Reed83HOF Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I can understand criticism, but holy hell. Flame away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I mean, it’s fine. Looking like stupid ***** is popular these days. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Who on the Bills killed Chris Collinsworth's dog? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Mayfield throws for a mere 2 more tds while tossing 12 more int’s than Allen. Also posts a significantly lower qb rating.... all while having OBJ and landry at his disposal... and he was better than Allen? Solid take there and the tre white stuff is comically absurd. They had 18 other cb’s ranked ahead of him by seasons end. That’s absolutely HILARIOUS. The man was voted 1st team ALL PRO!!!!! Some of the other leftovers on that list are equally as bad... I honestly used to sort of respect PFF as a SMALL tool in the evaluation toolbox. It’s very clear I was giving them way too much credit. 15 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I can understand criticism, but holy hell. Flame away Some background on Sam Monson (you be the judge): https://www.buzz.ie/sport/meet-irishman-known-around-nfl-312464 Experience Pro Football Focus 8 years 9 months Director of Consumer Ops Oct 2018 – Present 1 year 5 months Lead NFL Analyst 2015 – Sep 2018 3 years Senior NFL Analyst Jun 2011 – Apr 2015 3 years 11 months Player Participation Analyst Jun 2008 – Apr 2011 2 years 11 months Rugby Coach--Willow Park School 2005 – 2008 3 years Blackrock, Dublin, Ireland Part time kids rugby coach Part time kids rugby coach Education Dublin Institute of Technology international journalismJournalism 2007 – 2008 The Honorable Society of King's Inns The Honorable Society of King's Inns diploma in legal studiesLaw 2005 – 2007 Newcastle University Bachelor's degree history and politics 2000 – 2004 Edited February 11, 2020 by Lurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, gobills404 said: I'm convinced Allen has slept with the wife of everyone at PFF. They have wives? I thought they were in love with their computer models I'm convinced Allen has better things to do, like a live girl model. I mean I don't want to ping this site's 'sexual content' filter by putting the pictures in but https://www.instagram.com/p/B8Nr6D9gMCC/ https://www.instagram.com/p/B8UGX5dgZ5E/ Enjoy the scenery! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lurker said: Some background on Sam Monson (you be the judge): https://www.buzz.ie/sport/meet-irishman-known-around-nfl-312464 Experience Pro Football Focus 8 years 9 months Director of Consumer Ops Oct 2018 – Present1 year 5 months Cincinnati Lead NFL Analyst 2015 – Sep 20183 years Senior NFL Analyst Jun 2011 – Apr 20153 years 11 months Player Participation Analyst Pro Football Focus Jun 2008 – Apr 20112 years 11 months Rugby Coach Willow Park School 2005 – 20083 years Blackrock, Dublin, Ireland Part time kids rugby coach Part time kids rugby coach Education Dublin Institute of Technology Dublin Institute of Technology international journalismJournalism 2007 – 2008 The Honorable Society of King's Inns The Honorable Society of King's Inns diploma in legal studiesLaw 2005 – 2007 Newcastle University Newcastle University Bachelor's degreehistory and politics 2000 – 2004 I wonder if his political takes are as much hot ***** as his football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Are the PFF staff even allowed in the city of Buffalo at this point? My goodness this isn’t just being laughably biased these people should feel shame for even reporting it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 27 minutes ago, Lurker said: Some background on Sam Monson (you be the judge): https://www.buzz.ie/sport/meet-irishman-known-around-nfl-312464 Experience Pro Football Focus 8 years 9 months Director of Consumer Ops Oct 2018 – Present1 year 5 months Cincinnati Lead NFL Analyst 2015 – Sep 20183 years Senior NFL Analyst Jun 2011 – Apr 20153 years 11 months Player Participation Analyst Pro Football Focus Jun 2008 – Apr 20112 years 11 months Rugby Coach Willow Park School 2005 – 20083 years Blackrock, Dublin, Ireland Part time kids rugby coach Part time kids rugby coach Education Dublin Institute of Technology Dublin Institute of Technology international journalismJournalism 2007 – 2008 The Honorable Society of King's Inns The Honorable Society of King's Inns diploma in legal studiesLaw 2005 – 2007 Newcastle University Newcastle University Bachelor's degreehistory and politics 2000 – 2004 Wonder if he knows Cian Fahey? The honorable society of king's inns - wonder if he really means this:https://kingsinnsandiego.com/ or this place https://twitter.com/kingsinnpremier 26 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: They have wives? I thought they were in love with their computer models I'm convinced Allen has better things to do, like a live girl model. I mean I don't want to ping this site's 'sexual content' filter by putting the pictures in but https://www.instagram.com/p/B8Nr6D9gMCC/ https://www.instagram.com/p/B8UGX5dgZ5E/ Enjoy the scenery! His girl needs to become friends with Mrs. Poyer Edit: Also do not let @Gugny see this - too mature for his eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: The honorable society of king's inns - wonder if he really means this: Nope. It's a Law school: https://www.kingsinns.ie/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Lurker said: Nope. It's a Law school: https://www.kingsinns.ie/ I know - it was a joke Edited February 11, 2020 by Reed83HOF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY315 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) Wow. A 1st team All-Pro isn't a top 101 player lmao Edited February 11, 2020 by CNY315 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan20 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 PFF hyped Baker Mayfield more than any other prospect. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: His girl needs to become friends with Mrs. Poyer Edit: Also do not let @Gugny see this - too mature for his eyes ? I'm sure they know each other - there are group pics of a bunch of the wives and GF out there (Britt, Jerry Hughes' wife Meghan, Tre' White's GF Ikea, Harrison Phillips' GF Shae). I think I heard a lot of the wives and GF hang out and attend or watch games together. Jill Kelly and Patti Thomas comment on her Insta pics a lot. I haven't seen Rachel Bush as part of the group or commenting on the pics, might not mean much though, not like I comb through 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) This Monson guy knows his stuff http://www.nfl.com/videos/pff/0ap3000001023912/Two-under-the-radar-free-agents-according-to-PFF Adrian Clayborn: 2019 stats 15 games, one start, 18 tackles, 4 sacks Maxx Williams: 2019 stats 16 games, 10 starts, 15 receptions, 202 yards, 1 TD Edited February 11, 2020 by Lurker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Opinions... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 So ZERO Bills are in the top 101 .. only other teams with that honor are Lions, Dolphins, and Giants. There is something different about those teams .. can't put my finger on it. So the Bills win 10 games with clearly a crap team .. how do they explain that? They are useless .. though they make nice graphics .. very pretty which is what I look for in a football site. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Mayfield has better advanced metrics than Allen. DYAR, DVOA and QBR are all in Mayfield’s favor. That’s what PFF uses so it makes sense that they have him in front of Allen. But I’m not sure how Tre doesn’t rate better. I know they said he just missed the cutoff for the top 100, but I don’t see how he didn’t make it comfortably. Perhaps there is something important that they aren’t factoring into their ratings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 minute ago, BarleyNY said: Mayfield has better advanced metrics than Allen. DYAR, DVOA and QBR are all in Mayfield’s favor. That’s what PFF uses so it makes sense that they have him in front of Allen. But I’m not sure how Tre doesn’t rate better. I know they said he just missed the cutoff for the top 100, but I don’t see how he didn’t make it comfortably. Perhaps there is something important that they aren’t factoring into their ratings. Like a pair of eye's? I mean even 1 eye would be a start; guess they like their brown one better 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 35 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: They have wives? I thought they were in love with their computer models I'm convinced Allen has better things to do, like a live girl model. I mean I don't want to ping this site's 'sexual content' filter by putting the pictures in but https://www.instagram.com/p/B8Nr6D9gMCC/ https://www.instagram.com/p/B8UGX5dgZ5E/ Enjoy the scenery! She could eat corn on the cob through a picket fence... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: She could eat corn on the cob through a picket fence... I have no idea what that means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Allen’s not perfect. We know this. But that is pure click-bait crap. Highest level of trolling. Sadly, it works. Just look at his replies. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Mayfield has better advanced metrics than Allen. DYAR, DVOA and QBR are all in Mayfield’s favor. That’s what PFF uses so it makes sense that they have him in front of Allen. But I’m not sure how Tre doesn’t rate better. I know they said he just missed the cutoff for the top 100, but I don’t see how he didn’t make it comfortably. Perhaps there is something important that they aren’t factoring into their ratings. Yes—performance. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Just now, TheProcess said: Allen’s not perfect. We know this. But that is pure click-bait crap. Highest level of trolling. Sadly, it works. Just look at his replies. Eh. As someone upthread said, they base their QB rankings on their "special secret sauce" statistics - DVOA and DYAR are PFF's brand I think. So it makes sense they would favor a guy who is better in those statistics, which Allen is not. We had a mediocre offense this year and so did the Browns, so yapping about whether Mayfield or Allen was worse is to some extent arguing about the deck-chair arrangements on the Titanic. The problem is when they have a guy like Tre' White who is not just a probowler, but a first-team All Pro and a critical player on the #2 offense for points, #3 for yards - and they rank him so low. Let's reiterate that: by the two main criteria that matter, points given up and yards given up, the Bills D is elite, and Tre' Day is one of the star players who make it so - yet he doesn't crack their 100 top players list. What that says to me is that the "special secret sauce" statistics by which they determine that are flawed and living in a Falling Credibility Zone. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I have no idea what that means Those uppers..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Posting obligatory “I stopped reading at PFF.” How can anyone take PFF seriously? And why do people pay for access to these er, hot takes? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I honestly don't understand why anyone cares about PFF. We all saw the improvement from Allen ourselves. And you'd have to be blind to not realize Baker went down hill this year. As for Tre... Maybe we can sign him cheaper now that we know he isn't a top corner. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Those uppers..... You must have missed your True Inner Passion -- for orthodontistry. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: You must have missed your True Inner Passion -- for orthodontistry. ? can we get @teef's thoughts on this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Posting obligatory “I stopped reading at PFF.” How can anyone take PFF seriously? And why do people pay for access to these er, hot takes? I don’t know why people care about this stuff. It’s just opinions and everyone has them, just like they have as.s.......... never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 ..people still haven't realized that trolling is good business. They say something outlandish and the internet gets in a hubbub thus driving traffic. Basically, they cause car crash to attract onlookers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 54 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Perhaps there is something important that they aren’t factoring into their ratings. I think they are forgetting to factor in the quality of his play on the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 57 minutes ago, TheProcess said: Allen’s not perfect. We know this. But that is pure click-bait crap. Highest level of trolling. Sadly, it works. Just look at his replies. Yeah this is obviously the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 We should like this. Crappy & under the radar works for us. We'll get the last laugh (I hope) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 54 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Those uppers..... Giselle has a man face 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: Wonder if he knows Cian Fahey? The honorable society of king's inns - wonder if he really means this:https://kingsinnsandiego.com/ or this place https://twitter.com/kingsinnpremier His girl needs to become friends with Mrs. Poyer Edit: Also do not let @Gugny see this - too mature for his eyes I'll be back in 5-7 minutes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 These are the guys who said Duck Hodges was better too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 There are very few sports pundits and analysts who are truly informed and knowledgeable. Most just say stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, BuffaloBillies said: We should like this. Crappy & under the radar works for us. We'll get the last laugh (I hope) I got my "Buffalo vs Everybody" hoodie!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, Gugny said: I'll be back in 5-7 minutes. nice - you've doubled your time! Keep up the good work!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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