the people at the auto service center or heating propane supplier.  There is going to be real economic pain for quite a number of people.