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Rivers could also be nice bridge QB in Carolina. 

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2 hours ago, Pete said:

Would be great backup for Josh. 

I don't think you want that personality in the Buffalo locker room.

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49 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I'm already loving this QB free agent offseason. 

Brady, Rivers, Bridgewater, Dalton -- let's saw you're a team that thinks (remember, most teams that think this are delusional) that they are one accomplished veteran QB away from competing for a Super Bowl. Maybe you're the Bucs, or the Steelers (if Ben doesn't make it back, or doesn't make it back on schedule), or the Colts (if you've seen enough of Brissette), or the Bears (ditto Trubisky). Which one do you go with? Assuming they all fit within your cap structure, which they (Brady) probably won't. Is it a different guy that's the right fit for each team?

 

Don't forget Cam in there too.  Though who knows what the Panthers will end up doing

 

 

46 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

And that's the way it is with most all-time greats at their position. They just aren't interested in playing the "mentor ready to hand the job off to a protege" role. I remember in baseball when Troy Tulowitzki, the always-injured formerly great SS, was asked this about his soon-to-be replacement, Trevor Story. He answered honestly with a kind of brush-off to the reporter, essentially saying that he had no interest in that. Maybe Eli was good with Daniel Jones, but Eli was not all-time great. Peyton was supposedly helpful to Brock Osweiler (if he was, you'd never know it from Brock's play), but he had no interest in sticking around as a backup after that lucky SB win.

 

True, though Brady seems to be one of the worst in that respect.  From all accounts, he drove Jimmy G out of town.  How many others can claim that!

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2 hours ago, DCOrange said:

 

If the rumors of where he moved to are true, Nashville, New Orleans, and Atlanta are all closer to his new home than the Florida teams. He's not really close to any NFL team. Would be like driving in from NYC to play for the Bills every day.


That’s not completely accurate except for Atlanta as you’re right Destin is closer to ATL, but there are non stop 30 minutes flights to Tampa.  Tampa is the perfect spot for him as Arians made Palmer a huge success at the end of his career, and would love to move on from Winston like every single Bucs fan.

 

Winston is not getting better.  If he signed, the Bucs wouldn’t have to give Winston another year for $20 mil.  The Bucs had the #3 overall offense, #1 in the pass, and yes would need to improve in the rush game, but part of that is they played from behind quite often.  They also have the #1 rush defense, but sucked in pass defense.  It makes sense as the secondary sucks down here.  Rivers would be perfect.  Before anyone says anything to me about a Bucs fan, I am as I’ve lived here half my life, but never over my Bills.  I root for the Bucs every game, except once every four years when they play the Bills.  I’ve been to every Tampa, Bills game since 93, and worn my Bills jersey every time.

 

I do agree they should draft a QB as well as LA chargers, but could easily see Brady going to LA. For both guys it’s probably just a 2 year contract and help develop the young guy like Garropolo did under Brady and is now the starter in the SB.

 

I’ve always liked Rivers, and a big part of his problem kind of like Eli is he’s had a weak team around him.  That’s my two cents.  If his family is in Birmingham, that’s also a very short trip non stop from Tampa.  I just can’t see him wanting to go to two developing or weaker teams like Jax and Miami.  ATL, nor New Orleans wouldn’t want him with their current QB’s not to mention the dead cap $ if either wanted to move on from their QB’s, especially NO as they have their next QB already on their roster.

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2 hours ago, wagon127 said:

Its too perfect of an idea for Brady to go there. Play in his home state, anchor the LA fan base to being Charger fans in the new stadium. And Brady then mentors whoever the new guy or young guy would be there. Trying not to get too excited.


Absolutely not. Every great QB plays for about 2 years past their true retirement age. During this time, they become a huge liability for their team. For what we’ve been through for the last 2 decades, we deserve every minute of that glorious downfall. I don’t want him out of the AFC East. 

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1 hour ago, Utah John said:

If he's living in extreme NW Florida, the closest NFL franchise to his home would be New Orleans.  It would be ironic if we had the Rivers-Brees contest all over again, but I really don't think NO will do anything with Brees until Brees says he's done.

 

Rivers is a tough sell.  He thinks he's still a starting QB and will want to get paid like one, and will not be content to be a backup somewhere.  I think he'll end up just sitting until some team that figures it's ready to win right now loses its starting QB to injury, and needs to find the right short-term replacement.

 

I could very well see this happening. One way or another, I think he plays somewhere next year.

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2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

Man, this just seems so cold..not that they are moving on, just the way it is coming out. Shades of February 99 i guess....cmon teams, yall can do better than this

I appreciate the sentiment, but there is really no delicate way of cutting ties with a long time player who still wants to play in the league even if you don’t want him. 
 

I’m sure that when he hangs ‘em up, the Charters will give him a proper ceremony. 

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2 minutes ago, Saint Doug said:


Absolutely not. Every great QB plays for about 2 years past their true retirement age. During this time, they become a huge liability for their team. For what we’ve been through for the last 2 decades, we deserve every minute of that glorious downfall. I don’t want him out of the AFC East. 

 

So are you saying you liked to see the Bills finally be able to slap him around a little bit ?

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Brady will go to the Chargers.  Rivers will go to Tennessee or Tampa.  Tennessee would be the smarter play, as I don’t see a closer comp in the league to Rivers than Winston.  Bridgewater or Dalton would be solid fits in Tampa.

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24 minutes ago, Saint Doug said:


Absolutely not. Every great QB plays for about 2 years past their true retirement age. During this time, they become a huge liability for their team. For what we’ve been through for the last 2 decades, we deserve every minute of that glorious downfall. I don’t want him out of the AFC East. 

I dunno about that 2 years too long. There were a bunch of sad old QBs trying to squeeze out another year many years ago: Joe Namath, LA Rams; Johnny Unitas, Chargers. And a bunch more I’ve long forgotten. But the last few greats or very goods seem to fare ok: Favre with the Jets/Vikes (better than you remember!), even Montana with the Chiefs (actually really good), not to mention Peyton with the Broncos (great for 3 years, just barely good enough to win a SB in the 4th). I kind of like watching these end of career experiments. My guess (and I hate to say it): I think Brady has a couple good years left in him and he’d play better with the weapons Tampa or even the Chargers have. And yes, get him out of our division, whatever it takes. I’ll take my chances with Jarrett Stidham. (Now watch them get the best available QB out there)

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Nashville is a 1 hour and 15 minute flight from Pensacola, Fl ...

 

Nashville, TN—Pensacola, FL

Nonstop (2 per day1 h 15 min
Round trip price, Feb 12 – 16 from $253
 
I think Rivers might have the $$$ somewhere to make that happen.

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3 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

Would the Bears be a possibility for Rivers?

 

I have been reading that they arent ready to give up on Trubisky yet but maybe they should..

why. It hasn't all been Tubisky;s fault.  They took away his run game and playmakers.   The Khalil mack trade is hurting to bring in talent for the offense...I hope Beane doesn't do something like that...Josh will then be in the same boat.

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I hope the Chargers jump the Fins and take Tua.

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If he still wants to play, he'll find a taker.  And it doesn't matter where.  All this talk about his moving to Florida being meaningful actually only means one obvious thing: he's near retirement.

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Honestly it’s too early to give up on Josh Rosen IMHO. He’s been put into two terrible situations and one of the best things for him would be to sit another year and let Rivers lead the Miami team for a year. If the Fins could do that and get him to buy in for one more year, it might help both the franchise and Rosen in his development.

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4 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

Bruce Arians might the perfect coach for Rivers right now...

 

After playing for 16 years, not sure the Rivers is just lacking a certain HC at this point....

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4 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

Man, this just seems so cold..not that they are moving on, just the way it is coming out. Shades of February 99 i guess....cmon teams, yall can do better than this

 

Yeah, you would think the team would make a respectful announcement, thank Rivers, say a few polite and complimentary things about the last 16 seasons, wish him the best.   Though maybe that was their intent, and it got leaked.

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He would make the Colts and Buccaneers instant conference championship contenders.  Bears too probably but we don't know how well he would handle the elements of Chicago and Green Bay.  

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8 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said:

Honestly it’s too early to give up on Josh Rosen IMHO. He’s been put into two terrible situations and one of the best things for him would be to sit another year and let Rivers lead the Miami team for a year. If the Fins could do that and get him to buy in for one more year, it might help both the franchise and Rosen in his development.

 

I don't think Miami has Fitzy under contract and hired Chan Gailey so that they could bring in Rivers.

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Chargers should consider trading for Rosen.  He can probably be had for a 2nd or 3rd rounder. 

 

He's a Cali boy, still only 22.  The table is set for him in LA with talent-a-plenty and a very good offensive mind, in Anthony Lynn.

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I honestly believe he will have a very tough time finding a suitor for the 20 or so mil it would cost to sign him.

 

His demands would be considered "diva" behavior if he weren't a (sort of) beloved tenured QUARTERBACK.

 

Team's are willing to put up with the demands as long as the player is elite. Once that is no longer the case, the demands suddenly become a non starter.

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4 hours ago, DCOrange said:

If the rumors of where he moved to are true, Nashville, New Orleans, and Atlanta are all closer to his new home than the Florida teams. He's not really close to any NFL team. Would be like driving in from NYC to play for the Bills every day.

 

Mmmmm.... Tampa about same distance as Tenn?  Jax about same distance as Atlanta.

 

I'm thinking he's talking to Tampa Bay or Jax.  I'm sure he'd get a condo for during the week, but it would be close enough he could potentially get home for a day off.

 

Do they have any interest would be the question?

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

Chargers should consider trading for Rosen.  He can probably be had for a 2nd or 3rd rounder. 

 

He's a Cali boy, still only 22.  The table is set for him in LA with talent-a-plenty and a very good offensive mind, in Anthony Lynn.

 

Rosen has to show something, anything, before anyone is going to look at him as more than a prayer. He’s got value, but I don’t think anyone relies on him as their starter at this point. 

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