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McDermott on no trades: "There have been too many years of irresponsible decision-making, let's just put it that way."


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2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

He's done pretty well in doing his best Belichick.  This was a definite slip-up.

There was a time when I hated Belichik’s press conferences. Realizing that what he was doing was not providing an ounce of billboard material or a bit of insight into his game plans changed my whole perspective. That is 100% the way in which you handle the media sustainably. McD did slip up here and we should hope he learns from it.

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I think he was just saying that for too many years decisions were made more to sate the fan base that wanted to see some kind of move for movement sake.

 

They were made for the marketing splash and for ticket sales rather than decisions made and action taken that were the result of sober deliberations about what could help the team succeed on the field.

 

I don't think that McD has the hubris to think or say that all their team decisions are right, just that if they do make a move, they want to make it for the right reasons.

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

I guess 5-2 is pretty mediocre...

Playoffs in year 1 and likely again in year 3

 

IMO, this comment displays some emotion after a tough loss, but it also conveys some sound reasoning.

 

I'm gonna give the guy the benefit of the doubt right now.

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49 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

So he either bad-mouthed previous administrations, or Brandon Beane and himself, or both. Not sure that was necessary. 

 

I'd imagine both, probably realized the Benjamin trade was a mistake and am leery of repeating, particularity since not a lot of draft picks this year. And too many to mention in the past.

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3 minutes ago, WideNine said:

I think he was just saying that for too many years decisions were made more to sate the fan base that wanted to see some kind of move for movement sake.

 

They were made for the marketing splash and for ticket sales rather than decisions made and action taken that were the result of sober deliberations about what could help the team succeed on the field.

 

I don't think that McD has the hubris to think or say that all their team decisions are right, just that if they do make a move, they want to make it for the right reasons.

 

 

 

Yeah, I think this is mostly a shot at Russ Brandon 

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Just now, billsfan1959 said:

Still 5-2

 

For a team they are still building and that was picked to win 6 or 7 games this year...

 

But, hey, keep whining if it makes you feel better....

 

 

Dick Jauron once went 13-3

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2 minutes ago, WideNine said:

I think he was just saying that for too many years decisions were made more to sate the fan base that wanted to see some kind of move for movement sake.

 

They were made for the marketing splash and for ticket sales rather than decisions made and action taken that were the result of sober deliberations about what could help the team succeed on the field.

 

I don't think that McD has the hubris to think or say that all their team decisions are right, just that if they do make a move, they want to make it for the right reasons.

 

 

 

I think that's fair. 

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9 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

I guess 5-2 is pretty mediocre...

5-2 don't make a season.

3 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

But, hey, keep whining if it makes you feel better....

.....your posts alone fill the bill.

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15 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

Nobody really knows what ANY of these guys will do ... but it wont stop the narrative, and try as you might?  It still reflects poorly on a teams decision making.  We heard forever how "We coulda had Gronk, we coulda had Rogers",and those misses were part of the failure narrative for years (Except to Torell Troup)  If Allen isn't the guy and Mahomes/Watson stay on their current trajectory?  You're gonna hear about it for years to come

 

Yep, a lot of whiners cant let go. Masochistic tendencies are in their DNA. 

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Just now, billsfan1959 said:

Because that is so relevant to this team, this coach, this time, etc...

 

Really, can't you do better than this?

 

Same context as introducing a mid-season record against some of the worst early stage competition in the history of the franchise.

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22 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:

McDermott on no trades: "There have been too many years of irresponsible decision-making, let's just put it that way."

 

.....speaking from experience ?

 

The process clock is ticking down Sean.

 

As I think about it, we saw reports they were in on Sanu and Sanders - the real message here is they weren’t going to beat a second for Sanu or what Denver got for Sanders. 

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2 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:

5-2 don't make a season.

.....your posts alone fill the bill.

Why be so miserable? Come join the optimistic side. You'll feel better....

1 minute ago, GG said:

 

Same context as introducing a mid-season record against some of the worst early stage competition in the history of the franchise.

No it's not. Quit being ridiculous.

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6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

The Chiefs are 0-3 against teams with a winning record.

Yeah, but Mahomes throws for like 400 yards a game so that makes it okay in some people's eyes. :rolleyes:

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59 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

I actually hope that McD isn't throwing shade at his predecessor 3 years ago. Enough time has passed that they should be far enough in the rear view to not concern yourself with.  

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1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

As I think about it, we saw reports they were in on Sanu and Sanders - the real message here is they weren’t going to beat a second for Sanu or what Denver got for Sanders. 

Not sure they had to beat those offers, probably just match them. Bills slot is probably going to be higher than the Niners or Pats*.

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7 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Who picked them to win 6 games on this board? Every team is "still building"?

Go back and look at the threads where "success" was defined by most everyone as fighting for a playoff spot. However, I was particularly talking about the so called experts.

 

As far as the "still building" comment: Stop being so obtuse. As if there is no difference in the stage of building between teams.

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52 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Whaley's trades for players:

 

Kelvin Sheppard for Jerry Hughes

Kiko Alonso for Lesean McCoy

A fifth and a seventh for Matt Cassel and a sixth

 

Trade deadline trades: I'm fairly certain the number under Whaley was zero. 

 

Buddy Nix traded Sheppard for Hughes.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/nfl/2013/04/29/bills-trade-lb-kelvin-sheppard-colts-lb-jerry-hughes

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50 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Whaley's trades for players:

 

Kelvin Sheppard for Jerry Hughes

Kiko Alonso for Lesean McCoy

A fifth and a seventh for Matt Cassel and a sixth

 

Trade deadline trades: I'm fairly certain the number under Whaley was zero. 

 

 

He didn't say the poor decision making was ONLY trades.  I think he meant in more general terms, meaning there were lots of poor decisions (draft picks, GM hires, coach hires, coach firings, extensions, trades, FA acquisitions, cuts, etc.) overall in the past; not just trades.

 

 

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I really don't see anything wrong with him saying what he said. I think when he talks about being irresponsible he's basically saying, yeah we did talk to some teams but the asking price would've really impacted future drafts and it would be irresponsible to give up what was being asked. 

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Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

Isn’t offering a likely better pick  beating the offer? 

Not really. If team A and team B offer a 2nd rounder, that’s matching it. It’s safe to surmise that if NE and BUF each offered a 2nd that Sanu is in a Bills uniform now. SF would take the Bills pick based on probability but it’s not a sure thing. A 2nd rounder is a second rounder unless the Pats* own CIN’s 2nd round pick or something. 

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5 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

Why be so miserable? Come join the optimistic side. You'll feel better....

No it's not. Quit being ridiculous.

 

Why isn't it an apt comparison?  Jauron is a famously mediocre head coach, who once presided over a 13-3 team. 

 

What has McDermott done so far to prove that he can be an upper echelon coach?   The team is 5-2, with squeaky wins over bottom feeders and looked inept against a roiling Eagles squad.   They have yet to put together a complete game on both sides of the line.  That smacks of being average.

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5 minutes ago, Rico said:

I view them more as a team, especially in the late Nix era. In 2013, I strongly believe that Whaley was running most things, not Nix, who I believe had basically checked out. 

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51 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:

If he blames the previous admin it looks like an excuse. If he blames Beane, it strains relationships. If he blames himself, he looks incompetent. 

I see it as a "we can collectively do better and need not be impulsive" statement.  It's not a papal decree.  Just a challenge to do better.

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2 minutes ago, PIZ said:

 

He didn't say the poor decision making was ONLY trades.  I think he meant in more general terms, meaning there were lots of poor decisions (draft picks, GM hires, coach hires, coach firings, extensions, trades, FA acquisitions, cuts, etc.) overall in the past; not just trades.

 

 

Thank you. A lot of folks panties in a bunch about a vague reference to a couple past GMs that few on this board would rate highly. 

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