Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Agree OP. If there are ever moral victories it was today's game. Poor execution across the board from Allen, to big drops by Beasley and Knox, poor blocking by the line. Inexcusably letting a 270lbs TE out run the entire defense for a 60 yard TD. But we still had our shot in the end against hands down the best team in the league. Next week will be the game really have to have. There won't be any moral victory opportunities against the Steelers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Personally I don't think this was anything like the Browns game. The Browns was a game we should have won against a team we are better than and we ballsed it up. This was always a very tough game. We had some chances but overall our offensive execution just wasn't quite where it needed to be. More about the sky is falling follies from the emotionally fragile. But I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 We were legit before this game even started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinES3 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 20 minutes ago, Process said: I don't mind the loss... Allens play was very concerning. Still, we are in good shape and this team could easily win a playoff game. Progress. Did you happen to watch the O-line play? That was concerning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bigantall said: Catches up? Man we have three games left there isnt any catching up the offense is what it is I wasn’t necessarily talking about this year. On the other hand, the offense has looked pretty good the last three games. I’m not giving up on it just because of a poor game today. Are you? To me that is not a rational position but just reacting to the negative emotions after a loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Draft priority List: 1- Wide received that can make contested catches 2- RT 3- see 1 and 2 DE probably x2 after they let Shaq walk for some reason. Hughes is toast and Murphy is a liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The 2 true best teams played each other today 48-46. I forgot who’d the Niners play last week? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 So many dropped passes... But, I figured this would be a tough one to win anyway. On to the next one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Our defense is certainly legit. Feel like we already knew that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinES3 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 All I want for Christmas is a 6'4" #1 receiver...and maybe a better pass protecting tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 26 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: This was a tough one against the best team in the league...but 3 of our 4 losses went down to the 4th quarter 2 going to the final play...we aren’t super bowl caliber yet but man this is the best I’ve felt about this franchise going forward since the Kelly days I disagree with title OP...the DEFENSE is legit...the offense is not.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The 2 true best teams played each other today 48-46. One of those just got beat by the Ravens last week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 They are a good team but flawed. Allen is a year away. OL still has serious issues. I don't think any of the 5 had a good game today. TE continues to be an issue with no consistency and no dominant play. DL can't generate enough pressure. Run defense is solid and pass defense is ok ( could be spectacular if they had any consistent pass rush). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinES3 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Billever76 said: Did you not watch the game..the oline was absolutely horrible..probably their worst pass blocking game of the year They were horrid. Absolutely unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said: I forgot who’d the Niners play last week? Lost a close one to the Ravens, as you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, SmokinES3 said: All I want for Christmas is a 6'4" #1 receiver...and maybe a better pass protecting tackle. That literally costs millions and millions of dollars, so I don't think anyone you know can afford such a lavish Christmas gift. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Draft priority List: 1- Wide received that can make contested catches 2- RT 3- see 1 and 2 Not saying Duke is gonna be the next Randy Moss or anything and there’s a reason he’s been inactive but his hands and size would have helped today Edited December 8, 2019 by Not at the table Karlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, MJS said: One of those just got beat by the Ravens last week... Yes. Doesn't change my claim. SF, today, is the best team in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, Not at the table Karlos said: Not saying Duke is gonna be the next Randy Moss and there’s a reason he’s been inactive but his hands and size would have helped today Probably not. He's a fringe roster WR. Just now, Mr. WEO said: Yes. Doesn't change my claim. SF, today, is the best team in the league. You can claim it, but the evidence supports the Ravens over the 49ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) I agree the team looks good going forward. As for this year, I have a hard time seeing them putting together a legit run for a Championship, or even being anything other than one and done... Hopefully I am very wrong, and this team can step up to the plate and go get a quality win next week. Steelers shouldn’t be able to move the ball on this defense, if they get anything more than 17 points I will be disappointed. Allen needs to hit those deep throws. I know all QBs miss them, but these are difference makers. They put points on the board, open up the defense, and demoralize the defense. He has to start hitting these big time throws if they are going to win these tough games. The intermediate stuff is great, and probably the most important component to sustained success, but it doesn’t negate the importance of being able to deliver a consistently catchable deep ball. Edited December 8, 2019 by Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, MJS said: Probably not. He's a fringe roster WR. Yeah but his hands have shown to be better than what we had on the field today. Edited December 8, 2019 by Not at the table Karlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 20 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I disagree with your second sentence. This game, Philly, NE, are what the playoff game is going to look like. Allen will struggle against good teams and only good teams play in the playoffs. Folks read too much into the Dallas win. It was a big win for the franchise as a whole, but don't draw too much from Allen's performance. Dallas is not a good team and will not be in the playoffs. Texans and Chiefs are not New England and Baltimore. Chiefs and Texans would be our likely wild card opponents. They both have bad defenses. Which plays into our strength since our defense can limit their offenses and our offense can move the ball against bad defenses. We lose by 6 to the Patriots and 7 to the Ravens, two teams that match up well against us and you don't think we can beat the Texans (or any other team that wins that division) or the Chiefs? Look, it's the playoffs, of course we could lose, but I would fully expect us to have as good a chance as any team playing wild card weekend to win. Allen struggles against good defenses. Not surprising. The MVP today didn't exactly move the ball against a good defense either. One short field and one busted coverage. The only teams we might possibly play wild card weekend that have good defenses, Titans and Colts, have suspect offenses. So again, we will have a good chance either way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, MJS said: Probably not. He's a fringe roster WR. You can claim it, but the evidence supports the Ravens over the 49ers. If the Ravens lost to the Bills today, would you still say the Ravens are the best in the league because of a win they had last week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I guess it depends on what you consider legit. The Bills have shown they can play close games with better teams because of their defense. They havent shown they can beat better teams because of their offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) Legit? Probably going too far. This team is still very limited offensively Baltimore was ripe for a loss. Good teams win that game at home. We just aren’t quite there yet. Edited December 8, 2019 by CaptnCoke11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 D is really good. The offense is not. O-Line still needs upgrading and a true #1 receiver. Also need much better accuracy from the QB position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 The Bills are defiantly a good team and playoff worthy. What worries me is that anytime they play a good D the game will be very close and they can easily lose to teams who, overall, aren’t as good. The Bills are a more complete team than the Steelers but that game worries me because they cause turnovers and play very, very good D. Will we see a repeat performance from today’s O? Much like today, one miscue on D could be the nail in the coffin. The O’s deficiencies means the D has to play nearly perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 31 minutes ago, zow2 said: I’m emotional. Allen sucked, the receivers mostly sucked too. The Ravens are better in every category and we should thank the refs for some of those points today because they kept drives alive that were snuffed out. Oh yeah? What about the non call PI that would’ve put Buffalo deep in the Ravens territory when they were down 1 score? Those types of calls decide games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: If the Ravens lost to the Bills today, would you still say the Ravens are the best in the league because of a win they had last week? They won today. They lead the AFC and beat the "best" team in NFC. Pretty clear they are the best team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: If the Ravens lost to the Bills today, would you still say the Ravens are the best in the league because of a win they had last week? Ravens have a ton of quality wins during their winning streak and half of them were blowout victories. I would say, yes, even with a loss today they could easily still be in the running for best in the league. @ Seattle vs. New England vs. Texans @ Rams vs. 49ers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: This was a tough one against the best team in the league...but 3 of our 4 losses went down to the 4th quarter 2 going to the final play...we aren’t super bowl caliber yet but man this is the best I’ve felt about this franchise going forward since the Kelly days We are legit if we beat the Steelers in their place and turn historical performance on its head. I'm not going to sing kum ba yah and then turn around and see us blow a spot for the playoffs because once again we can't beat a depleted Steelers team. This season the Bills have exceeded expectations, but our target win must be at Heinz Field. See you there! EOBF Edited December 8, 2019 by EasternOHBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 A win there wouldve been huge but honestly we cant get that upset today. Proved we could hang with the big boys. Ravens have a great d and run game and both of those travel. but they are just as likely to get beat in the divisional as they are to get to the super bowl imo. Somebody is going to get a lead and make jackson a thrower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 42 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: This was a tough one against the best team in the league...but 3 of our 4 losses went down to the 4th quarter 2 going to the final play...we aren’t super bowl caliber yet but man this is the best I’ve felt about this franchise going forward since the Kelly days This was my takeaway as well. The Bills are “playoff caliber” but not “super Bowl caiber” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Oh yeah? What about the non call PI that would’ve put Buffalo deep in the Ravens territory when they were down 1 score? Those types of calls decide games If you have been a Bills fan for more than a minute, you'd know getting jobbed by the refs is a yearly occurrence and we always have to play through it. ALWAYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, MJS said: They won today. They lead the AFC and beat the "best" team in NFC. Pretty clear they are the best team. Ok ,they are the "best". You win. 3 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Ravens have a ton of quality wins during their winning streak and half of them were blowout victories. I would say, yes, even with a loss today they could easily still be in the running for best in the league. @ Seattle vs. New England vs. Texans @ Rams vs. 49ers In the running for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 41 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: We can hang with anyone. We need a few extra pieces and more improvement from our QB to be able to go the next stage and BEAT anybody. Reasons to be encouraged. The sky is not falling. Baltimore's defensive line consistently applied pressure on Josh. They are good. But the most impressive part of Baltimore's defense was the play of their defensive backfield. Peters pass defense on our last place play was clutch and a gem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 We may have limited Jackson better than any team in their current winning streak-- remember that it was pouring rain vs. the 49ers. Our defense is amazing. On that note: Star, White, Shaq, Lorax, Hughs, Oliver, Edmunds all had great games today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 We got our assssessss handed to us today. The score does not due the pounding this offense took justice. “That was as bad as any offense is capable of”-Eric Wood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Allen needs to play better than that; period. I know the OL was junk, pressure was intense, and there were some drops, but he left a ton of yards on the field. Too many errant throws today. What's really needed offensively, and this would help JA, is a "weapon." Who's our playmaker? Singletary? Ok. He's a nice player, but I'm not seeing a ton of EXPLOSION. McKenzie? Yeah. That's not good. What's missing offensively is better efficiency from Allen and a guy who can take a screen/bubble screen and turn it into something big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) We needed to feed Singletary this game and have Josh dink and dunk to offset the constant blitzes. There shouldn't have been 3 passes longer than 10 yards all day from Josh with the pressure he was under. Just don't understand the offensive game plan today. The world isn't ending with this loss, but it's frustrating to watch the Bills lose a game at home that they could have won. Edited December 8, 2019 by Inigo Montoya 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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