Brady Free Agency speculation: Down to Bucs and... Chargers? Miami?

[atlbillsfan1975]

two more weeks!! 
this is going to be one of the more entertaining off seasons in years when it comes to qb’s moving around. 

[LabattBlue]

I’m all for wishing the Brady era with the Pats is done, but if he is playing in 2020, I find it hard to believe it is with anyone but the Pats. 

Edited March 4, 2020 by LabattBlue

[YoloinOhio]

4 minutes ago, Crayola64 said:

this is his age 28 season....

Ah maybe it’s 30 at the end of his contract. They were talking on the radio like he was already 30

[MJS]

7 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

Maybe... But he was worth just two when he didn't cost a bunch of money and when the NFL QB landscape was in much worse shape... Maybe just a three right now? Where would be a fit/who would want him? Not a whole lot of open QB spots this year. 

 

He had barely played by then. A team will give a 1st round pick for sure for Jimmy G. No doubt.

[BuffaloBills1998]

So who in their right mind is going to trade for Garoppolo with that bloated contract? Sure there are QB needy teams out there but I can’t see anyone taking in his contract and paying him 30 plus million. He’s not that good he’s a game manager at best

[YoloinOhio]

Also, Brady and jimmy G have the same agent 

[MJS]

Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said:

So who in their right mind is going to trade for Garoppolo with that bloated contract? Sure there are QB needy teams out there but I can’t see anyone taking in his contract and paying him 30 plus million. He’s not that good he’s a game manager at best

Miami I bet. Jags. Redskins.

 

30 million is going to be the new average for a starting QB very shortly.

[DCOrange]

1 minute ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

So who in their right mind is going to trade for Garoppolo with that bloated contract? Sure there are QB needy teams out there but I can’t see anyone taking in his contract and paying him 30 plus million. He’s not that good he’s a game manager at best

It's not 30+ million. It's like $26-27 million. Someone would do it for a 1st or 2nd round pick IMO. But it would be a mistake.

[MAJBobby]

Brady will be in Vegas or Tenn IMO. 

Edited March 4, 2020 by MAJBobby

[H2o]

Another thing to consider is San Francisco signing Brady to a 1 year deal to go all in this year, but then chasing Shanny's boy Cousins next year when he becomes a FA. That could be the real plan behind all of it. They don't think Janeane is the long term solution so they sign Brady for a year, release Janeane, and go after Kirk in 2021.  

[BuffaloBills1998]

8 minutes ago, MJS said:

Miami I bet. Jags. Redskins.

 

30 million is going to be the new average for a starting QB very shortly.

Sounds like Washington’s already giving up on Haskins lol, Miami I can see but I think they’re sticking with the Fitz and Rosen combo and whoever they end up drafting. Jags got too much money tied into Foles

[billsfan89]

The Titans make a lot of sense on the field. Brady has a relationship with the coach, Dion Lewis and Derrick Henry are a good backfield (Dion Lewis is also a target he is familiar with) they have a solid O-line and a decent set of receivers. The Titans also have a strong defense which helps put less pressure on Brady. If they could add Brady while resigning Henry, getting a decent kicking game, and a couple of pieces to the offense they should be a very good team.

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Sounds like Washington’s already giving up on Haskins lol, Miami I can see but I think they’re sticking with the Fitz and Rosen combo and whoever they end up drafting. Jags got too much money tied into Foles

Fitz is a FA as of now but i only thought of Miami because they have a lot of cap space and their HC was with Jimmy G in NE 

[thebandit27]

14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Also, Brady and jimmy G have the same agent 

Then he’d almost certainly want Brady to go to SF; he gets the commission on the Brady deal, and then gets to negotiate a new deal for Jimmy and commission that as well.

[BillsFan4]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Full story -

 

 

 

[BillsVet]

27 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

because it's all about getting a title. if brady can get you that extra edge you go for that title right now.  

 

Then why isn't Buffalo in on that conversation? They have the cap room and QB play is the single most important aspect to winning titles.

 

Titles are the goal and sometimes that fact is lost when this franchise has been starting new rebuilds for nearly 2 decades now. 

[BuffaloBills1998]

14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Fitz is a FA as of now but i only thought of Miami because they have a lot of cap space and their HC was with Jimmy G in NE 

No fitz is still under contact with Miami he signed a 2 year deal

[Royale with Cheese]

5 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

 

Then why isn't Buffalo in on that conversation? They have the cap room and QB play is the single most important aspect to winning titles.

 

Titles are the goal and sometimes that fact is lost when this franchise has been starting new rebuilds for nearly 2 decades now. 

 

I can't believe this concept is difficult for you.  Well....actually I can.

[MJS]

16 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Sounds like Washington’s already giving up on Haskins lol, Miami I can see but I think they’re sticking with the Fitz and Rosen combo and whoever they end up drafting. Jags got too much money tied into Foles

Sounds like they are trying to trade Foles, and how would that be different from the 49ers who have a lot tied up with Jimmy G but supposedly want Brady?

 

As for Haskins, I think he sucks, but that's just me. It's not unheard of for teams to move on from young QB's quickly. Look at Rosen.

[DCOrange]

Boston media guy just to give you an idea of the angle their spinning it with:

 

 

1 minute ago, MJS said:

Sounds like they are trying to trade Foles, and how would that be different from the 49ers who have a lot tied up with Jimmy G but supposedly want Brady?

 

As for Haskins, I think he sucks, but that's just me. It's not unheard of for teams to move on from young QB's quickly. Look at Rosen.

Big difference between the two is that moving Jimmy frees up a ton of cap space. Moving Foles does not.

[Mark Vader]

32 minutes ago, MJS said:

 

He had barely played by then. A team will give a 1st round pick for sure for Jimmy G. No doubt.

A team giving up a 1st round pick for Garoppolo would be idiotic.

 

Has anybody seen this guy play football? So overrated.

[Kirby Jackson]

Is it weird that I really don’t care where Brady ends up? He looks like he’s about to fall off a cliff to me. If this were 5 years ago I’d be all over this. I’m completely indifferent at this point. He’s a pretty good starting QB now IMO. The days of shredding the Bills and the league are over. He’s still good enough to win on a good team (SF) but he’s not carrying anybody again.

Edited March 5, 2020 by Kirby Jackson

[MJS]

1 minute ago, Mark Vader said:

A team giving up a 1st round pick for Garoppolo would be idiotic.

 

Has anybody seen this guy play football? So overrated.

 

He has the stats to back it up and just took his team to the Superbowl. He's 19-5 as a starter with the 49ers. In 2019 had 4,000 yards, 27 TD's, 69.1% completion percentage, 102 QB rating. Those are very good numbers.

[YoloinOhio]

12 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

No fitz is still under contact with Miami he signed a 2 year deal

Ok I thought he was in limbo - maybe there was just talk of him getting replaced with all the better vet options out there 

[Mark Vader]

1 minute ago, MJS said:

 

He has the stats to back it up and just took his team to the Superbowl. He's 19-5 as a starter with the 49ers. In 2019 had 4,000 yards, 27 TD's, 69.1% completion percentage, 102 QB rating. Those are very good numbers.

Looking at his stats is one thing. Looking at him during game time is another.

 

He can thank the 49'ers defense and running game for his Win-Loss record.

 

When Garoppolo throws interceptions, he throws terrible looking interceptions, and lots of near interceptions.

 

He is not worth a first round pick, not even a 2nd round pick.

[BuffaloBills1998]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

Ok I thought he was in limbo - maybe there was just talk of him getting replaced with all the better vet options out there 

I read some stuff as well, like Philip rivers to Miami cause he moved his family to Florida. Although I think Fitz is better than most of the vet QBs that are either on the block or ones that have been released 

[KD in CA]

24 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Looking at his stats is one thing. Looking at him during game time is another.

 

He can thank the 49'ers defense and running game for his Win-Loss record.

 

When Garoppolo throws interceptions, he throws terrible looking interceptions, and lots of near interceptions.

 

He is not worth a first round pick, not even a 2nd round pick.

 

Sports radio guys were deep into this last night on my way home, Brady to SF and Jimmy G back to NE.  You're right about Jimmy G and the proof was right there in the Super Bowl.  He had a lead in the 4Q and couldn't get it done. He was terrible on those last few drives and it cost them the game. Of course, he's still young and might improve.   Brady gives them one year...two at the outside.  So they pretty much need to draft his replacement this year or next and that won't be easy picking in the 30s.   

 

So it comes down to 'do we go all in for a Super Bowl, or do we stay the course for the long term'.  Tough call for SF, but it's the only place other than NE there is any possibility of Brady playing IMO.

[Captain Hindsight]

1 hour ago, whatdrought said:

 

What's the trade value on a Jimmy G?

That guy that just started the SB? i'd say at least a 1st

[YoloinOhio]

 

[MJS]

42 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Looking at his stats is one thing. Looking at him during game time is another.

 

He can thank the 49'ers defense and running game for his Win-Loss record.

 

When Garoppolo throws interceptions, he throws terrible looking interceptions, and lots of near interceptions.

 

He is not worth a first round pick, not even a 2nd round pick.

 

He had plenty of stellar games too. Look, I don't think Jimmy G is an elite QB by any means, but he's a good starter and can win you a lot of games.

[whatdrought]

1 minute ago, Captain Hindsight said:

That guy that just started the SB? i'd say at least a 1st

 

 

That's the least significant resume list item possible. Especially when directly below it is "lost a superbowl by missing critical throws."

[Captain Hindsight]

2 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

 

That's the least significant resume list item possible. Especially when directly below it is "lost a superbowl by missing critical throws."

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge Jimmy G Fan. But I could see the following teams strongly considering Jimmy G this offseason were he to become available

 

Bears

Miami

Carolina 

Tampa

Raiders

Chargers

Redskins

Colts

 

Not saying, they would get it but I wouldnt be shocked if he was traded for a 1st. Dude wins, has pretty good numbers, a manageable contract and just started the SB. Someone would be willing to take  chance on a guy like that

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, nucci said:

what is he stretching out? Has he turned down offers from the Patriots?

I of course am not in on the details, but if Tawmy is out looking it’s because he thinks he can get more than the Pats have likely offered thus far, jmo. Why else would he be out looking? 

[whatdrought]

10 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge Jimmy G Fan. But I could see the following teams strongly considering Jimmy G this offseason were he to become available

 

Bears

Miami

Carolina 

Tampa

Raiders

Chargers

Redskins

Colts

 

Not saying, they would get it but I wouldnt be shocked if he was traded for a 1st. Dude wins, has pretty good numbers, a manageable contract and just started the SB. Someone would be willing to take  chance on a guy like that

 

All good points, and It might be a thing where a team prefers the sure thing over the hope of a good prospect.... Colts and Bears would make sense.

24 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

[Foxx]

12 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge Jimmy G Fan. But I could see the following teams strongly considering Jimmy G this offseason were he to become available

 

Bears

Miami

Carolina 

Tampa

Raiders

Chargers

Redskins

Colts

 

Not saying, they would get it but I wouldnt be shocked if he was traded for a 1st. Dude wins, has pretty good numbers, a manageable contract and just started the SB. Someone would be willing to take  chance on a guy like that

i think anyone of those teams, outside of maybe the Colts, would give up a 1st for JG.

[Reed83HOF]

29 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Why do you follow a Pats All-22 fan account? 

Edited March 4, 2020 by Reed83HOF

[H2o]

2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

Why do you follow a Pats All-22 fan account? 

Yolo Schefter is everywhere 

[BillsVet]

1 hour ago, DCOrange said:

Boston media guy just to give you an idea of the angle their spinning it with:

 

 

Big difference between the two is that moving Jimmy frees up a ton of cap space. Moving Foles does not.

 

I think Brady wants to stay, but is angling for more money and thinks he can persuade Belicheck and Kraft. 

 

My money is on Belicheck having a plan...and interesting that Brady has people carrying water for him.  Perhaps it's Dalton or someone who'll give them an experienced QB. 

 

I wish more people understood that everyone has an angle they're trying to exploit.  And that's what Brady is doing here.  Reminds me of Derek Jeter getting upset near the end of his career when the Yankees wanted to offer less than the ~20M per he'd been paid.  That said, Brady's taken less for multiple years and sees QB pay exploding now.

[Jauronimo]

Just now, Reed83HOF said:

Why do you follow a Pats All-22 fan account? 

Why do you follow Snooki and Kato Kaelin? 

[C.Biscuit97]

1 hour ago, Mark Vader said:

Looking at his stats is one thing. Looking at him during game time is another.

 

He can thank the 49'ers defense and running game for his Win-Loss record.

 

When Garoppolo throws interceptions, he throws terrible looking interceptions, and lots of near interceptions.

 

He is not worth a first round pick, not even a 2nd round pick.

Yeah, his stats aren’t bad but he is in a great situation where a lot of guys would put up good stats.  
 

I think it would be absolutely hilarious if he goes to SF.  I would love to see who has the better year without each other: Brady or Belichick.  I mean Brady isn’t what he was but I think people are kinda overrating how “bad” he was.  NE’s skill players kinda sucked last year. 

37 minutes ago, MJS said:

 

He had plenty of stellar games too. Look, I don't think Jimmy G is an elite QB by any means, but he's a good starter and can win you a lot of games.

He was awesome twice against Arizona and really good against NO.  Other than That, he was kinda replacement level.  He doesn’t suck and certainly is a starter.  But they can upgrade.