FlaFitz1 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) I took a look at Josh Allen and compared him to another, potentially playoff bound, QB since week 4 of the season - over the last 6 games. Here's how they stack up and wondering what you think about it and not only his chances but the Bills chances going forward this season of being successful both during the regular season plus the playoffs and who you'd rather have right now Allen: 112 completions against 186 attempts for 1272 yards, a 60.2% completion rate, 6.83 yards per attempt, 10 TDs vs 1 Interception, a QB rating of 96.44. Additionally, 43 rushes for 200 yards a 4.65 ypa average and 4 TDs QB: 166 completions against 257 attempts for 1691 yards, a 64.6% completion rate, 6.57 yards per attempt, 7 TDs vs 4 Interceptions, a QB rating of 85.92. Additionally, 8 rushes for 5 yards a 0.63 ypa average and 2 TDs Personally, in spite of all of the detractors out there I think he's playing pretty good ball with better ball ahead of him which bodes well for him and the rest of the season and hopefully postseason Edited November 22, 2019 by FlaFitz1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Are we supposed to guess who's behind door #2? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 I came for the food topic. Sorry wrong thread. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Thanks. Now I’m hungry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Russell Wilson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 I love Josh Allen, like almost to weird levels... however, why does everyone only pick and choose which weeks in the season to use for comparative purposes? Why not be a man and include the Pats game. Yes he did terrible, but if he did good something tells me that week would be used in the data. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBillies said: Are we supposed to guess who's behind door #2? 2 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: I came for the food topic. Sorry wrong thread. 1 minute ago, NewEra said: Thanks. Now I’m hungry Hungry, and with dumb game show music playing in my brain...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillies said: Are we supposed to guess who's behind door #2? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, rayray808 said: I love Josh Allen, like almost to weird levels... however, why does everyone only pick and choose which weeks in the season to use for comparative purposes? Why not be a man and include the Pats game. Yes he did terrible, but if he did good something tells me that week would be used in the data. Well if the pats** game were included then the other QB wouldn't look as good either because it's Tom Brady. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: Thanks. Now I’m hungry I've been starving for over an hour and the cafeteria doesn't open for 40 more minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 19 minutes ago, BuffaloBillies said: Are we supposed to guess who's behind door #2? How about some hints!? Does he like long walks on the beach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Is your quarterback in the NFC? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Topic titles must reflect the content of the topic (and it must contain more than just a name). This helps to reduce the number of duplicate topics and makes the community much more user friendly. Please edit the title so that it properly reflects the discussion that you started. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 No beer either, wtf... Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaFitz1 Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 The reason I started after week 4 is because after those four weeks plus the 12 weeks he played last year it gave him a full 16 games worth of games. Typically, it's said a QB's growth truly starts in season 2 of their career. Oh and BTW the 2nd QB is none other than Tom Brady - that gives me hope for how Josh and the offense has developed PLUS that the Bills may have finally started to close the gap on the Pats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 I grt what you’re saying, but I don’t think the comparison is great. Brady is 800 years old now and playing behind an offensive line that resembles the 2018 Bills as far as lack of talent. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 The downside of this comparison is that pretty much everyone has acknowledged the Pats*** offense is stagnant and Brady isn't having a "typical" Brady year. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Oh not selective stats comparison again - looks like the following editing has taken place, TV Guide once put Oprah's head on Ann Margaret stock photo. Not real 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Why do people think this is a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 I think it is difficult to compare Josh Allen to an established QB. With an established QB, you know pretty much what to expect. Because of Allen's youth, he's kind of a moving target. The general trend is toward improvement, but it's not a straight line, so you really can't be certain what you're going to get in a given week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 So what your saying is Josh plays like a 42 year old. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Chris66 said: So what your saying is Josh plays like a 42 year old. Even Tom said he's been BAD Old Dog meet New Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 @FlaFitz1 Did you see the following on Buffalo Rumblings article today? https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2019/11/22/20973520/measuring-up-buffalo-bills-qb-josh-allen-2019-season-afc-player-of-the-week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theAteam Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 hours ago, FlaFitz1 said: The reason I started after week 4 is because after those four weeks plus the 12 weeks he played last year it gave him a full 16 games worth of games. Typically, it's said a QB's growth truly starts in season 2 of their career. Oh and BTW the 2nd QB is none other than Tom Brady - that gives me hope for how Josh and the offense has developed PLUS that the Bills may have finally started to close the gap on the Pats The 8 rushes for 5 yards gave it away. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 I hate these threads.... "Hey, I grabbed some random data set and compared our guy to some mystery player. Can you guess they player? What do you think about it?" Just say what you are going to say man. You think Josh Allen has been better than Tom Brady, and here is why. That is what your thread title should be, and that is the actual conversation you want to have. ...or that isn't the conversation you want to have, because you don't actually think that, and this is a LAMP. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Brady knows when a game is won or lost, and usually checks out at that point. can happen in the first quarter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 hours ago, FlaFitz1 said: I took a look at Josh Allen and compared him to another, potentially playoff bound, QB since week 4 of the season - over the last 6 games. Here's how they stack up and wondering what you think about it and not only his chances but the Bills chances going forward this season of being successful both during the regular season plus the playoffs and who you'd rather have right now Allen: 112 completions against 186 attempts for 1272 yards, a 60.2% completion rate, 6.83 yards per attempt, 10 TDs vs 1 Interception, a QB rating of 96.44. Additionally, 43 rushes for 200 yards a 4.65 ypa average and 4 TDs QB: 166 completions against 257 attempts for 1691 yards, a 64.6% completion rate, 6.57 yards per attempt, 7 TDs vs 4 Interceptions, a QB rating of 85.92. Additionally, 8 rushes for 5 yards a 0.63 ypa average and 2 TDs Personally, in spite of all of the detractors out there I think he's playing pretty good ball with better ball ahead of him which bodes well for him and the rest of the season and hopefully postseason I see what you did there! Very clever. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Is the best QB the one with the best stats? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 10 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Topic titles must reflect the content of the topic (and it must contain more than just a name). This helps to reduce the number of duplicate topics and makes the community much more user friendly. Please edit the title so that it properly reflects the discussion that you started. Thank you. but now I don't understand the joke. was there some food reference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 11 hours ago, FlaFitz1 said: The reason I started after week 4 is because after those four weeks plus the 12 weeks he played last year it gave him a full 16 games worth of games. Typically, it's said a QB's growth truly starts in season 2 of their career. Oh and BTW the 2nd QB is none other than Tom Brady - that gives me hope for how Josh and the offense has developed PLUS that the Bills may have finally started to close the gap on the Pats Comparing a 21 year old against a 42 year old QB is not apples-to-apples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 10 hours ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: but now I don't understand the joke. was there some food reference? The title was originally "food for thought..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 If you strip out the surrounding comparison and leave it at: "Over the last 6 games, Allen: 112 completions against 186 attempts for 1272 yards, a 60.2% completion rate, 6.83 yards per attempt, 10 TDs vs 1 Interception, a QB rating of 96.44. Additionally, 43 rushes for 200 yards a 4.65 ypa average and 4 TDs." If he carries that forward for the next 6 games, we'll be playing a 7th. I think that is pretty much the point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaFitz1 Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 23 hours ago, freddyjj said: @FlaFitz1 Did you see the following on Buffalo Rumblings article today? https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2019/11/22/20973520/measuring-up-buffalo-bills-qb-josh-allen-2019-season-afc-player-of-the-week No I hadn't seen it - pretty funny they wrote the same thing though. Ok and case people doubt I saw that article first - I posted this thread roughly 10:30am and that article was posted 1pm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 3 hours ago, FlaFitz1 said: No I hadn't seen it - pretty funny they wrote the same thing though. Ok and case people doubt I saw that article first - I posted this thread roughly 10:30am and that article was posted 1pm they should pay you royalties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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