Bills problem in a nutshell

[NoSaint]

1 minute ago, Lurker said:

 

Or anybody on defense that can lay the lumber.   They're all drag down defenders...

which goes kind of hand in hand with a lack of identity, in a way. 
 

we’ve got a bunch of good players and some young guys that might step into that but what’s the teams identity? It’s not on the offensive side yet for sure. On defense we’ve invested heavily in the center of the D but with star, Oliver and Edmunds we aren’t there (at least yet). The team just doesn’t have a spot to really say “this is who we are” and I think that’s why we are seeing “but we are 6-2” and not “but we bring the hurt to our opponent” or “but you see anyone slowing down -insert name here-“

[Buffbills123]

7 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

Or anybody on defense that can lay the lumber.   They're all drag down defenders...

 

19 points today. That’s a job well done. 

[TheJauronClap]

12 minutes ago, keepthefaith said:

 

Dabol is calling a pass happy game nearly every week without players that can execute it at a high level consistently.  With a young QB and 3 capable running backs, the ball should be handed off more often. 

So play like the bills with shady and tyrod or fitz and fred jackson is what your saying. Cause if you are then man we are screwed 

Edited November 11, 2019 by TheJauronClap

[JK Fan]

36 minutes ago, FUTURIST said:

 

Yes.  I have given up. I am no longer delusional enough to believe the Bills can beat a good team.  They just are not very good. I have to agree with Terry Bradshaw.

So next week if they win, will you predict them to go 13-3?

[Nextmanup]

57 minutes ago, FUTURIST said:

The Bills are not very talented.  That is their problem in a nutshell.  

But have you seen the culture around that place?!

 

It's just fantastic.

 

 

15 minutes ago, Buffbills123 said:

Bills problem in a nutshell (for years):

 

They don’t have a competent NFL quarterback. 

BINGO! 

 

 

I have to say, though, it is fun to read all these explanations as to why we lost today or what the "real" problem with the team is.

 

Almost nobody mentions the QB.

 

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

 

 

 

 

[SoTier]

55 minutes ago, zevo said:

This is probably one of the dumber statements I’ve read here today. 

 

Name the players on either side of the ball who are "game breakers"?   They have tons of JAGs, some decent aging veterans, a handful of young "projects", and only one bonafide outstanding young veteran -- Tre White.  I'd call that a serious lack of talent to try and compete with the likes of the Pats, Rams, Saints, Chiefs, Cowboys, Packers etc.

 

14 minutes ago, Buffbills123 said:

Bills problem in a nutshell (for years):

 

They don’t have a competent NFL quarterback. 

 

They also don't have a competent FO or coaching staff which is why they don't have a competent NFL quarterback.

[Buffbills123]

15 minutes ago, SoTier said:

They also don't have a competent FO or coaching staff which is why they don't have a competent NFL quarterback.

 

If only the archives went back far enough.  Insert this exact same narrative for:

 

Tyrod Taylor, EJ, Fitz, Trent, Bledsoe. 

 

It’s rinse and repeat. 

 

Fan base starts to become worrisome over state of team given poor QB play - results in blame of OC, front office, HC, personnel, etc.

 

Self realization later comes to fruition that it was the QB holding the team back all along. 

 

Should be in medical textbooks. 

 

 

Edited November 11, 2019 by Buffbills123

[RyanC883]

1 hour ago, Johnnycage46 said:

The Chiefs lost at Tennessee today.  Just sayin.  The Colts lost at home to the Dolphins today.

  Just Sayin.  The Falcons won at the Saints today.  Just sayin.  Stuff happens.  Just sayin.

those are outlier results.  The Bills have basically been playing the same all season and it is catching up to them.  The offense is terrible in terms of its  play calling and QB play. 

[Johnnycage46]

3 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

those are outlier results.  The Bills have basically been playing the same all season and it is catching up to them.  The offense is terrible in terms of its  play calling and QB 

Cool story.

[Stallions]

1 hour ago, Seven-N-Nine said:

This is McDermott's coaching style, it's why he rarely has any blowout wins and has too many blowout losses all the while only beating bad teams. He's a play not to lose coach. Play to not lose teams never win anything meaningful.

I agree - but - I think he knows that the team has very average talent.

[stuvian]

ST are mediocre 

 

We have no tall red zone threat 

 

Our TEs are a non factor in the passing game 

[Niagara Dude]

1 hour ago, Chill said:

Play Jauron ball and most games will be tight.  We have to get the bounces and calls to succeed, which we usually do not. 
 

Margin of error is too tight to be consistently successful. We need a coaching change. 

I said over and over that Sean is Dick Jauron JR and plays too conservative on both sides of the ball,  after taking the lead they should have shown heavy dose of blitzing.  We have to last or near the bottom of league in getting turnovers.  Want to help your QB then start getting more turnovers and giving him good field position.

[Sweats]

1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said:

Generating more turnovers would remedy that.

 

 

Remedy what?.........more 3 and outs?

[Ga boy]

1 hour ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

Hitting a deep ball today would have won this game, had at least 2 that were wide open

Haven't seen any improvement in passing compared to the Tyrod era.  ? 

[Dopey]

1 hour ago, Lurker said:

 

Or anybody on defense that can lay the lumber.   They're all drag down defenders...

I want say this as politely as I can. Leave the defense alone. Anyone complaining about our defense needs to get a grip. It's not perfect, but consider the following:

 

Points against per game:  16.66

Points scored per game:   19.33

 

We've given up 20 or more points only twice this season. TWICE.

We've held 2 teams to single digits scoring.

We've SCORED LESS than 15 points 3 times.

We've had games of 10, 13, 14, 16 and 17 POINTS SCORED this year. 

Please leave the defense out of this. And before anyone says the defense is doing this against a soft schedule, tell it to the offense. They're playing that same soft schedule.

[mannc]

1 hour ago, FUTURIST said:

The Bills are not very talented.  That is their problem in a nutshell.  

That’s pretty much it, especially on offense.  Zero playmakers in a playmaker league.  They have to scrap for every point and if one or two things go wrong—like missed FG or two—it’s a L. Oh, and it’s boring as hell.

Edited November 11, 2019 by mannc

[Best Player Available]

28 minutes ago, stuvian said:

 

 

Our TEs are a non factor in the passing game 

this has been a problem for decades now.

[TheJauronClap]

19 minutes ago, Dopey said:

I want say this as politely as I can. Leave the defense alone. Anyone complaining about our defense needs to get a grip. It's not perfect, but consider the following:

 

Points against per game:  16.66

Points scored per game:   19.33

 

We've given up 20 or more points only twice this season. TWICE.

We've held 2 teams to single digits scoring.

We've SCORED LESS than 15 points 3 times.

We've had games of 10, 13, 14, 16 and 17 POINTS SCORED this year. 

Please leave the defense out of this. And before anyone says the defense is doing this against a soft schedule, tell it to the offense. They're playing that same soft schedule.

I agree no one else seems to see this the d is fine and the offense is garbage 

[TheFunPolice]

QB is wild and erratic

 

Playcalling on offense is not strategic in terms of down and distance

 

Defense is good but is relied on too much

 

Coach wants to win games 16-13

 

So overall, I agree!

[Lurker]

1 hour ago, Buffbills123 said:

 

19 points today. That’s a job well done. 

 

Football is a violent game.    Intimidation and exerting your will on an opponent is an important part of that game.    

 

I'd like to see some anger from this team...

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

I think the problem in a nutshell is not enough talent.  There was a column in BN today about how the Bills are ahead of schedule by some amount and they are beating the teams they should beat.  You certainly could argue that would mean a 6-2 team should beat a 2-6 team.  However as many stories and comments that the Bills are the worst 6-2, you could also say the Brown are the best 2-6 team. They lost today to a team that was projected to go deep into the playoffs with more talent.

 

And that to me is the problem, limited talent.  The 6-2 start has everyone excited however they are still likely a year away mainly on offense and pass rush.

[Da webster guy]

3 hours ago, Seven-N-Nine said:

This is McDermott's coaching style, it's why he rarely has any blowout wins and has too many blowout losses all the while only beating bad teams. He's a play not to lose coach. Play to not lose teams never win anything meaningful.

 

This is sad but true.    I wish he would just admit he's a defensive guy and the team leader but hand the entire offense INCLUDING go for it or punt decisions to a qualified offensive coordinator to run that entire side of the ball.   McD isn't qualified to run anything tactically on the offensive side.

It worked for Marv.

 

If Daboll is that guy then great, McD needs to do what all good CEO's do which is to know your weaknessses, and empower the best people in the world to fill in the holes and let them run it better than you ever could.  

[Mike in Horseheads]

Do you still know the cure for Chrohns and cancer?

[Buffalo Barbarian]

4 hours ago, Chill said:

Play Jauron ball and most games will be tight.  We have to get the bounces and calls to succeed, which we usually do not. 
 

Margin of error is too tight to be consistently successful. We need a coaching change. 

 

So going for it twice on fourth down and FAILING wasnt enough to convince you he should have done it 3 times ??

 

 

[Phil The Thrill]

4 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

Generating more turnovers would remedy that.

So would generating more points on offense.

[BobbyC81]

5 hours ago, dayman said:

Bills problem in a nutshell: QB is not good enough to consistently apply pressure on the opposing team throughout the game and often hurts us. 

 

/topic

 

/season

If that’s the case, why don’t they run the ball more?  Isn’t that what McD said they needed to do?   The RBs had 14 carries and averaged 4.0 yards per carry while Allen had 41 pass attempts. I don’t get it.

[row_33]

Actually achieving an NFL road win Is harder than the cakewalk that about 80 percent on here predicted?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 11, 2019 by row_33

[Buffalophil1948]

Game planning.  41 passes to 20 runs. Wtf, we are not going to beat anyone that way. Attacking a teams weakness in the 30th ranked run defense should be a no brainer.  

[Boca BIlls]

11 hours ago, matter2003 said:

They leave themselves too small a margin of error on a week to week basis.

 

What i mean is that the team isn't able to give themselves enough breathing room to overcome many screw-ups...whether its turnovers, lack of offensive production, lack of defensive turnovers, bad special teams play, etc...

 

They always seem to find themselves in close games even against lesser opponents. Today they lost because they missed 2 FGs and because the kicker doesn't have enough of a leg anymore, realistically a 3rd because he forced McDermott to go for it on a 4th and 4 instead of trying a 50+ yard FG that 90% of the league would try.

 

They can't have a kicker who isn't ultra reliable. It just isn't going to work...they don't score enough points to overcome 2 or 3 FG misses in a game...

 

Ultimately the team just doesn't do enough to give themselves enough breathing room and that will likely be their downfall...either by missing the playoffs or they will lose in the playoffs due to it likely in the first round...

 

They don't have a QB, the defense sucks, the offense sucks, the kicker sucks.

[sunshynman]

The Bills problem is we are not using the best O weapon in Singltary nearly enough! This O should run through him with a little bit of Josh passing sprinkled in. He is the home run threat on the team, and we decided to make try and Make Josh do it all. JA is progressing. But if you want to win these games you go DS until they stop him, then throw a screen, then do an end around, Then run DS some more. Then after we are up 2 scores, start passing the ball. Take the pressure of Josh.

 

And stop the damn designed QB runs. Let Josh Run on busted plays because he excels at that. The damn designed runs are going to get him killed!

[Big Turk]

35 minutes ago, Bandito said:

As I posted before in a thread, this team isn't very good. We've had one of the easiest schedules in football. I want to be optimistic, but it is hard when you lay an egg against a 2-6 team. Quality playoff teams don't do that. I wouldn't be surprised if we lost to Miami next week.

 

The Baltimore Ravens beg to differ

[YodaMan79]

1 hour ago, Buffalophil1948 said:

Game planning.  41 passes to 20 runs. Wtf, we are not going to beat anyone that way. Attacking a teams weakness in the 30th ranked run defense should be a no brainer.  

 

This is it.  The analysts and coaches make football out to be on par with physics.  Sometimes it's just as simple as exploiting obvious weaknesses and exerting your will and talent upon others.  Successful  teams make others adapt to their game plan and style of play, not the other way around.  This team is built for the run to open up the pass game.  This reminds me of the A. Reid Eagle teams post SB appearance in 04, pass 65% of the time against no matter what.  Why do the obvious when you're smarter than everyone else?  Reid was 4 games above .500 the remainder of his Eagles tenure, after 04.  McClappy was witness to all of it.  The one thing I don't understand though, is J. Johnson the DC of the time was aggressive.  Where is Sean's killer instinct?  The fact Singletary was not featured in the game plan is negligent.  Even as a rookie he's a minimum 15 touch a game guy.   

Edited November 11, 2019 by YodaMan79