Reportedly McDermott needed to be restrained in the tunnel at halftime

[DrDawkinstein]

45 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

The Schiano School for How to Alienate Your Peers and Piss Off Everyone.

 

He's had a pretty amazing run since leaving Rutgers, which has landed him a high profile job as the head coach of... er... *checks notes*... Rutgers.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

2 hours ago, Pokebball said:

No, it's more than a technical violation.  It would allow a team to change their personnel and scheme, depending who comes off the field.

good point. That said, sometimes those penalties are just caused by substitution confusion by the O more than anything. 

[1ManRaid]

10 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

terrible officiating at the end of the 1st half is my guess.  Ravens had 12 men on the field and there was no call.  Then there was the blatent PI at the end of the half, but he can't be too upset about that since he did not challenge it.  I could see challenging it, getting screwed, and then being upset.  

 

Interested to hear if there is anything more.  

 

Glad to see him fired up.  The officiating in the 1st half was terrible, much better in the 2nd.  

So what I'm reading is that anger and violence solves problems.  Good to know.  ⚔️

[iinii]

11 hours ago, dneveu said:

 

They gifted us a drive there at the end too.  

It takes a large set of onions to post that here but it looked that way to me too. 

[pennstate10]

10 hours ago, dneveu said:

 

I just felt like - its too risky with them never overturning it.  Id rather keep the Timeout which we'll need later

I disagree. That was a pretty blatant PI. The defender can go for the all,but not through the offensive player. 

 

Yes, I know theleaguedoesntwantto reverse. PI. 

 

But that one was so blatant, it was worth gambling a timeout. And after a few replays on the Jumbotron,the refs, and everone o the field, would know the refs effed up. And they'd give Bflo a makeup call 

 

McD had an extra minute between quarters to think it over. I sorta think he choked. 

[pennstate10]

7 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Ok, so you are in the camp that the DLine should go 100% in every victory formation? Ok, fair enough, see how far that gets them.

Yes they should. Against the Ravens. Put three guys on the center to blow him up. 

[Thurman#1]

15 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I assume that's this

https://21133.mc.tritondigital.com/OMNY_THEEXTRAPOINTWITHSALCAPACCIO_P/media-session/4da91b55-c136-42b0-bb97-1360255f5ec0/d/clips/4b5f9d6d-9214-48cb-8455-a73200038129/07dea503-a77f-4b13-8c65-a92b003719c6/16295cb7-0ef9-4f60-9b7c-ab1e0118bea6/audio/direct/t1575911004/12-09_HR_2_-_Extra_Point_Show_with_Sal_Capaccio.mp3?t=1575911004

 

Any idea what time in the 40 minute show

 

 

Don't know if anyone answered this yet. In case they didn't, it's around 18:45.

 

He said there was some jawing from some Ravens, he'd heard (not seen) and wasn't even sure it was McDermott who was involved.

[Thurman#1]

11 hours ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

Not sure I have ever seen anyone get that mad over a missed 12 guys in the huddle. They didn’t have 12 when they ran the play, did they? 

 

 

Having 12 guys in the huddle is a major tactical advantage for that team. Which is why it's a penalty in the first place.

 

Which guy will leave? Depending which guy leaves, the opponent might want a different personnel package in. Any coach would have been angry about that, regardless of how much it showed in his face.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

Jumpin  in late here but I had to vent: 

 

I’ve been a McD critic since day one, and I’ve been happily eating crow so far this year. Yet, one of my remaining criticisms has been that his sideline demeanor drives me nuts. It always bugged me that I seemed to be more passionate and fired up at certain times than the head coach. Obviously lots of ppl value is calm nature and positive approach to coaching, but I LOVED seeing that fire. I hope to see more of it. I think the guys rally around it when used appropriately. Being of such a general calm nature makes these blow ups even more meaningful to the guys. 
 

Way to go, McD 

[NoSaint]

28 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Jumpin  in late here but I had to vent: 

 

I’ve been a McD critic since day one, and I’ve been happily eating crow so far this year. Yet, one of my remaining criticisms has been that his sideline demeanor drives me nuts. It always bugged me that I seemed to be more passionate and fired up at certain times than the head coach. Obviously lots of ppl value is calm nature and positive approach to coaching, but I LOVED seeing that fire. I hope to see more of it. I think the guys rally around it when used appropriately. Being of such a general calm nature makes these blow ups even more meaningful to the guys. 
 

Way to go, McD 

this posters name checks out, guys

[Markaf431]

13 hours ago, BuffaloBill963 said:

There was zero snark in my reply. Everything I said was spot on and sincere.

 

 

Spot on implies you have facts to back your statements.  Produce your facts, if not everything you said is an opinion

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

McDermott is a fiery guy, don't let the clapping fool you.

[Cripple Creek]

20 hours ago, mannc said:

Maybe he wanted to go after Harbaugh for the fake kneel-down.

Hope not, that would be chicken ***** of him.

[BuffaloBill963]

7 hours ago, Markaf431 said:

 

 

Spot on implies you have facts to back your statements.  Produce your facts, if not everything you said is an opinion

 

You can infer whatever you want from my statement, but I’m not wasting time w people who have hostile aggressive attitudes like you. You’re already preset against my stance. But for sure keep believing that the ref situation isn’t intentional on the NFL’s part. 

[RiotAct]

I agree that it’s more than high time to move towards full-time (and better compensated) officials.  Lord knows the NFL can afford it.

[Markaf431]

50 minutes ago, BuffaloBill963 said:

You can infer whatever you want from my statement, but I’m not wasting time w people who have hostile aggressive attitudes like you. You’re already preset against my stance. But for sure keep believing that the ref situation isn’t intentional on the NFL’s part. 

 

 

Proving you have nothing because you go on the defensive when asked to prove your statement.  Yeah you've got nothing.  

[BobbyC81]

On 12/9/2019 at 9:10 AM, RyanC883 said:

 

The part-time thing does not bother me as much as the fact they are awful.  I'm not sure, but I think college FB is part-time as well.  The problem is that there is zero accountability apparently besides not getting the "big games."  And who is grading them.  I mean, missing 12 men in a huddle should be a fine.  plain and simple.  

 

I'm in the minority and didn't mind it.  It's against the Bills defense, the Ravens know they needed points, and there was a chance at catching the D sleeping.  Reminded me of Marino (I think) faking the clocking years ago.  

I agree.  It was just gamesmanship.  Just like when a team is in victory formation and a defender pushes through.  I like that they don’t just accept defeat.  Maybe they could cause a fumble.

[Augie]

On 12/9/2019 at 11:37 AM, HOUSE said:

Broken clapper, it could happen to anyone

 

Probably just out of warranty, too. Isn’t that always how it goes? 

 

 

.

Edited December 10, 2019 by Augie

[row_33]

19 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

The Schiano School for How to Alienate Your Peers and Piss Off Everyone.

 

Schinao?

 

Who?

 

A school you say?

 

 

[Jauronimo]

6 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

Schinao?

 

Who?

 

A school you say?

 

 

Greg Schiano.  Look him up. He coached the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and was known for his situational football acumen and highly aggressive defenses.  Schiano revolutionized the way defenses counter the victory formation and is to this day considered a total ####### by everyone including his own mother.

[mannc]

9 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Greg Schiano.  Look him up. He coached the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and was known for his situational football acumen and highly aggressive defenses.  Schiano revolutionized the way defenses counter the victory formation and is to this day considered a total ####### by everyone including his own mother.

???

[Agent 91]

On 12/9/2019 at 6:47 PM, MJS said:

But there were justifiable reasons for those calls.

It just goes both ways

[thunderingsquid]

The Ravens DBS assaulted our wrs, brown and Beasley needed rape kits.  The refs were nowhere to be found.

[WideNine]

5 minutes ago, thunderingsquid said:

The Ravens DBS assaulted our wrs, brown and Beasley needed rape kits.  The refs were nowhere to be found.

 

Mcdermott mentioned a few weeks ago that they scout the next officiating crew for their tendencies. Just meant that our DBs could have gotten grabby too, although that is a risky approach against the multi TE formations they run - advantage Ravens.

 

 

[Thurman#1]

On 12/11/2019 at 4:41 AM, BuffaloBill963 said:

You can infer whatever you want from my statement, but I’m not wasting time w people who have hostile aggressive attitudes like you. You’re already preset against my stance. But for sure keep believing that the ref situation isn’t intentional on the NFL’s part. 

 

 

... as absolutely anyone with any sense would.

 

There's essentially one and only one way to keep a conspiracy from becoming known. Keep it to an extremely small group of people. When a lot of people know, it will come out sooner or later. And to have the refs trying to affect games would mean the knowledge of, what?, 50 people? All those different crews?

 

We'd already know.

Edited December 12, 2019 by Thurman#1

[BuffaloBill963]

20 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

... as absolutely anyone with any sense would.

 

There's essentially one and only one way to keep a conspiracy from becoming known. Keep it to an extremely small group of people. When a lot of people know, it will come out sooner or later. And to have the refs trying to affect games would mean the knowledge of, what?, 50 people? All those different crews?

 

We'd already know.

Wow. Ahahahahah. Love people like you?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

23 hours ago, thunderingsquid said:

The Ravens DBS assaulted our wrs, brown and Beasley needed rape kits.  The refs were nowhere to be found.

 

There’s some truth to that.  OTOH some games the refs do that.  The problem is our guys really are “smurfs”, they’re easier to impact than a 6’2” guy

[thunderingsquid]

But you gotta admit it was obvious who McMahon...er... Goodell wanted to win that game.

Edited December 13, 2019 by thunderingsquid

[folz]

22 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

... as absolutely anyone with any sense would.

 

There's essentially one and only one way to keep a conspiracy from becoming known. Keep it to an extremely small group of people. When a lot of people know, it will come out sooner or later. And to have the refs trying to affect games would mean the knowledge of, what?, 50 people? All those different crews?

 

We'd already know.

 

That is the standard comeback to any "conspiracy theory." And it is completely inaccurate.

 

[Thurman#1]

5 hours ago, BuffaloBill963 said:

Wow. Ahahahahah. Love people like you?

 

 

As you should. I'll send you my PayPal account and you can send some cash for being right.

 

 

2 hours ago, folz said:

 

That is the standard comeback to any "conspiracy theory." And it is completely inaccurate.

 

 

 

The reason it's standard is that it's correct.

 

If there's one thing history shows it's that people aren't good at keeping secrets, most particularly when book contracts beckon. The only conspiracies that work are tiny ones. (With the exception of large patriotically-based secrets like the Enigma machine or the code-talkers. People will shut up in large numbers for the good of their country. But to steal money and undermine the honesty of a sport? Please!! It would already be out.)

 

The ones that have tons of people working away on them and still stay secret ... are imaginary, and that makes the conspiracy nuts come a-running.

Edited December 13, 2019 by Thurman#1

[row_33]

On 12/12/2019 at 1:05 AM, WideNine said:

 

Mcdermott mentioned a few weeks ago that they scout the next officiating crew for their tendencies. Just meant that our DBs could have gotten grabby too, although that is a risky approach against the multi TE formations they run - advantage Ravens.

 

 

 

every local NFL radio broadcast tells you the officiating crew tendencies

 

no need to pretend research more deep than Einstein or Marie Curie had to undergo... 

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

On 12/12/2019 at 12:44 AM, thunderingsquid said:

The Ravens DBS assaulted our wrs, brown and Beasley needed rape kits.  The refs were nowhere to be found.

 

This very inconsistency on the leagues part has a lot to do with the week to week parity I think we see

[Tenhigh]

On ‎12‎/‎10‎/‎2019 at 6:22 AM, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Jumpin  in late here but I had to vent: 

 

I’ve been a McD critic since day one, and I’ve been happily eating crow so far this year. Yet, one of my remaining criticisms has been that his sideline demeanor drives me nuts. It always bugged me that I seemed to be more passionate and fired up at certain times than the head coach. Obviously lots of ppl value is calm nature and positive approach to coaching, but I LOVED seeing that fire. I hope to see more of it. I think the guys rally around it when used appropriately. Being of such a general calm nature makes these blow ups even more meaningful to the guys. 
 

Way to go, McD 

Captain McClappy, Tunnel Avenger?

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

On 12/9/2019 at 3:08 PM, BuffaloBill963 said:

You want the real explanation? Or like everyone else are you going to schluff it off and act like this is impossible?

 

The NFL is highly scripted. Vegas is a very important aspect of this. You guys are all confused bc you don’t know who actually controls the NFL and what their agenda is. 

 

You our make a great and obvious point—how can such a ridiculously profitable organization seemingly not be able to figure out how to improve their referee issue? It’s bc they don’t want to. And you all just buy the excuse that they’re humans who make mistakes and it’s a fast game and they’re just not good blah blah blah. 

 

This is allows them to steer games very effectively without any traction being gained to the argument that they’re rigging this. 

 

Use the the hottest two word term going and say I’m crazy but this is how it works. Don’t believe me? Get used to being angry and confused about this.

 

I certainly have question on how  deliberately they are influencing the game outcomes. 

 

The Patriots Dynasty is probably the one thing I can’t seem to explain. There have been far more popular match up possibilities over at least the past few years that would seem better for the sport.  The league needs a new wave of stars badly, Mahomes was the guy everyone wanted to see in the Super Bowl. Or at least Brees vs Brady.

 

Pats Rams seems like the worst option. 

 

I’m much more inclined to belive there’s a subtle influence with ref tendencies and match ups as well as points of emphasis for the week, that are deliberate but kept quiet rather than outright scripting and rigging.