How do Bills' past moves foretell the WR pick?

[GG]

Now that the mock season is in full swing, I'm trying to figure out how Bills will approach the WR position based on what they've done in last 3 years and also guessing on what type of WR is preferred by the offensive design and most importantly the comfort level of the QB.     I don't think you can separate the last two from the decision making, and that can make a huge difference in the draft selection, even though one player may have better measurables.  It's almost like deciding on a quality 4-3 DE to play in a 3-4 alignment.

 

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In the first year, the regime prioritized size over speed in filling out the WR roster, starting with the ill-fated Boldin signing, adding Holmes & Tate, drafting Zay and trading for Matthews.  The midseason trade for Benjamin and the Logan Thomas experiment solidified the emphasis on size.  Of course by then, everyone realized that lack of speed was killing the offense, and thus the late season pick up of Deontae Thompson.   Part of the offensive mismatch was due to the ill fit between Dennison and the rest of the offense, but the personnel were ill-suited to execute the game plan, whatever it was.

 

Next offseason with a new OC and a raw QB, Bills tried to upgrade the WR speed, but couldn't land anyone notable in FA because of the uncertain QB situation.  The additions of Foster & McKenzie helped stretch the field, but they were still average playmakers.  It's also a tough year to analyze given the revolving door at QB, yet Zay & Benjamin had the most targets on the team.

 

In 2019, speed and elusiveness was prioritized with Beasley and Brown additions, and the offense picked up a step, with those two picking up far more receiving targets than what Bills QB threw to a pair of WRs in prior 2 seasons.  Yet the O was still ranked near the bottom.   

 

So a quick glance at the above would suggest that Bills would continue to prioritize speed in FA and draft.   But maybe not.

 

If we take a look at rumors around 2019 trade deadline, Bills appeared to be in the market for Green, but no so much for Sanders.  Then came the Olsen courting last week.  Another hint was provided by the number of targets Duke received in the handful games he played.  He didn't see a lot of snaps vs Titans, but received nearly as much looks as Brown & Beasley.  In the last two games however, he was by far and away the leading target from the QB.  The Jets game was probably an anomaly because Brown & Beasley sat, but it could have been a precursor for the playoffs in getting a bigger receiver more involved.

 

Long story short, my hunch is that the Bills FO is still looking to prioritize size over pure speed, because they think it's a better fit for the QB and the offense.

[Don Otreply]

Imo, having a mix of receiver types is best,  it gives the offense more versatility when game planning opponents, and opponents have more to be concerned with when playing you. 

 

Go Bills!!!

Edited February 28, 2020 by Don Otreply

[Logic]

19 minutes ago, GG said:

Now that the mock season is in full swing, I'm trying to figure out how Bills will approach the WR position based on what they've done in last 3 years and also guessing on what type of WR is preferred by the offensive design and most importantly the comfort level of the QB.     I don't think you can separate the last two from the decision making, and that can make a huge difference in the draft selection, even though one player may have better measurables.  It's almost like deciding on a quality 4-3 DE to play in a 3-4 alignment.

 

--

 

In the first year, the regime prioritized size over speed in filling out the WR roster, starting with the ill-fated Boldin signing, adding Holmes & Tate, drafting Zay and trading for Matthews.  The midseason trade for Benjamin and the Logan Thomas experiment solidified the emphasis on size.  Of course by then, everyone realized that lack of speed was killing the offense, and thus the late season pick up of Deontae Thompson.   Part of the offensive mismatch was due to the ill fit between Dennison and the rest of the offense, but the personnel were ill-suited to execute the game plan, whatever it was.

 

Next offseason with a new OC and a raw QB, Bills tried to upgrade the WR speed, but couldn't land anyone notable in FA because of the uncertain QB situation.  The additions of Foster & McKenzie helped stretch the field, but they were still average playmakers.  It's also a tough year to analyze given the revolving door at QB, yet Zay & Benjamin had the most targets on the team.

 

In 2019, speed and elusiveness was prioritized with Beasley and Brown additions, and the offense picked up a step, with those two picking up far more receiving targets than what Bills QB threw to a pair of WRs in prior 2 seasons.  Yet the O was still ranked near the bottom.   

 

So a quick glance at the above would suggest that Bills would continue to prioritize speed in FA and draft.   But maybe not.

 

If we take a look at rumors around 2019 trade deadline, Bills appeared to be in the market for Green, but no so much for Sanders.  Then came the Olsen courting last week.  Another hint was provided by the number of targets Duke received in the handful games he played.  He didn't see a lot of snaps vs Titans, but received nearly as much looks as Brown & Beasley.  In the last two games however, he was by far and away the leading target from the QB.  The Jets game was probably an anomaly because Brown & Beasley sat, but it could have been a precursor for the playoffs in getting a bigger receiver more involved.

 

Long story short, my hunch is that the Bills FO is still looking to prioritize size over pure speed, because they think it's a better fit for the QB and the offense.

Good post.

Matt Miller's "team by team draft nuggets" article today -- though it seemed to be possibly little more than speculation -- did note that Miller has heard that the Bills are in on "big guys" like Bryan Edwards and Donovan Peoples-Jones. They've also spoken with Chase Claypool. Then again, they've talked to just about EVERY WR at the combine, so take everything with a grain of salt.

At the end of the day, I expect them to come out of the draft with two wide receivers: a "size guy" as well as a burner or a McKenzie-style gadget player.

Edited February 28, 2020 by Logic

[Lurker]

I think they want more speed and explosiveness:

 

 

https://buffalonews.com/2020/02/25/brandon-beane-buffalo-bills-wide-receivers-nfl-draft-combine-analysis-edge-rushers/

 

Beane acknowledged the need for more big plays.

 

“John Brown probably gave us our most explosive plays, and Dawson had a couple explosive plays, and Devin had a few,” Beane said, referring to Dawson Knox and Devin Singletary. “We didn’t have enough explosive plays. The less explosive plays, the more 10-, 12-play drives you’ve got to have. What makes those hard is one penalty sets you back. All of a sudden you get a holding and you’re in second and 20 it becomes hard to get a first down. That’s where you saw the Chiefs have a Tyreek Hill, and he takes it to the house in one play. You’re always looking for explosive guys.”

[thebandit27]

Think of it this way...

 

On Buffalo’s offense, who do you look at and say “boy, if I don’t commit a significant portion of my game plan to stopping [       ], he’s going to kill me”?

 

The only answer is Allen.

 

Good offenses have multiple guys that you say that about.

 

The Bills don’t need a size guy, speed guy, etc; they need multiple players that opponents have to make specific, concerted efforts to stop every time they’re in the field.

[Jerry Jabber]

33 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

Think of it this way...

 

On Buffalo’s offense, who do you look at and say “boy, if I don’t commit a significant portion of my game plan to stopping [       ], he’s going to kill me”?

 

The only answer is Allen.

 

Good offenses have multiple guys that you say that about.

 

The Bills don’t need a size guy, speed guy, etc; they need multiple players that opponents have to make specific, concerted efforts to stop every time they’re in the field.

Exactly! The Chiefs were the perfect example of this.

[thebandit27]

8 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said:

Exactly! The Chiefs were the perfect example of this.

Chiefs have Hill, Kelce, Watkins, and Williams in addition to Mahomes.

 

You can say the same for teams like New Orleans, Minnesota, Seattle, LA Rams, Dallas, even Baltimore with Ingram and their 3-headed TE attack. All of them have multiple weapons that defenses need to account for aside from their QB.

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, GG said:

Long story short, my hunch is that the Bills FO is still looking to prioritize size over pure speed, because they think it's a better fit for the QB and the offense.

I wish we could have both like a 6'4 229 lbs. WR who runs something like a 4.33 40 yard dash.  It would be even better if we could steal that said player in the 2nd round.

[Tenhigh]

20 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I wish we could have both like a 6'4 229 lbs. WR who runs something like a 4.33 40 yard dash.  It would be even better if we could steal that said player in the 2nd round.

So you're talking about the Aaron Judge of football? You know, he WAS a 5 star football recruit out of HS.  

[Doc Brown]

13 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

So you're talking about the Aaron Judge of football? You know, he WAS a 5 star football recruit out of HS.  

DK Metcalf

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, thebandit27 said:

Think of it this way...

 

On Buffalo’s offense, who do you look at and say “boy, if I don’t commit a significant portion of my game plan to stopping [       ], he’s going to kill me”?

 

The only answer is Allen.

 

Good offenses have multiple guys that you say that about.

 

The Bills don’t need a size guy, speed guy, etc; they need multiple players that opponents have to make specific, concerted efforts to stop every time they’re in the field.

Lee Smith but the Bills are the ones saying “he’s gonna kill me” 

21 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

DK Metcalf

I think He plays for Seattle. Do you have another option? 

[DJB]

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bills-gm-brandon-beane-falcons-gm-thomas-dimitroff-join-stf/id1227006689?i=1000463331888

 

Some great stuff in there on the draft by Beane

 

Starts just after 37:00 minutes. 

 

Spent money on oline and drafted Ford, brought in some WR and TE to help Josh, what else is next to help him?

- "Josh needed protection, running the ball is a QB best friend ,  if you aren't good up front it's hard to execute .  We want to continue to help up front. Not saying we've arrived there, we need to continue to add weapons. Singletary  came on this year but you always need multiple running backs. 

 

Receivers, tight ends, I like to call them touchdown makers, guys that can get the ball in their hands, to take the pressure off Josh, so he doesn't feel like he has to make every play himself, let me dump this little 6 yard hitch route, have the WR make the guy miss and take it 50"

 

Some people say potential  historical  WR class, your thoughts on depth?

- " You can tell already  now that everyone has declared  , this class coming into the Senior Bowl  is pretty talented. Senior bowl is great so you can focus on them, then at combine undeclassmen  show up .  WR is a fun position to go through this spring. "

 

You've been aggressive  to move up for guys, is that your MO as a GM? 

- " Definitely ,  I let the board tell me what decisions we need to make and if a guy is sticking out above everybody  else on the board and continues to fall, with Edwards ,  if we had not got josh, Edwards would have been the guy we took at 12. When he got to 14 Packers were on the clock, man we got to start calling  , Oakland wouldn't do it they had already traded down and wanted to pick at 15 , then we found Baltimore who was willing to do it. We felt the value was there. So when the value meets a big hole that you got, why not be aggressive ". 

 

 

 

The WR that fit that mold best are Jeudy,  Ruggs (round 1), Aiyuk (round 1 - 2), Reagor (Round 2), 

Edited February 28, 2020 by DJB

[FireChans]

2 hours ago, GG said:

Now that the mock season is in full swing, I'm trying to figure out how Bills will approach the WR position based on what they've done in last 3 years and also guessing on what type of WR is preferred by the offensive design and most importantly the comfort level of the QB.     I don't think you can separate the last two from the decision making, and that can make a huge difference in the draft selection, even though one player may have better measurables.  It's almost like deciding on a quality 4-3 DE to play in a 3-4 alignment.

 

--

 

In the first year, the regime prioritized size over speed in filling out the WR roster, starting with the ill-fated Boldin signing, adding Holmes & Tate, drafting Zay and trading for Matthews.  The midseason trade for Benjamin and the Logan Thomas experiment solidified the emphasis on size.  Of course by then, everyone realized that lack of speed was killing the offense, and thus the late season pick up of Deontae Thompson.   Part of the offensive mismatch was due to the ill fit between Dennison and the rest of the offense, but the personnel were ill-suited to execute the game plan, whatever it was.

 

Next offseason with a new OC and a raw QB, Bills tried to upgrade the WR speed, but couldn't land anyone notable in FA because of the uncertain QB situation.  The additions of Foster & McKenzie helped stretch the field, but they were still average playmakers.  It's also a tough year to analyze given the revolving door at QB, yet Zay & Benjamin had the most targets on the team.

 

In 2019, speed and elusiveness was prioritized with Beasley and Brown additions, and the offense picked up a step, with those two picking up far more receiving targets than what Bills QB threw to a pair of WRs in prior 2 seasons.  Yet the O was still ranked near the bottom.   

 

So a quick glance at the above would suggest that Bills would continue to prioritize speed in FA and draft.   But maybe not.

 

If we take a look at rumors around 2019 trade deadline, Bills appeared to be in the market for Green, but no so much for Sanders.  Then came the Olsen courting last week.  Another hint was provided by the number of targets Duke received in the handful games he played.  He didn't see a lot of snaps vs Titans, but received nearly as much looks as Brown & Beasley.  In the last two games however, he was by far and away the leading target from the QB.  The Jets game was probably an anomaly because Brown & Beasley sat, but it could have been a precursor for the playoffs in getting a bigger receiver more involved.

 

Long story short, my hunch is that the Bills FO is still looking to prioritize size over pure speed, because they think it's a better fit for the QB and the offense.

We can look at Carolina’s previous WR’s too. Funchess etc. Those boys like big WR’s.

[Jerry Jabber]

1 hour ago, thebandit27 said:

Chiefs have Hill, Kelce, Watkins, and Williams in addition to Mahomes.

 

You can say the same for teams like New Orleans, Minnesota, Seattle, LA Rams, Dallas, even Baltimore with Ingram and their 3-headed TE attack. All of them have multiple weapons that defenses need to account for aside from their QB.

Agree 100% Teams that have only one or two effective weapons are less likely to control the ball, make plays and score often as it's easy for defenses to double-team and shut down the one or two players on offense. It also helps having multiple weapons in case of an injury, as it won't completely shut down an offense. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 hour ago, thebandit27 said:

Chiefs have Hill, Kelce, Watkins, and Williams in addition to Mahomes.

 

You can say the same for teams like New Orleans, Minnesota, Seattle, LA Rams, Dallas, even Baltimore with Ingram and their 3-headed TE attack. All of them have multiple weapons that defenses need to account for aside from their QB.

 

...not much OBD could have done IMO in 2017 (pre-Beane).......2018 (i think) had cap restrictions as well as multiple holes, so not sure how to grade that year.....2019 opened up as far as cap but still with holes to fill.....yet we still made the playoffs....now on to 2020......perhaps one of THE more lucrative WR classes in recent memory (Jeremiah quote was, "perhaps the fastest in history"..) and a boatload of money, I'd say previous years should not have much bearing but this year needs to be a home run......you folks "fill in the blanks" with names as I do not get to see college ball...also, with this WR class, is a FA signing still a supplemental priority?......

[Hardhatharry]

I just hope they choose a WR early b.c i don't trust them to get a guy they think might be good. I want one where all the people look at it and go "If he isn't good then I won't blame the GM"

 

No third round WRs....

Edited February 29, 2020 by Hardhatharry

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 minute ago, Hardhatharry said:

I just hope they choose a WR early b.c i don't trust them to get a guy they think light be good. I want one where all the people look at it and go "If he isn't good then I won't blame the GM"

 

No third round WRs....

 

...so if, IF McBeane does go WR in the 1st, should we expect the "WTF A WR (Sammy time) In The 1st Gang" to resurface?....OR...has McBeane earned his stripes knowing what the hell he is doing versus his predecessors??.....stay tuned............

[MJS]

3 hours ago, thebandit27 said:

Chiefs have Hill, Kelce, Watkins, and Williams in addition to Mahomes.

 

You can say the same for teams like New Orleans, Minnesota, Seattle, LA Rams, Dallas, even Baltimore with Ingram and their 3-headed TE attack. All of them have multiple weapons that defenses need to account for aside from their QB.

Minus Watkins. He's an average WR that can randomly have a good game, but game plans will be focused on the other players mentioned.

1 hour ago, Hardhatharry said:

I just hope they choose a WR early b.c i don't trust them to get a guy they think light be good. I want one where all the people look at it and go "If he isn't good then I won't blame the GM"

 

No third round WRs....

Why not both? Draft a guy high and draft one later on as well.

[K-9]

2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

DK Metcalf

Damned good at what he can do and is a weapon to be sure, but he is limited. Personally, I’d want more versatility. That’s not a knock on Metcalf, just a preference for one that offers more scheme flexibility.

[thebandit27]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

Minus Watkins. He's an average WR that can randomly have a good game, but game plans will be focused on the other players mentioned.

Why not both? Draft a guy high and draft one later on as well.

Nope. I promise that teams think about stopping him.

 

Because when they don’t, things happen like what happened against Richard Sherman in the Super Bowl.

[GunnerBill]

5 hours ago, thebandit27 said:

Think of it this way...

 

On Buffalo’s offense, who do you look at and say “boy, if I don’t commit a significant portion of my game plan to stopping [       ], he’s going to kill me”?

 

The only answer is Allen.

 

Good offenses have multiple guys that you say that about.

 

The Bills don’t need a size guy, speed guy, etc; they need multiple players that opponents have to make specific, concerted efforts to stop every time they’re in the field.

 

Yes they need the best guy. Bills fans are obsessed with a bigger receiver. But just get the best guy out there. 

[mead107]

Let’s go back to the late 80s and compare to what’s available now. I think that would be a great place to start. 

[BigBillsFan]

I still believe a TE that can be a consistent outlet is a huge need and unless Knox learns to catch it's still a huge need.

 

The other problem is rookie WRs are not known to blow the doors off. It can and does happen but they need adjustment periods. I still think we get an Aghalor to go with our new WR we grab.

 

And just as I write this I can just FEEL the satanic urge at 1BD to pick a CB in the 1st.

Edited February 29, 2020 by BigBillsFan

[MJS]

7 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

Nope. I promise that teams think about stopping him.

 

Because when they don’t, things happen like what happened against Richard Sherman in the Super Bowl.

Just like they think about stopping every offensive player. He doesn't need special preparation or focus. He's an average WR.

[thebandit27]

7 minutes ago, MJS said:

Just like they think about stopping every offensive player. He doesn't need special preparation or focus. He's an average WR.

An average WR that lead the best offense in football in receiving yards in the playoffs?

 

An average WR that managed over 1,000 yards on less than 100 targets with Tyrod Taylor at QB?

 

He may not be worth his $21M cap hit, but an average WR3 he’s not.

[MJS]

Just now, thebandit27 said:

An average WR that lead the best offense in football in receiving yards in the playoffs?

 

An average WR that managed over 1,000 yards on less than 100 targets with Tyrod Taylor at QB?

 

He may not be worth his $21M cap hit, but an average WR3 he’s not.

Yes and yes. He's a disappointment to what everyone thought he could be. He put up a good 9 game stretch with the Bills and has been nothing but average since. Not a #1 caliber. He's a good #2 WR, though.

 

[BobbyC81]

6 hours ago, Hardhatharry said:

I just hope they choose a WR early b.c i don't trust them to get a guy they think light be good. I want one where all the people look at it and go "If he isn't good then I won't blame the GM"

 

No third round WRs....

But they did such a great job addressing the position in the 2018 draft using a 6th (McCloud) and a 7th (Proehl)

[TigerJ]

I think it is pretty simple, really.  When the McBeane regime took over, they perceived that the Bills had a serious lack of talent at the WR position (among other areas).  The first year was a year for cleaning house and finding guys who might be a short term solution.  They had limited success.  They also had an untenable QB situation.  Tyrod was a nice guy and a team player, but had an unacceptably low ceiling for a long term starter.  They drafted Josh Allen to be a long term starter 2 years ago, but since he was unusually raw, they hoped to have him understudy an experienced starter.  We all know that didn't work out either.  They were still trying to upgrade multiple areas of the team last off season, and chose not to spend any high draft picks on a WR.  They signed as free agents some guys they thought could get open - John Brown deep and Cole Beasley in the slot.  John Brown is fast, and Cole Beasley is a savvy route runner who gains separation by the ability to make precise cuts and accelerate out of his break.  He's not very fast at all.  I don't think Beane is locked in to any one type of receiver.  I think he knows that Josh Allen is not likely to be a QB who can be depended on for precise ball placement or timing any time soon.  His priority is likely to be receivers who are good at creating separation, and have outstanding catch ability (few drops).  He'll also take a receiver who is good at winning 50/50 balls.  If Ruggs were to drop to #22, at 6 foot tall, I don't think Beane would have any problem picking him.  Not only is he the fastest receiver in the draft, he also is a solid route runner and rarely drops a ball.  On the other hand, I could see him drafting Claypool or any one of a number of big receivers in the draft.  I know Claypool has the double advantage of being fast and big too, and he's not even the only guy like that.   The only kind of receiver I don't see Beane targeting, unless he plans on acquiring more than one receiver who will make the 53 man roster, is a smurf like KJ Hamler.

[Reed83HOF]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yes they need the best guy. Bills fans are obsessed with a bigger receiver. But just get the best guy out there. 

Buddy Nix, Whaley & Russty - big guy who's open even when he's covered - that has permeated this board along with the never trade up for WR because of Watkins - which is an entirely different case.

3 hours ago, thebandit27 said:

An average WR that lead the best offense in football in receiving yards in the playoffs?

 

An average WR that managed over 1,000 yards on less than 100 targets with Tyrod Taylor at QB?

 

He may not be worth his $21M cap hit, but an average WR3 he’s not.

Stop killing the narrative LOL. He is treated/villified like the Aaron Maybin of WRs on this board

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 hours ago, BigBillsFan said:

I still believe TE that can be a consistent outlet is a huge need and unless Knox learns to catch it's still a huge need.

 

The other problem is rookie WRs are not known to blow the doors off. It can and does happen but they need adjustment periods. I still think we get an Aghalor to go with our new WR we grab.

 

And just as I write this I can just FEEL the satanic urge at 1BD to pick a CB in the 1st.

 

We haven't agreed on much as of yet but you're 100% "Right On" with most of this.

 

If 1BD picks a DB in the 1st .....{shudder} all I can say is that their actions are not consistent with their words.......

 

I agree that we need a sure-handed consistent TE and that Knox, while promising, has to Prove It.  I would love us to go after Hooper, but after McDermott's little praise-fest about how deep we are at TE, I'm not holding my breath.

 

I don't see us making a push for Agholor.  He's only 27 and he's going to want the Big Bucks.  He's a good receiver, but I don't think his catch % shows him worth the $$ he's going to demand (if we could get him on a prove-it deal, OK...but those drops!!!).  I believe Beane when he says we don't expect to be players in the "deep end" of the FA pool.

 

I'm hoping we bring in a vet WR and another good pass catching TE but I believe it will be a Beasley or a Kroft type guy, someone who is flying a bit "under the radar" at present - a Phillip Dorsett or a Breshad Perriman type - Tajae Sharpe maybe?  His overall year wasn't good, but he showed better after Tannehill took over.  I think he came out with a rep for sharp routes and good hands.  He's at best 3rd on the WR depth chart in Tenn now, and they just signed Adam Humphries for 4 years last season.

 

I think that's the Beane strategy for FA value, look for a guy who has flashed but not quite lived up to potential, who is buried on the depth chart and might "rise and shine". 

 

And that's OK, but if he's sincere about wanting explosive offensive playmakers, he by-damn isn't likely to draft them by taking a CB in the 1st.

8 hours ago, FireChans said:

We can look at Carolina’s previous WR’s too. Funchess etc. Those boys like big WR’s.

 

I hope Beane has looked at Carolina's previous WR like Benjamin and Funchess and said "well, they didn't grow into who we hoped they'd be, maybe we should look for different qualities"

[bmur66]

Too bad they don’t make big, fast receivers

[JohnBonhamRocks]

Above size and the ability to run a fast 40, which don't get me wrong are both nice, I echo anyone who has said it is all about the separation.

[Victory Formation]

Juwan Johnson is a huge WR that graded well at the combine. Most sites had him as a Day 3 pick but who knows where he goes now. Could be that red zone threat that we direly need, maybe he’s there’s RDS 4-5. I think our first pick ultimately goes towards WR but I think we add more than one in the draft. I also like KJ Hill, he’s projected to go RDS 2-4.

[Sweats]

We're gonna reach for a subpar WR and then promote the kid in every aspect......and then he either won't make the roster, he'll be trash or he'll fall apart, ala Sammy "Mr. Glass" Watkins.

 

We need Ceedee Lamb, folks.

[BigBillsFan]

1 hour ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Above size and the ability to run a fast 40, which don't get me wrong are both nice, I echo anyone who has said it is all about the separation.

 

My wife said something similar to me. It was hard to decipher at first, but I'm getting it now that I read this but it was more about drinking a 40 but other than that very close.

[Punching Bag]

18 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...so if, IF McBeane does go WR in the 1st, should we expect the "WTF A WR (Sammy time) In The 1st Gang" to resurface?....OR...has McBeane earned his stripes knowing what the hell he is doing versus his predecessors??.....stay tuned............

 

I'd like to LOL and thumbs up that post!

15 hours ago, MJS said:

Yes and yes. He's a disappointment to what everyone thought he could be. He put up a good 9 game stretch with the Bills and has been nothing but average since. Not a #1 caliber. He's a good #2 WR, though.

 

 

He's a good in some games over priced #2 WR, though.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

4 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

I'd like to LOL and thumbs up that post!

 

He's a good in some games over priced #2 WR, though.

 

 

...with the dichotomy of opinions here from the TBD brethren who analyze college ball in depth, sure as hell glad I'm NOT in McBeane's shoes.....but then again, with his staff of 17+, comprised of many former NFL VP's of Player Personnel or Directors of Player Personnel (probably a payroll of $5+ mil courtesy of Pegs), confident they will do their homework....stay tuned....

[folz]

I don't watch a lot of college football and haven't really dug in yet on the draft, so maybe some of you guys who have can speak to this...

 

Not necessarily in relation to the OP's post, but in relation to the thread title, McBeane tends to like players who have done it for more than one year in college and who are team-first, all football all the time type of guys (no divas). So, adding that criteria, to the need for big-play-making ability (be it with speed or size), does that seem to rule any of the draftees out or push others up the board maybe?

[C.Biscuit97]

On 2/28/2020 at 1:08 PM, Don Otreply said:

Imo, having a mix of receiver types is best,  it gives the offense more versatility when game planning opponents, and opponents have more to be concerned with when playing you. 

 

Go Bills!!!

Your receiving core should be a basketball team. We have a couple of quick guards, possibly a center in Knox, now we need power and small forwards. 
 

we need a guy who in a one on one matchup can just win with his size.