ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I'm not criticizing anyone, and I suspect there are opinions going both ways. I'd just like to know how most members feel about whether topics and posts critical of the Bills should be allowed here. I encourage everyone to participate in the poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I want both positive and negative comments articulated in a well thought out way. I don't want to be insulted if you disagree with me. Explain why you do please. 19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 like the One Bills Live show, except more positive and upbeat. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) I want it to be a place where people can say whatever they want, and if you decide you don't like interacting with a particular poster, you can set them on "Ignore". My ignore list is lengthy (I just counted, 56 posters), and I put people on it for a variety of reasons. Perhaps I think they are abusive, or I think they have idiotic posts, or just don't add anything...all these are fine, I just set them on ignore. No problemo! Edited November 8, 2019 by 32ABBA 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Without the option to offer criticism, I think the amount of chatter on this board would shrink by half. Essentially, that's what these boards are for, griping about the team when they aren't doing so well (or in the case this season, griping despite a 6-2 record), celebrating when they're winning, speculating about prospects/free agents/trades, discussing where people think changes need to be made, etc. etc. I do agree with reddogblitz in that comments, whether positive or negative, should be at least somewhat articulate. Usually the mods will dump any threads that are like, "Allen is the worst!!! Fire everyone!" so we don't see a whole lot of low-effort posts here. I also think the mods do a great job of merging threads when a subject has had numerous new threads started. I guess maybe some people could be more conscious of that? Whenever you see some Bills news and you wanna race over here to post about it, odds are someone like Yolo has you beat, haha. So just make sure you aren't posting something that's already kickin' around on here. Other than that, I've come to enjoy this place quite a bit, probably more than the official Bills board, and even if Hapless did toss me a 3-day ban that one time! (I got a bit too grumpy about the Bills-Packers game last season), all in all it's a great board with some solid folks handling things. At least that's how I perceive it, I've never seen mods on a power trip or banning people just because they can or because they disagree. They're fair here, as long as you're not being an abusive turd or posting junk. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) Of course criticism of the bills should be allowed. Also, criticism of the irrational over-positive people who don’t view reality properly. Also, criticism of the idiotic trolls who are overly negative because they think they’re shocking/they understand nothin of football. So to answer your question, we’ve got room to critize all types round these parts. Edited November 8, 2019 by whatdrought 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 The life blood of this forum is discussion emanating from competing viewpoints. Eliminate that, and you eliminate the point of having a board. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, 32ABBA said: I want it to be a place where people can say whatever they want, and if you decide you don't like interacting with a particular poster, you can set them on "Ignore". My ignore list is lengthy (I just counted, 56 posters), and I put people on it for a variety of reasons. Perhaps I think they are abusive, or I think they have idiotic posts, or just don't add anything...all these are fine, I just set them on ignore. No problemo! hmm, never have seen you reply to one of my posts, now i know why!. Someone quote my post so ABBA can see it! 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Your post is missing the option, “like it is without posts like these.” 2 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: hmm, never have seen you reply to one of my posts, now i know why!. Someone quote my post so ABBA can see it! I do have you on ignore....I like your football posts, and often peek at them, but have no interest in the PPP bickering. I do think you are a good dude, though. Edited November 8, 2019 by 32ABBA 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Who wants to be in an echo chamber? Society is splitting into that already. If I can't listen to views that are different than mine, how will I ever know if I am wrong? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 The BBMB died 2 years ago. they can keep their silly rules 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 There seems to be a growing trend lately. More and more users are crying foul, saying they're being "censored," because they're being critical of the Bills. No ... that's not why you're being censored. You're being censored because you're creating unnecessary new threads. You're being censored because you're being argumentative. You're being censored because you're being disrespectful. And when you get called out on those things, you immediately say, "you just don't like me because I'm not a homer." It's BS. And it's easy to see. This trend, as I see it, is happening with a lot of newer users who are creating accounts for the sole purpose of bashing the Bills every chance they get. That's not what this place needs. There are lots of things about the Bills that can be criticized, from top to bottom. Those criticisms, as long as I've been here, have never been silenced. A-holes are silenced. So the obvious choice is YES, but there's a lot more to it, in my opinion. 13 3 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Only posts of dogs wearing Bills gear. Nothing else. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Gugny said: There seems to be a growing trend lately. More and more users are crying foul, saying they're being "censored," because they're being critical of the Bills. No ... that's not why you're being censored. You're being censored because you're creating unnecessary new threads. You're being censored because you're being argumentative. You're being censored because you're being disrespectful. And when you get called out on those things, you immediately say, "you just don't like me because I'm not a homer." It's BS. And. it's easy to see. This trend, as I see it, is happening with a lot of newer users who are creating accounts for the sole purpose of bashing the Bills every chance they get. That's not what this place needs. There are lots of things about the Bills that can be criticized, from top to bottom. Those criticisms, as long as I've been here, have never been silenced. A-holes are silenced. So the obvious choice is YES, but there's a lot more to it, in my opinion. It's easy to thin the herd, though. It's not a big deal to have annoying posters, and worth it to have the freedom to post whatever you want...because it's all at your fingertips to shape the board however you like. Why would you want to give that up? Edited November 8, 2019 by 32ABBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I want a site where we sit in a circle and share our innermost feelings about what we want the site to be. With chanting. Jesus... 2 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 The kind of place articulated here: https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/guidelines/ 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I guess for me it comes down to what criticism is. Constructive? Analytical? Absolutely! Trolling? Paranoia? Nope. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Boards like this should be for debate. Positive and negative views, praise and criticism should be welcome. I would hope folks would offer them with some rational basis and not just knee jerk reactions (like in the game threads. Some folks are overly positive about things, some the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 All non-trolling contributions should be able to post, but expect to be flamed appropriately for dum-dum type threads that offer no reasoned analysis/substance. Help me to still respect the takes I don’t agree with...something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I want a site where we sit in a circle and share our innermost feelings about what we want the site to be. With chanting. Jesus... and loving say you’re an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Just now, SlimShady'sGhost said: and loving say you’re an idiot. What do you think I'm chanting? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 The Bills should have drafted Patrick Mahomes 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I want a thumbs down button, dammit! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, 32ABBA said: It's easy to thin the herd, though. It's not a big deal to have annoying posters, and worth it to have the freedom to post whatever you want...because it's all at your fingertips to shape the board however you like. Why would you want to give that up? Hell, I'm one of the most annoying posters here. I've taken my lumps, believe me. I'm not saying the herd should be thinned, necessarily. But I do believe that those who are here ONLY to disrupt should be jettisoned. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I can't believe I'm reading for the censorship of facts and opinions from a sports forum. oh wait, i can fully believe it these days.... what kind of person is voting to censor?? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I was thinking Love,Hugs and Puppies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I want it to be a place where everybody knows your name. And they're ways glad you came. You want to be where you can see the troubles are all the same. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Just now, RaoulDuke79 said: I want it to be a place where everybody knows your name. And they're ways glad you came. You want to be where you can see the troubles are all the same. Ok Norm have another beer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) Negative comments CAN offend some people. What we need is a safe place with an emotional support dog Edited November 8, 2019 by HOUSE 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said: I want a thumbs down button, dammit! What like a negative karma system? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.W. Cyclone Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) As a newbie to this site I joined to enjoy the the opinions of the other members and to give mine in a respectful way and I expect the same in return. Edited November 8, 2019 by Blackkat19 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: I want it to be a place where everybody knows your name. And they're ways glad you came. You want to be where you can see the troubles are all the same. 4 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: Ok Norm have another beer CHEERS. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Gugny said: Hell, I'm one of the most annoying posters here. I've taken my lumps, believe me. I'm not saying the herd should be thinned, necessarily. But I do believe that those who are here ONLY to disrupt should be jettisoned. I have been suspended for all kinds of silly posts....and even had a mod or 2 message me an insult, but I'm okay with it. The mods have a thankless job. As soon as I see someone post a few disingenuous posts, they are sent to "ignore". It's easy. I even had "B-Man" on ignore for awhile because his posts would have such wide spacing that the scrolling would just be ridiculous (and then someone would quote the whole post, and take up the whole page). I really think there is no problem with any of this, because we all have the tools here to shape the message board to suit us, and it's easy to do. Edited November 8, 2019 by 32ABBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Blackkat19 said: As a newbie to this site I joined to enjoy the the opinions of the other members and to give mine in a respectful way and I expect the same in return. Oh, ? you!!! ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) okay, let's try to explain the internet to you... it's a better place to learn how people lie and exaggerate and hyperbolize, than say... learning this the hard way from strangers at a bar. Edited November 8, 2019 by row_33 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 1 minute ago, 32ABBA said: I have been suspended for all kinds of silly posts....and even had a mod or 2 message me an insult, but I'm okay with it. The mods have a thankless job. As soon as I see someone post a few disingenuous posts, they are sent to "ignore". It's easy. I even had "B-Man" on ignore for awhile because his posts would have such wide spacing that the scrolling would just be ridiculous (and then someone would quote the whole post, and take up the whole page). I really think there is no problem with any of this, because we all have the tools her to shape the message board to suit us, and it's easy to do. It's not easy to get thrown out of here. I can't think of anyone who's been perma-banned that I miss. And I can easily point to some former members whose absence has made this a better place. It's a great point that we all have the ignore feature at our disposal. Bans should be for those, like I said, who are here only to ruffle feathers. That's a waste of time. And, as far as I can tell, those are the only ones who get the hook. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 This place has an ignore feature ? ... Why didn't anybody tell me that ? Anyway, I've never even thought of using an ignore thing because I want to hear all sides, whether they're intelligent, Humorous or just plain bizarre. Why limit peoples opinions ? To each their own I guess. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Just now, frostbitmic said: This place has an ignore feature ? ... Why didn't anybody tell me that ? Anyway, I've never even thought of using an ignore thing because I want to hear all sides, whether they're intelligent, Humorous or just plain bizarre. Why limit peoples opinions ? To each their own I guess. come to PPP and you will rack up a pile of ignores, to the moon!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: come to PPP and you will rack up a pile of ignores, to the moon!! I've been there, I don't belong there, so I don't go back there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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