BringBackOrton Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Fire everybody Asleep at the wheel! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: do you believe we are more talented now than in 2015? This is certainly a fair question. I believe we are better situated at QB and on both lines. I also think that the 2020 draft is chock full of wide receivers which I continue to think is a glaring need. I think that the Bills are well situated to make the playoffs this season and a MAJOR move in 2020. And I am glad that Whaley is not there to squander our best resources. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 McD should shut his mouth and coach. The evidence would suggest that his hands are full just doing his job. Taking swipes at the past is lamesauce. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Wasn't the question specifically about trade deadline trades? The only trade deadline ***** I can think of is for Benjamin I guess. Although he did score a TD in the Snow Bowl which if he hadn't we probably lose and miss the playoffs again. So I'm not sure where he's coming from. Yes the question was about the trades (or lack of). The answer was more complex and not just about deadline trades. The link to the audio is in the thread somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, Freddie's Dead said: McD should shut his mouth and coach. The evidence would suggest that his hands are full just doing his job. Taking swipes at the past is lamesauce. What the hell does this even mean? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: A lot of that is hindsight. He went all in for his qb and tried to give him the pieces to succeed. Sammy was one of the best college receivers in modern history. Our receivers were Watkins, Woods, Hogan, and Goodwin. I would kill for that collection right now. and nfl hiring is a joke. It’s basically who’s your dad (Andy Reid’s former drug addict son is a d line coach and the Ryans ) or who you are buddies with (Daboll is friends with Polian’s son). He is in the xfl right now. He clearly had his faults but to act like a guy who averaged 8 wins for a Bills franchise that has been morbid for 20 years is kinda dishonest, do you believe we are more talented now than in 2015? Linebacker, safety, CB, OL yes. DL, WR, HB, no. QB is push or a little better this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Fire everybody We did that Sunday at 3:30 est. No one left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Oh snap. One wonders how close to a mirror he and the Beaner were standing when he said that 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Wow, the entire board is melting down over comments that are true btw. Who cares? It should be a welcomed event considering the mundane tone over thje past 2.5 years! Enjoy it 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Dablitzkrieg said: What the hell does this even mean? https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lamesauce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Can’t we all just applaud the guy for saying something both honest and interesting for once? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, Freddie's Dead said: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lamesauce Thanks. You must be "woke" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 If someone a little less even-keeled or megalomaniacal said this (Rex? Gregg Williams?), I'd be concerned, but consider the source. Say what you will about McDermott's coaching ability, but he is nothing if not respectful and even-keeled. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I just watched the entire presser. This was an answer to a second question about the trade deadline. Coach used the word responsible about 7 times in the two answers before he talked about irresponsible behavior of the past. A couple of things: 1) There was definitely no shade toward Beane. Went out of his way to say he and Beane talked about the deadline the last couple of weeks and implied there is a shared vision of short and long term thinking. 2) I honestly think this is more about cap management than specific personnel. Teams take chances on players all the time...that they can unlock talent, etc. I think its more about being conservative...etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, dave mcbride said: If someone a little less even-keeled or megalomaniacal said this (Rex? Gregg Williams?), I'd be concerned, but consider the source. Say what you will about McDermott's coaching ability, but he is nothing if not respectful and even-keeled. Ok but it definitely sounds defensive. And some of those moves presumably were signed off on by his boss Terry. McD hasn't won anything yet - ANYTHING. He really should keep those thoughts to himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: Ok but it definitely sounds defensive. And some of those moves presumably were signed off on by his boss Terry. McD hasn't won anything yet - ANYTHING. He really should keep those thoughts to himself. McD needs to realize “Dareus and his massive contract!” is an excuse that doesn’t fly for 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, BringBackOrton said: McD needs to realize “Dareus and his massive contract!” is an excuse that doesn’t fly for 4 years. I mean considering that the run defense still hasn't recovered from that trade, and he's a defensive specialist... he should really shut his pie hole. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: One wonders how close to a mirror he and the Beaner were standing when he said that Dot they strike you as the type who are not self-critical? I don't think anything is lost in them in this regard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: One wonders how close to a mirror he and the Beaner were standing when he said that Close enough to see Whaley, Rex, Levy/Jauron, Brandon, and all the other losers in the background. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: One wonders how close to a mirror he and the Beaner were standing when he said that Looked at from the lens of the question - trade deadline inactivity - and that reports are any difference makers out there were demanding 1st and 2nd round picks - and salary dumps available - I took it as they don’t plan to give up day 1 picks or acquire bad contracts/mortgage the future (so to speak) as part of their plan. Just my view. I also think he may have been throwing that KB deal in to his answer, which was them. Edited October 30, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I listened to the pc live and took his comment to be directed towards the league as a whole vs past bills coaches/gm's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Ok but it definitely sounds defensive. And some of those moves presumably were signed off on by his boss Terry. McD hasn't won anything yet - ANYTHING. He really should keep those thoughts to himself. So until he wins the super bowl he should ignore and not comment on the past and speak exclusively in boring platitudes? Idk man that sounds boring... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, JoPar_v2 said: So until he wins the super bowl he should ignore and not comment on the past and speak exclusively in boring platitudes? Idk man that sounds boring... How about beating the Patriots? Or winning a playoff game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, JoPar_v2 said: So until he wins the super bowl he should ignore and not comment on the past and speak exclusively in boring platitudes? Idk man that sounds boring... But MAHOMES! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: How about beating the Patriots? Or winning a playoff game? Sure that too. I just could care less about Whaley, Brandon, Rex, et al. They all failed. This guy’s still on the job so he’s still got a chance to succeed. So if he wants to throw a dig at those guys every once in a while it doesn’t bother me one bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: It wasn't just the size of the contract BBO, or even the cost. How about the dumb clause that was tossed in? Btw, thanks for starting a great thread! For sure man, but McD might as well shake his fist about how we didn’t draft Russell Wilson. At a certain point, it’s more grasping for excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Oh snap. Btw, thanks for a great thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Billsfan1972 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 22 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: they took over a 7 win team and the very next year snuck into the playoffs while unloading riff raff and freeing up money. they are now gonna go ahead and win double digits with 90 mil going into the offseason. get a clue man.... and leave it to @C.Biscuit97 to most likely be the ONE person to actually like your post. that dude has been slobbin all over whaley since the day he left. no blame. couldn't care less about them. they're gone. this ones better...… you have some odd allegiance to whaley. its really sorta weird. Woods, Goodwin & Watkins..... Yep a bad group of receivers..... Again lot's of teams have money, however coming to Buffalo is a tough sell for a marquee player..... 10 wins with this schedule should be a minimum when you should have 5 wins vs. tanking teams (Miami, Washington & NYJ), have won vs. NYG,, winless Cincy and have upcoming games vs. Denver & Pitt without a QB....... They then have dysfunctional Cleveland, Dalls, NE & Balt..... 10 should be the minimum & then a second place schedule in 2020...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Like trading a 2nd round pick for KB? Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: And yet that is true about every team that hasn't won anything in the last 10-20 years as well as teams that have. The 49ers are very good right now but they made as many bonehead mistakes as the Browns, were horrible for years on end, and worse than the Bills. The Bills made a lot of awful decisions and yet were never completely awful like numerous teams have been in that same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: How about beating the Patriots? Or winning a playoff game? The only team since 2017 (start of McDermott term) to beat the Patriots and win a playoff game is KC. They also did that in separate years. KC beat the Pats* in 2017 but lost in the playoffs against the Titans. They lost to the Pats in 2018 but won a playoff game against the Colts but then lost to the Pats*. I'm just saying what you're asking for isn't easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 20 minutes ago, Steptide said: I listened to the pc live and took his comment to be directed towards the league as a whole vs past bills coaches/gm's This is what I was thinking. Maybe he was talking about trading Ken Stabler for Archie Manning for all we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Like trading a 2nd round pick for KB? Agree They traded a late 3rd and a 7th that they got in return for cardale Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 They are going to build through the draft and NO big splashes in FA. They said it day one and they say it now. You change the culture by changing the past! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: The only team since 2017 (start of McDermott term) to beat the Patriots and win a playoff game is KC. They also did that in separate years. KC beat the Pats* in 2017 but lost in the playoffs against the Titans. They lost to the Pats in 2018 but won a playoff game against the Colts but then lost to the Pats*. I'm just saying what you're asking for isn't easy. Nobody said it was going to be easy. But that's what he was hired to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Nobody said it was going to be easy. But that's what he was hired to do. Hard to win in the NFL birdies coming out of the woodwork. Makes you start to wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: They traded a late 3rd and a 7th that they got in return for cardale Jones A late 3rd was still wayyyy to much. That's a premium pick for a oversized , slow TE masquerading as a WR It was terrible the day it went down and they were hoping on a prayer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 54 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Here we go again...... If you believe in The Process McClappity is bang on..... This 5 year plan will soon be 6-8 and then they'll be a new set of excuses. The offense makes no banes that it is about 17 points, no mistakes (penalties are fine, turnovers are not) and the defense being elite. And again we line up on opposite sides. Those behind The Process applaud him, others shake their head & think :More of the Same"..... Don't you ever tire of being a one trick pony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Nobody said it was going to be easy. But that's what he was hired to do. Agreed. I still have hope for this year, although I see many have given up with only 7 games played. 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: Hard to win in the NFL birdies coming out of the woodwork. Makes you start to wonder. I didn't mean that at all and you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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