Mrbojanglezs Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I didn't expect Daboll to have any chance at all. I'd still consider him the underdog but this could really happen. I would be more upset losing Joe than Daboll. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 The Browns have requested an interview with Colts assistant GM Ed Dodds to fill their GM spot, NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported Saturday, per a source informed of the situation. As the Browns continue the search for their newest head coach, they interviewed eight potential hires, including 49ers defensive coordinator Robert Saleh. Saleh is said to be interested in Dodds, among other potential GMs, to be paired with, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whkfc Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just now, Scott7975 said: The Browns have requested an interview with Colts assistant GM Ed Dodds to fill their GM spot, NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported Saturday, per a source informed of the situation. As the Browns continue the search for their newest head coach, they interviewed eight potential hires, including 49ers defensive coordinator Robert Saleh. Saleh is said to be interested in Dodds, among other potential GMs, to be paired with, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported. People are starting to follow the Bill's model it looks like. Get your coach and have him recommend the GM he would like to work with. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 It seems like the browns are all over the place in their coaching + GM search. I just hope they pilfer another team. I’ll be pissed if they mess with what we have going, only to fire Schoen and Daboll in a year or two (which seems like a pretty realistic possibility). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, Whkfc said: People are starting to follow the Bill's model it looks like. Get your coach and have him recommend the GM he would like to work with. I still kinda hate this model. It gives the coach way too much power. And time and time again, besides like Belichick, coaches with too much power often fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 its so hard to judge bills' o coordinators...they seem like crap when having to deal with our qbs . then we run them outta town & they go to other teams and look like geniuses 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tcali said: its so hard to judge bills' o coordinators...they seem like crap when having to deal with our qbs . then we run them outta town & they go to other teams and look like geniuses Well the good news is Daboll has been like crap his whole career. Super smart guy I’m sure but the results say he is a bad OC. I hope they hire him. Get a creative young mind. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Well the good news is Daboll has been like crap his whole career. Super smart guy I’m sure but the results say he is a bad OC. I hope they hire him. Get a creative young mind. thats a good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 50 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Many of those plays are run-pass options Josh has chosen pass. Or were you in huddle and we did not see you? I was. I'm much smaller than those dudes, so I can see how you misses me. My retort would be, how do you know many of those plays were run-pass options. Were you in the huddle also, I didn't see you in there? If you were, we should've went and got a drink afterwards.? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Mrbojanglezs said: I would be more upset losing Joe than Daboll. I think losing the OC after two seasons with Josh and losing a prominent front office figure is reason enough to want Daboll back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: I was. I'm much smaller than those dudes, so I can see how you misses me. My retort would be, how do you know many of those plays were run-pass options. Were you in the huddle also, I didn't see you in there? If you were, we should've went and got a drink afterwards.? They are run-pass options because the Bills have said so. Now maybe they brought in an OC because they needed experience in lying but I take them at their word because lying is more useful if you do not use it that often and this does not seem to be a high value case. Oh if you were small you must be a WR since Bills signed smurfs since their blue skins and white outfits go well with Bills' colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin C Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I swear I have seen tweets saying that everyone who interviewed for the Browns coaching job is still a top candidate for it. Agents working OT on the weekend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 19 minutes ago, Limeaid said: They are run-pass options because the Bills have said so. Now maybe they brought in an OC because they needed experience in lying but I take them at their word because lying is more useful if you do not use it that often and this does not seem to be a high value case. Oh if you were small you must be a WR since Bills signed smurfs since their blue skins and white outfits go well with Bills' colors. Let's say you're correct in the scenario you gave and Josh was given the option of run-pass, but passed on almost every single play for the last 34+ minutes. Don't you think Duh!boll and McDermott would've gave him an earful and told him to run the damn ball? Again they never trailed until there was less than 5 minutes to go in the game. No handoffs on the 9 play drive in OT. They have a history with McDermott of running too much with a lead in the second half. That's something no one can dispute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: They have a history with McDermott of running too much with a lead in the second half. That's something no one can dispute. I do not dispute this but with changes they made (a lot more of players a lot of posters dislike) it is clear that they were attacking something they saw with scouting of Texans. It is funny and tragic how Bills have been slow start and hot 4th quarter team and in this case it was the opposite - the Bills had not adjustments to make DURING HALFTIME and the Texans made one hell of an adjustment. Maybe their head coach learned something from his former head coach on spying and locker room should have been checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I called Daboll coming after Schoen 7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Why would losing Brian Gaine again be considered to fall in our favor? What about all the conditions McDaniel is reputed to demand? I could be wrong, I often am....but for better or worse I think we see Daboll next season. I hope that right now Daboll, McDermott, and Frazier are sitting in a film room and the others are giving him unvarnished feedback about instances where his play calling appears to confuse our team more than the opponent, and from a defensive POV, just why that is. losing Gaine again would be the much better option over losing Schoen or Morgan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Mrbojanglezs said: I would be more upset losing Joe than Daboll. I think we all would but he is easily replaceable with Brian Gaine... our front office is stacked. We have 3 guys who can be potential GMs down the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Mrbojanglezs said: I would be more upset losing Joe than Daboll. Yep. Hey Brian take Gaine he as GM experience leave Schoen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: yup. reported yesterday in the other Daboll/Browns thread. he's not a finalist. Was Pettine a finalist this point? I'm not worried. Once McDaniels leaves them at the altar and a few others bow out they'll have to take who they can get, ie Daboll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillsFan4 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 52 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Stefanski then? Or Stefanski vs Saleh? maybe they’re battling for the Browns job today. Winner gets the job. Or wait, maybe it should be loser gets the job. Seems more appropriate. ? Edited January 11, 2020 by BillsFan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 3 hours ago, HappyDays said: I didn't expect Daboll to have any chance at all. I'd still consider him the underdog but this could really happen. Does anyone know if the browns actually requested permission to interview Schoen? Or is it just rumored interest? We’ve seen that they requested permission to interview 2 GM candidates connected with Stefanski + Saleh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Insert Bills leftover jokes here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I don’t think GMs should be allowed to be poached this time of year. It’s near the end of their season and they’ll be preparing for playoffs (ie the draft) very soon. I think the way we did it was the best. Got McD, but allowed Beane to finish his job in Carolina, then he get hired afterwards. If I were Beane, I would deny all interviews requested for non-HC jobs until after the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Was Pettine a finalist this point? I'm not worried. Once McDaniels leaves them at the altar and a few others bow out they'll have to take who they can get, ie Daboll. Allah be willing... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 hours ago, MAJBobby said: I called Daboll coming after Schoen losing Gaine again would be the much better option over losing Schoen or Morgan I’m not debating whether or not you are right.......but how did you formulate this opinion. I’ve read many articles on all three guys. I’ve watched a short film on Morgan. Yet I have no clue who the best guy guy is for our team. What would your scouting report on Gaine, Schoen and Morgan look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, NewEra said: I’m not debating whether or not you are right.......but how did you formulate this opinion. I’ve read many articles on all three guys. I’ve watched a short film on Morgan. Yet I have no clue who the best guy guy is for our team. What would your scouting report on Gaine, Schoen and Morgan look like? Since you’ve read about them I’m sure you know most of this but... Gaine and Morgan fill a similar role. Morgan has less experience and was actually Gaine’s replacement when he left to take over the GM mantle in Houston. Their background is in Player Personnel if I’m not mistaken. Schoen started out in Carolina as a ticket intern roughly 20 years ago and eventually interned in the scouting department. He worked his way up to a scout with the organization before moving over to Miami and eventually here. His background is more that of a traditional scout. I think it depends on what you’re looking for as an organization. Gaine has experience running the whole show, Morgan is the “hot prospect” so to speak and Schoen’s strength would be drafting. I feel we could stand to lose 1 of Gaine or Morgan and wouldn’t necessarily miss a beat because their role/skill set is somewhat redundant... if Schoen goes that’s a bigger loss IMO. We’d probably promote Lake Dawson (another future GM) to a more advanced role to fill Schoen’s spot and Gaine to Assistant GM. There is SO much talent in this front office it’s unbelievable. I like to compare it to the Boston Red Sox front office that had Theo Epstein, Ben Cherington, Mike Hazen and Jed Hoyer working together. It’s an amazing collection of talent. Edited January 12, 2020 by JGMcD2 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) All very 3rd hand but what I am being told by someone who knows someone is that Daboll is very much still in the mix. No decision yet. Stefanski also still in the mix (and possibly one other) but McDaniels unlikely to get the job. Edited January 12, 2020 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 31 minutes ago, NewEra said: I’m not debating whether or not you are right.......but how did you formulate this opinion. I’ve read many articles on all three guys. I’ve watched a short film on Morgan. Yet I have no clue who the best guy guy is for our team. What would your scouting report on Gaine, Schoen and Morgan look like? I don’t want to lose any of these guys just like I didn’t want to lose Gaine the first time, but that’s the nature of the beast. If Gaine is actually any good, which I’m assuming he is, he is likely more untouchable and likely to stick around longer in light of the rumors after his firing in Houston. But...maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, NewEra said: I’m not debating whether or not you are right.......but how did you formulate this opinion. I’ve read many articles on all three guys. I’ve watched a short film on Morgan. Yet I have no clue who the best guy guy is for our team. What would your scouting report on Gaine, Schoen and Morgan look like? Just under the assumption we have already lost Gaine once. And did just fine that offseason with the draft and UFAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Who cares it's the Browns... They will never be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: All very 3rd hand but what I am being told by someone who knows someone is that Daboll is very much still in the mix. No decision yet. Stefanski also still in the mix (and possibly one other) but McDaniels unlikely to get the job. Any idea why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: All very 3rd hand but what I am being told by someone who knows someone is that Daboll is very much still in the mix. No decision yet. Stefanski also still in the mix (and possibly one other) but McDaniels unlikely to get the job. Saleh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Forget the Vikings OC and the 49ers DC. The guy the Browns should be looking at is the Titans OC Arthur Smith. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Forget the Vikings OC and the 49ers DC. The guy the Browns should be looking at is the Titans OC Arthur Smith. Because he knows enough to run the damn ball!!!! He doesn't throw it all on his QB who he knows isn't ready for it yet!!! What used to be commonsense is now considered brilliant. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 48 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Because he knows enough to run the damn ball!!!! He doesn't throw it all on his QB who he knows isn't ready for it yet!!! What used to be commonsense is now considered brilliant. Its not just Derrick Henry and running the ball. The Titans OC took a near washed up QB that few were interested in and made him one of the best QB's in the league this season. Yes, Ryan Tannehill ex Dolphins QB with a 70.3 completion percentage. For all those that think that changing an OC will somehow hurt the "continuity" take a long hard look at the Titans for what the right OC can do! Also, look at what a potent running game can do for an offense! Ravens couldn't run that cover zero blitz against the Titans QB, not with Derrick Henry 30 rushes for 195 yards a 6.5 ypc avg. So, tell me again its a passing league... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Its not just Derrick Henry and running the ball. The Titans OC took a near washed up QB that few were interested in and made him one of the best QB's in the league this season. Yes, Ryan Tannehill ex Dolphins QB with a 70.3 completion percentage. For all those that think that changing an OC will somehow hurt the "continuity" take a long hard look at the Titans for what the right OC can do! Also, look at what a potent running game can do for an offense! Ravens couldn't run that cover zero blitz against the Titans QB, not with Derrick Henry 30 rushes for 195 yards a 6.5 ypc avg. So, tell me again its a passing league... but he didn’t throw for 300 so it doesn’t count! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Its not just Derrick Henry and running the ball. The Titans OC took a near washed up QB that few were interested in and made him one of the best QB's in the league this season. Yes, Ryan Tannehill ex Dolphins QB with a 70.3 completion percentage. For all those that think that changing an OC will somehow hurt the "continuity" take a long hard look at the Titans for what the right OC can do! Also, look at what a potent running game can do for an offense! Ravens couldn't run that cover zero blitz against the Titans QB, not with Derrick Henry 30 rushes for 195 yards a 6.5 ypc avg. So, tell me again its a passing league... But it is about Henry, they feature him and defenses are keying on stopping him, not Tannehill. They never get down much because of the strong running game and a good defense. Playing from ahead is much easier than playing from behind. Lamar didn't look anything close to what he did during the season, because he had to pass every down and the Titans knew it. He manage to throw up a bunch of yards in garbage time, but he played a really bad game when they were still in it and still had a chance to win. I've been arguing against the it's still a passing league for 2 years now. But there's a sizable crowd that still would rather see a 300 yard passing game over a 100 yard rushing game. Even though one stat has a about .500 record over the last 2 years and the other has a .725 record. Give me the latter please. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I think the Ravens take a big step back next step back next season and the Patriots are no longer dominant, though they'll probably always be competitive with Bill Bellicheck. Continuity this offseason for Allen with Daboll and the offense would be huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 5 hours ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: But it is about Henry, they feature him and defenses are keying on stopping him, not Tannehill. They never get down much because of the strong running game and a good defense. Playing from ahead is much easier than playing from behind. Tell that all to Brian Daboll against the Texans... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Any idea why? Again I am getting this all very third hand but the guy feeding me the info just said there is a mutual discomfort with the fit on a number of issues that would have to be resolved. Edited January 12, 2020 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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