billsfan_34 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...is it fair to say that the difference in attitude towards the game, AJ vs Gordon is "night and day"?.....Gordon just can't seem to get his head screwed on......"Plexiglass" Buress, of course AB and Martavis Bryant come to mind...... Spot on- the list of prima donnas is long 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, 17islongenough said: Do you mean the other 1st round Browns bust Corey Coleman? The Bills also had Greg Little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Depends. Does he have good football character? Not sure. None of the rest of it matters if he doesn’t. If he’s still haunted by his substance abuse ghosts and isn’t managing them as required, then I submit he is incapable of the requisite football character required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Why would the Patriots have released him if he was still any good? They needed a WR but still decided to cut bait and get Mohamed Sanu instead, so that speaks volumes to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Spot on- the list of prima donnas is long ...agree.....on what premise does AJ think he should get a long term deal?......SMH...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 minute ago, K-9 said: None of the rest of it matters if he doesn’t. If he’s still haunted by his substance abuse ghosts and isn’t managing them as required, then I submit he is incapable of the requisite football character required. Yeah I just think McD doesn’t want a guy who isn’t committed to team football goals. In his past he definitely didn’t fit that profile. No idea if he’s changed but it’s rare for that kind of personality switch to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 43 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Pretty sure he’s lost a step. Belichick isn’t letting a decent WR go like that if he can play. The trade for Sanu committed a significant resource for another slot receiver. I think this is telling for what they believe is the right offensive focus given Brady’s current skill sets. Gordon is less valuable to them. Could just be that they feel they can get more production from another position. Could also be that Gordon is just not what he was. He would certainly be worth a look. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Beane should've gave the pats a 7th in 2030 for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Steptide said: $50 Miami takes him Jets ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) I have a few questions #1 How are the feet ? #2 How do you feel about modern NFL helmets? #3 Does it always need to be your way? #4 Been to Buffalo lately and do you like the place? #5 Any ex girl friends and do they like you? .. Edited November 1, 2019 by HOUSE 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said: Beane should've gave the pats a 7th in 2030 for him Yeah man. That's right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, HOUSE said: I have some questions #1 How are the feet, any frostbite? #2 How do you feel about modern NFL helmets? #3 Does it always need to be your way? #4 Been to Buffalo lately, Do you like the place? #5 Any ex girl friends? Do they like you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 40 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...agree.....on what premise does AJ think he should get a long term deal?......SMH...... Some in this world tend to have an inflated sense of their value in the current market place to which they work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 3 hours ago, That's No Moon said: The pro-Foster faction here just threw their laptops but we also have a QB who hasn't completed a deep ball all season and it's nearly November so I'm not sure how much a deep threat matters when you can't complete passes to them. We've had open guys, they were all missed. Foster has been hurt all year with a groin. Hard to evaluate him at this point. He also has a fraction of the talent that Josh Gordon has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Depends. Does he have good football character? Not sure. Does he cost future assets? No. Is it a bad contract? No. If he’s available, can still play, and the first one checks out I think he would be fine with it. You could very well be right, I think with the amount of pot smokers in the nfl being mostly ignored by the league it “could” happen, i’d be surprised if ended up with the Bills, stranger things I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Bronxbomber21 said: Beane should've gave the pats a 7th in 2030 for him How do you know he didn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Pats put him on IR so he would hit waivers and keep him from going to a playoff contender. Id be surprised if he makes it past the jets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 8 hours ago, aristocrat said: doubt he gets to us in the waiver wire i'd imagine there is at least one team who will take a shot at him Wouldn't Josh Gordon now be a vested veteran that he will not go through the waiver wire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, ganesh said: Wouldn't Josh Gordon now be a vested veteran that he will not go through the waiver wire? Waiver rules w regard to vested veterans apply until the trade deadline. Post trade deadline all players must go through waivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 8 hours ago, That's No Moon said: bills should kick the tires on this guy?! jokin!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Nothing to lose, put a claim in on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 5 hours ago, dubs said: bills should kick the tires on this guy?! jokin!!!! Those tires are flat and out of balance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 6 hours ago, ganesh said: Wouldn't Josh Gordon now be a vested veteran that he will not go through the waiver wire? jesus read the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 yup now the hit pieces come out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: yup now the hit pieces come out What's your theory on why the WR needy Pats* that have spent the better part of a year trying to find a WR, and just gave up significant assets for Sanu, are so ready to move on from the superior Gordon? Just for fun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: yup now the hit pieces come out He’s been the same guy since high school. It’s hardly a hit piece. I would have taken a chance on him if he had the talent to warrant it but i think he’s probably washed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s been the same guy since high school. It’s hardly a hit piece. I would have taken a chance on him if he had the talent to warrant it but i think he’s probably washed. Tell me about it... He should sue for libel, they are smearing his good name! lol. That said, I'd still take a shot. Maybe with a change of scenery he could keep his head on straight for half a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 14 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: No, I have been on record as saying AJ is on the wrong side of 30 and 2 years of injuries. Gordon used to have all the attributes you mention- key words used to. Some receivers have put up big numbers in NE- Moss, Edelman, etc...I think they expect an uptick in production with Sanu. Go watch that Steelers against Ne game again and watch the Gordon catch and then let me know if he can’t high point footballs. And how many years ago was Moss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s been the same guy since high school. It’s hardly a hit piece. I would have taken a chance on him if he had the talent to warrant it but i think he’s probably washed. Yes, you’re right - not a hit piece. Everyone also needs to remind themselves that he was effectively cut mid-season by a smart, well-run organization with a real need at the WR position. That happened for a reason. Edited November 1, 2019 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, SWATeam said: What's your theory on why the WR needy Pats* that have spent the better part of a year trying to find a WR, and just gave up significant assets for Sanu, are so ready to move on from the superior Gordon? Just for fun? well sanu is probably the better wr right now so they see it as an upgrade and they're going for a title. plus they give up a second which will be like the 60th pick and they get a comp pick back for sanu that's probably like the 68th pick. so they lose very little in their mind and better shot at a title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 If Gordon makes it to us on waivers it makes sense to take a shot. Perhaps a locker room as strong as ours is what he needs. Bring him in, see if it works, if it doesn't, cut bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Just now, aristocrat said: well sanu is probably the better wr right now so they see it as an upgrade and they're going for a title. plus they give up a second which will be like the 60th pick and they get a comp pick back for sanu that's probably like the 68th pick. so they lose very little in their mind and better shot at a title. And Phillip Dorsett, Jakobi Meyers, and Gunner Olszewki are all probably better now too? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Go watch that Steelers against Ne game again and watch the Gordon catch and then let me know if he can’t high point footballs. And how many years ago was Moss? This year- 20 receptions in 6 games. Sure he may make a play here and there but will he do it consistently. IMO he just isn’t worth the risk. NE in past years has had receivers and TE’s put up big numbers. Lets see what happens in the second half of the season with NE’s passing attack and where, if any place Gordon lands. It will be interesting for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, SWATeam said: And Phillip Dorsett, Jakobi Meyers, and Gunner Olszewki are all probably better now too? all have been healthy and playing well. plus they get kneal harry back. it was a numbers game and he's going with the safe healthy guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 I have no opinion on Gordon but am curious to know how long it would take a player to clear waivers with 31 teams. A few days? In other words, when would he be officially a free agent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: This year- 20 receptions in 6 games. Sure he may make a play here and there but will he do it consistently. IMO he just isn’t worth the risk. NE in past years has had receivers and TE’s put up big numbers. Lets see what happens in the second half of the season with NE’s passing attack and where, if any place Gordon lands. It will be interesting for sure. how many catches does Foster, Williams, McKenizie, Roberts have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: I have no opinion on Gordon but am curious to know how long it would take a player to clear waivers with 31 teams. A few days? In other words, when would he be officially a free agent? 4 pm today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: how many catches does Foster, Williams, McKenizie, Roberts have? How many 300 yard games does Allen have in this enigmatic offense? How many poor passes has he thrown? How many times has he taken off and ran? I can’t honestly assess any receiver in the current dumpster offense we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: I have no opinion on Gordon but am curious to know how long it would take a player to clear waivers with 31 teams. A few days? In other words, when would he be officially a free agent? 24 hours. He will clear waivers at 4pm today if no one claims him 3 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: How many 300 yard games does Allen have in this enigmatic offense? How many poor passes has he thrown? How many times has he taken off and ran? I can’t honestly assess any receiver in the current dumpster offense we have. moving the goalposts you mention Gordon’s catches which are only 13 less than our leading WR and he has been dealin with injury all year. guess what Gordon catches that pass last week Foster failed to adjust on Edited November 1, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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