BigBuff423 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: Rosen's future is not in the NFL. Miami will dump him pretty soon. They brought him in on a flyer with minimum risk since in their trade down they got another 2nd round pick. Then in a rebuild year, they thought so little of him that they decided pretty quickly that he was not their QB of the future after seeing him play in a few games and instead of trying to develop him, they benched him in favor of the guy who gave them the best chance of winning a few games. Since the coach had a free pass, he didn't have to win any games to keep his job. If he saw anything that gave him hope of developing Rosen, he would have played him rather than sat him. Instead he went with Fitz & I guarantee Miami takes a QB in the 1st round. That leaves Rosen out the door since there's no way they're keeping the rookie, a veteran (either Fitz or Rivers) & Rosen. I wouldn't be shocked that as soon as Miami drafts the rookie QB, Rosen is either traded for a late round pick, or if there are no takers, released outright before camp. I hear your point, but it wasn't about what I think Miami "would" do, but my original post was what - IMHO - is best to do. Bring Rivers in, give Rosen another year and put players and good coaches around him, then let him fly in 2021 and give him the whole year. Mayfield had loads of talent around him more than Rosen, and Josh Allen was just in a better situation because he's had better coaches and mentors around him, the way Rosen needed them. Darnold was a turnover machine and it got much better after the second half of his second year and nobody has ever doubted Darnold's talent - just if his mechanics will get in the way of production. Time will tell. 11 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: So Rosen does nothing well? He has potential. Cool. Its year 3 Baker Mayfield Joined a team that had ONE win in two years and Hue Jackson was the coach. His HC and OC were fired midseason Josh Allen had a terrible offensive line, no WRs of note and a failing running game Sam Darnold was playing for a lame duck coach and had no offensive line All three of those players were able to elevate those around them and make plays. With Rosen, apparently he needs everything to be perfect for him to have any chance. This may be a shock to you, but no situation in the NFL is perfect. People love to just assume its coaching or scheme as to why a guy isnt performing. He was a top ten pick. The most pro-ready QB. The best tape, the right coaching and perfect mechanics and he has shown NOTHING in two years. At some point, it has to be about Rosen not being good enough. It is such a common tale, I'm not sure why people can't accept it If the Bills brought Rosen here and said, "we are going to make him our QB" How would you feel? Me? I'd cancel my season tickets See post above - but to me - it's too early to pull the plug on Rosen when you (I) consider the situations he was in and the lack of support he's had. JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: I hear your point, but it wasn't about what I think Miami "would" do, but my original post was what - IMHO - is best to do. Bring Rivers in, give Rosen another year and put players and good coaches around him, then let him fly in 2021 and give him the whole year. Mayfield had loads of talent around him more than Rosen, and Josh Allen was just in a better situation because he's had better coaches and mentors around him, the way Rosen needed them. Darnold was a turnover machine and it got much better after the second half of his second year and nobody has ever doubted Darnold's talent - just if his mechanics will get in the way of production. Time will tell. See post above - but to me - it's too early to pull the plug on Rosen when you (I) consider the situations he was in and the lack of support he's had. JMO. He's Blaine Gabbert repackaged. Gabbert played a long time and made a ton of $. Rosen will coast on that potential for plenty of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 30 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: I disagree. He's a borderline HOFer while Eli isn't. His stats are superior. Eli relied heavily on those defenses to win those SB's. Being in the NFC helped not having to go through Brady, P. Manning, and Roethlisberger every year. Rivers - 64.7%, 59,271 yards, 397 TD's, 198 INT's, 95.1 passer rating, 123-101 regular season record. 5-6 in the playoffs with a 84.2 passer rating Eli- 60.3%, 57,023 yards, 366 TD's, 244 INT's, 84.1 passer rating, 117-117 regular season record. 8-4 in the playoffs with a 87.4 passer rating. 2 SB's, 2 SB MVP's You’re mistaking me for someone who thinks Eli belongs in the HoF... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 hour ago, BigBuff423 said: Which is why I started out saying he's been put in two terrible situations. There are a number of QBs who start slow, get a different head coach / offensive coordinator, and start to put things together. I do think Rosen "could" be an NFL QB, a decent to good one at that. But he needs to have the proper support from coaches, to scheme, to players - like nearly all good QBs. He's been in two situations that could NOT have been worse during those first two seasons (except maybe Cincy come to think of it). It is far too soon, IMHO, to throw in the towel on Rosen....he needs a fresh set of eyes with a solid supporting cast and if Rivers could / can hold the unit down for a year while Rosen has another year to learn the same Offense, Miami can bring in more support on the Offensive Line and Rivers can tutor Rosen a bit, you could have a very good starting QB. Rosen has all of the tools and mental acumen needed - does he have the work ethic and dedication to the game? That's the one X-factor in my mind he hasn't answered and really can't answer until he is given an entire season to start and play. These are all fair points. Rosen really hasn’t been put in any position to succeed, so it’s not time to give up on him. I always find it amusing: mention how the Bills could’ve drafted Mahomes and a crowd of people will say “but he wouldn’t have succeeded to this extent with Buffalo’s coaches/offensive weapons/etc.” and maybe that’s true. If it is true, then putting Rosen into the worst offensive situation in the NFL in 2018 and the dumpster fire that was the first half of the Dolphins 2019 tank job is also relevant in assessing his performance, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Regarding Rivers and the HOF, the election committees over time have always valued longevity combined with statistics. Always. As a result, rivers will make the HOF. It’s just a question of when. While I personally don’t think he will make it in his first year of eligibility, I am not underestimating the power of lobbying that some voters may have on the other electors, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, K-9 said: Regarding Rivers and the HOF, the election committees over time have always valued longevity combined with statistics. Always. As a result, rivers will make the HOF. It’s just a question of when. While I personally don’t think he will make it in his first year of eligibility, I am not underestimating the power of lobbying that some voters may have on the other electors, either. I don't disagree that Rivers will probably get in; the question is, should he get in? This concept has been eroded over the years, but for me, the minimum HoF requirement should be "Was this guy one of the 2 or 3 best players in the league at his position for a significant stretch of time (meaning more than just one season)?" I don't see how Rivers passes this test. I'm not going to go through all the numbers, but I doubt there was more than one season in which he was one of the two or three QBs in the league. The top QBs of his era were Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, and P. Manning. Rivers is somewhere in the next tier, along with Matt Ryan, Eli and maybe Matt Stafford--good--often very good--but not great. Edited January 28, 2020 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I wish he was coming to the Bills. Add a #1 WR, RT, G and a backup RB if Wade doesn't pan out and we could be headed back to the SB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I just don’t see him out there. They stink. They have no fans. I see no reason to go from 38 year-old QB to a 43 year-old QB. If the Chargers are moving on from Rivers they should do it with a young guy. The 2 young guys in that range have different concerns but neither will be starting week 1 IMO. Dalton or Tyrod makes the most sense short-term to me. Have a bridge guy for a few weeks to year needed and then turn it over to the young guy. That doesn’t feel like a Brady situation to me. LA loves celebrities. And honestly, the Chargers might be more talented than the Pats right now on offense. and I respect Rivers but he was part of the problem. The Chargers were a very predictable team. Fall behind or start the season bad, come back in a game or get back in playoff contention, Rivers throws an int to end the game/ season. Edited January 28, 2020 by C.Biscuit97 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 On 1/27/2020 at 3:29 PM, YoloinOhio said: It looks like the thread about him moving his family from SD to Florida got locked or i would have tacked this on there, as there was discussion in that thread about him playing elsewhere next year. I don’t think he will want to retire. I believe they will take a QB at 6 (or try to move up higher if needed to take one) which helps push the non QBs down They finally got smart and realized Philip would never do it for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Some team is going to sign Mariota in free agency. I just hope it's not the Patriots. I want them to spend a #1 pick on a project QB. Could see Mariota landing with the Chargers or maybe Colts. In the right setting, he could be a comeback story. Frank Reich did wonders with Nick Foles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 On 1/27/2020 at 3:33 PM, plenzmd1 said: Man, this just seems so cold..not that they are moving on, just the way it is coming out. Shades of February 99 i guess....cmon teams, yall can do better than this it has already been mentioned im sure but on the off chance it has not... the parting was probably mutual. i think we know Rivers was not big on moving nor playing in LA. in fact, i might go so far to venture that it was probably more Philip than the Chargers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, turftoe said: Some team is going to sign Mariota in free agency. I just hope it's not the Patriots. I want them to spend a #1 pick on a project QB. Could see Mariota landing with the Chargers or maybe Colts. In the right setting, he could be a comeback story. Frank Reich did wonders with Nick Foles. 5 minutes ago, turftoe said: Some team is going to sign Mariota in free agency. I just hope it's not the Patriots. I want them to spend a #1 pick on a project QB. Could see Mariota landing with the Chargers or maybe Colts. In the right setting, he could be a comeback story. Frank Reich did wonders with Nick Foles. ...he already said, "I WILL be a starter somewhere"......agree or disagree?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon127 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 23 hours ago, Saint Doug said: Absolutely not. Every great QB plays for about 2 years past their true retirement age. During this time, they become a huge liability for their team. For what we’ve been through for the last 2 decades, we deserve every minute of that glorious downfall. I don’t want him out of the AFC East. Its kind of like having that dream job when you were in high school. And then reality hits in your mid 20s. Since 2011, i was hoping we would start beating him regularly and we havent. Even this past year we couldnt beat him. Go to the chargers, we will still get to play against him once this year, but dont need to worry about him in our division anymore. Listen, if he stays, fine. But we cant win the division until decemeber, so give me something to celebrate in March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 15 hours ago, JetsFan20 said: They traded a 24 year old stud left tackle to get those draft picks. Folks act like it was a stroke of genius, but I’m not sure about that. What 6-7 years of elite left tackle play worth to you? To me that’s the type of guy you want to hold onto-especially when drafting a young injury riddled QB. A stud who was moved to guard until their tackle was injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 always found him overrated and mediocre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 7 hours ago, mannc said: You’re mistaking me for someone who thinks Eli belongs in the HoF... My mistake. You made it sound as if Eli gets in and then Rivers that's the last straw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: Every time I see a post quoting QB stats I cringe. Eli Manning was one of the best big game clutch players of his generation. Rivers, on the other hand choked away many opportunities. Eli had a lot of mediocre games, but with the game on the line in games that mattered, he was money. The only time I'd use money and Rivers in the same sentence would be : Rivers made a lot of money during his NFL career. Stats have to be considered for the HOF. Flacco had a lot of mediocre games and then went on a great run to win SB MVP. Would you consider him a HOF'er if he repeated the same performance three years later? Eli has similar stats (QB rating is identical) but just played longer. Edited January 29, 2020 by Doc Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 16 hours ago, mannc said: I don't disagree that Rivers will probably get in; the question is, should he get in? This concept has been eroded over the years, but for me, the minimum HoF requirement should be "Was this guy one of the 2 or 3 best players in the league at his position for a significant stretch of time (meaning more than just one season)?" I don't see how Rivers passes this test. I'm not going to go through all the numbers, but I doubt there was more than one season in which he was one of the two or three QBs in the league. The top QBs of his era were Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, and P. Manning. Rivers is somewhere in the next tier, along with Matt Ryan, Eli and maybe Matt Stafford--good--often very good--but not great. Agreed. But sometimes longevity wins. In baseball, that gets you guys like Harold Baines in the Hall of Fame. And by the way, I think that may be a motivation for Rivers to keep playing -- a couple more years, another 60 TD passes, he's probably in after a wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) Edited February 2, 2020 by Hapless Bills Fan not sure we need a new thread for every agent tweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: @Hapless Bills Fan This is the Pats specifically looking at another QB, it just happens to be Rivers. i don't see this as the same as chagers moving on from Rivers, where it is more Pats looki8ng at another QB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: @Hapless Bills Fan This is the Pats specifically looking at another QB, it just happens to be Rivers. i don't see this as the same as chagers moving on from Rivers, where it is more Pats looki8ng at another QB When it's a bit more fleshed-out than sourceless claim the Patriots talked to Rivers agent, I will agree it's worth its own thread. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Pleaseeeeeeeee let this happen. Rivers is a monster downgrade from Brady. At that point I’d take Dalton or Bridgewater over him I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 1/27/2020 at 12:33 PM, plenzmd1 said: Man, this just seems so cold..not that they are moving on, just the way it is coming out. Shades of February 99 i guess....cmon teams, yall can do better than this They are pretending to move on. Rivers wants no part of playing for that garbage franchise. You could tell he wanted out in his end of the year presser. If they were still in San Diego they would still have Rivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 3 hours ago, GimmeSomeProcess said: Pleaseeeeeeeee let this happen. Rivers is a monster downgrade from Brady. At that point I’d take Dalton or Bridgewater over him I Yeah, I don't see the Patriots being seriously interested in Rivers, that's why before we make a thread about it I would like it to be based on more than something Rivers agent "leaks" to some media dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: If so, can’t see him leaving Which would be awesome because they have a lot of FA's, but only $44,000,000 in cap space. If Brady eats up 30 mill+ of that then it would seriously impede them signing the rest of their key FA's. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 minute ago, H2o said: Which would be awesome because they have a lot of FA's, but only $44,000,000 in cap space. If Brady eats up 30 mill+ of that then it would seriously impede them signing the rest of their key FA's. I put that in the wrong thread and moved it to the Brady thread but I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 4:56 PM, Boca BIlls said: They finally got smart and realized Philip would never do it for them. Finally? The Chargers rode him untill there was nothing left. Rivers will be known as basically a decent QB, but never great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: Finally? The Chargers rode him untill there was nothing left. Rivers will be known as basically a decent QB, but never great. Rivers will be known as the QB that couldn't get out of his own way... Always making critical mistakes in the worst of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 On 1/27/2020 at 5:23 PM, Utah John said: If he's living in extreme NW Florida, the closest NFL franchise to his home would be New Orleans. It would be ironic if we had the Rivers-Brees contest all over again, but I really don't think NO will do anything with Brees until Brees says he's done. Rivers is a tough sell. He thinks he's still a starting QB and will want to get paid like one, and will not be content to be a backup somewhere. I think he'll end up just sitting until some team that figures it's ready to win right now loses its starting QB to injury, and needs to find the right short-term replacement. 4308 32tds 12ints 105.5 qb rating Phillip Rivers 2018 season I don’t think he is as done as some of you think. He had a season that wasn’t so great but not completely terrible and you want to act like he’s been declining for years. I hope he doesn’t sign with NE. On 1/28/2020 at 4:29 PM, GreggTX said: I wish he was coming to the Bills. Add a #1 WR, RT, G and a backup RB if Wade doesn't pan out and we could be headed back to the SB. I will be plenty satisfied getting there with Josh in the next year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 5:39 PM, turftoe said: Some team is going to sign Mariota in free agency. I just hope it's not the Patriots. I want them to spend a #1 pick on a project QB. Could see Mariota landing with the Chargers or maybe Colts. In the right setting, he could be a comeback story. Frank Reich did wonders with Nick Foles. I hope that NE signs anyone but Rivers. Rivers is far from done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: I hope that NE signs anyone but Rivers. Rivers is far from done. Rivers is done. He’s the main reason the chargers went 5-11 this year 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 43 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Rivers is done. He’s the main reason the chargers went 5-11 this year Silly me. Here I was thinking that it was a piss poor Oline and an inability to run the ball. He wasn’t awful this season and I think you may want to take a look at his 2018 season. Come back to me when you actually know what you’re talking about and not just looking at one stat. The Ints were high this year but an 88 QB rating doesn’t say it’s all his fault. Maybe there is a reason he wants out of LA. I remember when people thought Warner was done. He will end up in Tenn, NE, Tampa or Indy. We should revisit this at the end of 2020. Rivers is the #1 QB on the market this offseason not Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Silly me. Here I was thinking that it was a piss poor Oline and an inability to run the ball. He wasn’t awful this season and I think you may want to take a look at his 2018 season. Come back to me when you actually know what you’re talking about and not just looking at one stat. The Ints were high this year but an 88 QB rating doesn’t say it’s all his fault. Maybe there is a reason he wants out of LA. I remember when people thought Warner was done. He will end up in Tenn, NE, Tampa or Indy. We should revisit this at the end of 2020. Rivers is the #1 QB on the market this offseason not Brady. Well chances are he ends up on either Miami or Tampa. He’s not signing anywhere else since he’s relocated his family to Florida. And yes he is the reason they went 5-11. He threw 20 INTs this year genius and technically he was one of the worst starting QBS in 2019. I’m sorry the guys a bum and always has been, should’ve kept Brees. Probably would’ve won 2-3 Super Bowls with those teams Rivers had. Granted their o line didn’t play well but I’ve seen QBs adapt and try to find ways to win. Fitzpatrick had a horrible if not the worst o line in Miami and he still managed to get it done with the lack of talent they have in Miami. Rivers has no excuse due to him having some great WRs to throw to. You can’t win if you keep throwing to the other team which Rivers is known for Edited February 3, 2020 by BuffaloBills1998 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DCOrange Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) The O-Line and Rivers (largely due to the O-Line but also because his arm wears down every season) were the worst parts of the Chargers this year. I truly think they would have been better off starting Tyrod. He at least could have helped negate the poor O-Line play a little bit. Edited February 3, 2020 by DCOrange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 10 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Well chances are he ends up on either Miami or Tampa. He’s not signing anywhere else since he’s relocated his family to Florida. And yes he is the reason they went 5-11. He threw 20 INTs this year genius and technically he was one of the worst starting QBS in 2019. I’m sorry the guys a bum and always has been, should’ve kept Brees. Probably would’ve won 2-3 Super Bowls with those teams Rivers had. Granted their o line didn’t play well but I’ve seen QBs adapt and try to find ways to win. Fitzpatrick had a horrible if not the worst o line in Miami and he still managed to get it done with the lack of talent they have in Miami. Rivers has no excuse due to him having some great WRs to throw to. You can’t win if you keep throwing to the other team which Rivers is known for Didn’t bother looking at 2018 or what you saw kinda ruined your narrative. Which was it. Trying to compare Fitzpatrick to Rivers is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 3 hours ago, thebandit27 said: Thank you for the reminder of what a tough, tough gritty player he was 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Didn’t bother looking at 2018 or what you saw kinda ruined your narrative. Which was it. Trying to compare Fitzpatrick to Rivers is a joke. 10 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Well chances are he ends up on either Miami or Tampa. He’s not signing anywhere else since he’s relocated his family to Florida. And yes he is the reason they went 5-11. He threw 20 INTs this year genius and technically he was one of the worst starting QBS in 2019. I’m sorry the guys a bum and always has been, should’ve kept Brees. Probably would’ve won 2-3 Super Bowls with those teams Rivers had. Granted their o line didn’t play well but I’ve seen QBs adapt and try to find ways to win. Fitzpatrick had a horrible if not the worst o line in Miami and he still managed to get it done with the lack of talent they have in Miami. Rivers has no excuse due to him having some great WRs to throw to. You can’t win if you keep throwing to the other team which Rivers is known for More yards and touchdowns than Elway, Moon, Fouts, Montana, Kelly, Aikman and Warner. More wins than Eli, Bradshaw, Aikman, Moon, Kelly, Stabler and Young. Lower interception percentage than both Mannings, Marino, Warner, and Favre. Rivers was a very good to great Quarterback, one of the best to ever play. Comparing him to FItzpatrick in anyway is asinine. He was bad this year, so was his team. I think he can give a team one to two more decent years while they groom a rookie. Edited February 3, 2020 by thenorthremembers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) Rivers has always reminded very much of Bledsoe. Edited February 3, 2020 by NC Book 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, NC Book said: Rivers has always reminded very much of Bledsoe. Very much so. Bledsoe himself was very inconsistent most of his career, I had a feeling he wasn’t going to do much when we signed him. I appreciate and respect his efforts here but he wasn’t the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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