DJB Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Can we update the title to include the $$$ figure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 26 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: compared to what Quinn got; I'm kinda okay with it Absolutely, and the way it is structured (Addison) it makes it more palatable. Addison to me is an upgrade to Shaq, but that is a big figure for his age. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) I'm amazed that people think 10 per for a DE who has 40 sacks in his last 4 seasons is an overpay. You know that he has more sacks than Ngakoue who is asking for 22 right? He isn't a guy who is often injured, knows McD scheme. Very strong run defender. What are people expecting here? Edited March 17, 2020 by Seoulofstone 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said: I fully expect Beane to draft a DE no later than 3rd round this year Id be shocked if Trent Murphy is on this roster. Hughes and Addison should give us 2 years of good production at the DE spot before they potentially move on/retire. We have Darryl Johnson, and I think we may be targeting Alton Robinson or Jabari Zuniga in the 3rd. Edited March 17, 2020 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Bears $5yrs $70M $30Mgtd Wow- I thought Quinn would get 3 years at 15 per year- though maybe that is what it turns into 4 minutes ago, Seoulofstone said: I'm amazed that people think 10 per for a DE who has 40 sacks in his last 4 seasons is an overpay. You know that he has more sacks than Ngakoue who is asking for 22 right? He isn't a guy who is often injured, knows McD scheme. Very strong run defender. What are people expecting here? In a Mc Beane defense the lineman are not the stars- the LBs are the stars and therefore we will not likely have any dominant players along the line but have great LBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Seoulofstone Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: In a Mc Beane defense the lineman are not the stars- the LBs are the stars and therefore we will not likely have any dominant players along the line but have great LBs. Not sure I agree though he clearly loves his LBs His Superbowl defense featured Addison and Short as sack monsters and was among the sack leaders as a team. An effective pass rush is surely a preference. It makes everything easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, Seoulofstone said: I'm amazed that people think 10 per for a DE who has 40 sacks in his last 4 seasons is an overpay. You know that he has more sacks than Ngakoue who is asking for 22 right? He isn't a guy who is often injured, knows McD scheme. Very strong run defender. What are people expecting here? The contract is fair and correct. What concerns me is realistically because of him turning 33 in sept. we're probably only looking at 2 good years. I can see him and Jerry retiring together. We better start drafting some edge guys. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, LABILLBACKER said: The contract is fair and correct. What concerns me is realistically because of him turning 33 in sept. we're probably only looking at 2 good years. I can see him and Jerry retiring together. We better start drafting some edge guys. Truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: What are you basing this off? Less guaranteed money and front loaded to allow the Bills to get out after a season if needed. The Bills could revamp their entire DE position after this year with very little dead cap hit. Spotrac has only 4 million in Dead Money in 2021 and 2 million in 2022. Good contract for Bills and Mario. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/mario-addison-8871/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Spotrac has only 4 million in Dead Money in 2021 and 2 million in 2022. Good contract for Bills and Mario. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/mario-addison-8871/ It’s basically a one year deal in a three year deals clothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: It’s basically a one year deal in a three year deals clothing. Pretty much. Gives Beane flexibility on how the DE draft goes this year and next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 7 hours ago, thebandit27 said: He’s good enough to not be a liability. hes more consistent than Shaq... and can play more snaps. Fits scheme played for McD D line coach is his old one where he had success. Its a safe signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, CardinalScotts said: hes more consistent than Shaq... and can play more snaps. Fits scheme played for McD D line coach is his old one where he had success. Its a safe signing Yeah I’ve been promoting him for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 My gosh people! Mario isn't 60 years old. I'm willing to trust the front office and coaching staff on this one. Shaq was mostly invisible for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Pretty much every snap I’ve seen Addison play in the nfl, he lined up on the right side. Jerry’s side. I hope one of them is equally talented rushing from the left 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill963 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Seoulofstone said: Not sure I agree though he clearly loves his LBs His Superbowl defense featured Addison and Short as sack monsters and was among the sack leaders as a team. An effective pass rush is surely a preference. It makes everything easier. McDermott should try to get kuechly to I retire lol. Would be awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 42 minutes ago, BuffaloBill963 said: McDermott should try to get kuechly to I retire lol. Would be awesome It's fun to imagine, but Kuechly has been a pale shadow of what he was the past two years. He can still read what the offense is doing better than anyone in the game, but, noticeably slower and shy of contact since the concussions Its best for everyone that he's done 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Pretty much every snap I’ve seen Addison play in the nfl, he lined up on the right side. Jerry’s side. I hope one of them is equally talented rushing from the left Yeah I mentioned that earlier as well. Someone else theorized that Jerry would move to the left side since hes done it before and can really get after the RT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Would now like to see a rookie drafted to pair with Hughes and Addison. Succession planning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, In Summary said: Would now like to see a rookie drafted to pair with Hughes and Addison. Succession planning. Only if bpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Agree. No need to reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 5 hours ago, SCBills said: Id be shocked if Trent Murphy is on this roster. Hughes and Addison should give us 2 years of good production at the DE spot before they potentially move on/retire. We have Darryl Johnson, and I think we may be targeting Alton Robinson or Jabari Zuniga in the 3rd. I think Murphy stays and a round 2 or 3 pick is brought on board. They signed Murphy to a big deal and as much as I think he hasn't lived up to it, the deal they signed him to must be a sign that they like him as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 37 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I think Murphy stays and a round 2 or 3 pick is brought on board. They signed Murphy to a big deal and as much as I think he hasn't lived up to it, the deal they signed him to must be a sign that they like him as a player. Perhaps, I like the flexibility they have where they don’t have to cut him, but also don’t need to keep him. Cutting him could free up the money needed for another splash signing, i.e. Melvin Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Perhaps, I like the flexibility they have where they don’t have to cut him, but also don’t need to keep him. Cutting him could free up the money needed for another splash signing, i.e. Melvin Gordon Big time pass on Melvin Gordon, but yes if they feel there is another big time free agent that they might want to free up some money for I could see them cutting Murphy. But given McD's weird loyalty to vets he signs I wouldn't be on it. They have about 10-20 million to work with while still having enough for rookie deals and 20-30 million in roll over. At this point unless they really want a big fish they will likely just stick with Murphy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thebandit27 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, DJB said: Yeah I mentioned that earlier as well. Someone else theorized that Jerry would move to the left side since hes done it before and can really get after the RT They're both going to move around. Between these 2 and Edmunds, you have 3 guys that can all play out of a 2/3/4-point stance and make coverage drops. It’s going to be quite difficult to both diagnose who’s coming and then execute the blocking. Mix in some creative blitzes and one of the best secondaries in the game and it’s no wonder why this defense is being talked about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: They're both going to move around. Between these 2 and Edmunds, you have 3 guys that can all play out of a 2/3/4-point stance and make coverage drops. It’s going to be quite difficult to both diagnose who’s coming and then execute the blocking. Mix in some creative blitzes and one of the best secondaries in the game and it’s no wonder why this defense is being talked about. No question. I think it's time to take the training wheels off of the defence and get a little more creative especially up front. Your suggestions are great examples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Still think they need to add another veteran DT to the mix... DJ Reader says hello. Stuff that runs. Do it Beanes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, 3rdand12 said: DJ Reader says hello. Stuff that runs. Do it Beanes Reader signed with Cincy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Love the production but it’s amazing how quickly guys can fall off once they hit their 30s. See Mario Williams. That said, besides Star and Murphy, I don’t have much to question on their defensive moves. Still would like another pass rusher in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Love the production but it’s amazing how quickly guys can fall off once they hit their 30s. See Mario Williams. That said, besides Star and Murphy, I don’t have much to question on their defensive moves. Still would like another pass rusher in the draft. If they wanna dump him after this year, they can save a boatload of real cash, and a penalty of only $4m. They did ok with Zo with his age, so I'm guessing they feel MA has plenty in the tank. They know this guy well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 45 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Still think they need to add another veteran DT to the mix... I’ll be shocked if they don’t. There are a good number out there that would be great fits: Christian Covington Michael Pierce Beau Allen Shelby Harris Jarran Reed Austin Johnson Sly Williams 10 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Love the production but it’s amazing how quickly guys can fall off once they hit their 30s. See Mario Williams. That said, besides Star and Murphy, I don’t have much to question on their defensive moves. Still would like another pass rusher in the draft. Did I mention that he missed only 1 tackle in 2019? That’s seriously my favorite stat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: I’ll be shocked if they don’t. There are a good number out there that would be great fits: Christian Covington Michael Pierce Beau Allen Shelby Harris Jarran Reed Austin Johnson Sly Williams Did I mention that he missed only 1 tackle in 2019? That’s seriously my favorite stat That is a great stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
below Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 8 hours ago, SCBills said: Id be shocked if Trent Murphy is on this roster. Hughes and Addison should give us 2 years of good production at the DE spot before they potentially move on/retire. We have Darryl Johnson, and I think we may be targeting Alton Robinson or Jabari Zuniga in the 3rd. What's the point of cutting Murphy? A rookie or Daryl Johnson is going to play all his snaps? Or are you counting on Addison to replace both Shaq AND Murphy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, below said: What's the point of cutting Murphy? A rookie or Daryl Johnson is going to play all his snaps? Or are you counting on Addison to replace both Shaq AND Murphy? I currently have a hard on for Alton Robinson or Jabari Zuniga in the 3rd, so, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty98 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, SCBills said: I currently have a hard on for Alton Robinson or Jabari Zuniga in the 3rd, so, sure. I think with Alton Robinson's past transgressions he won't be high on our Draft board. I really like Jon Garvin in the 4th or 5th, but next year Miami has two first round DE's coming out. Greg Rousseau, and grad transfer Quincy Roche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Looking at CB in the second unless dynamite value presents itself. Edge is weak on this roster. RB Safety need depth OT-Developmental Prospect Punter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I’d imagine Trent Murphy will be getting released very shortly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 23 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: 32 years old? Apparently according to Panther fans he ages like fine whine. Look at the comments, everyone agrees. Wow , he was beloved in Car. We got a potential great DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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