YoloinOhio Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) “I'm always looking:' Brandon Beane in the spotlight as trade deadline approaches Quote So far, Beane has resisted the temptation to really jump into the mix. The Bills did trade wide receiver Zay Jones to the Raiders last week in exchange for a 2021 fifth-round draft pick, but that was a deal that had more to do with a player who had fallen down the depth chart than anything deadline-inspired. At 4-1, though, and with a future schedule that shows plenty of games in which they will be the favorites – starting Sunday against the Miami Dolphins – the Bills are undoubtedly a team to watch closely as said deadline approaches. If the Bills handle business against the Dolphins, they’ll head into the deadline at worst 5-2 and in a playoff spot. That’s the same record the team had in 2017 when Beane swung a deal with the Carolina Panthers for wide receiver Kelvin Benjamin, sending away third- and seventh-round draft choices. “Your record does matter,” Beane said of his approach to the deadline. “I think you saw that two years ago. … We were looking for receiver help at the time, and so we took a shot there. Sometimes you're going to take a shot and it's going to work out great, sometimes they don't all work out as you planned. “You have to assess, can you make a run? And if you can make a run, what would hold you back? Is there a position or positions? What's out there?” This article is from Friday but I think pertinent given its intent about how record can dictate approach Edited October 21, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) Beane is always looking. If there is someone available that helps this team, and he can make a reasonable deal, then he does so every time. He's not going to ransom our future though. He's the best GM we could have hoped for after the years of shear ineptitude @ OBD. Edited October 21, 2019 by H2o 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) Yesterday showed Bills need help at: 1. SAM position behind Milano. History shows he can't be counted on for 16 games as hurt each of first 3 years. 2. Edge Rusher. Bills struggled to get pressure from outside despite Miami OTs being below average. This is top trade target at deadline. 3. WR continues to be a need on this team. Another outside target with separation skills would help. Phone lines are open at OBD Edited October 21, 2019 by freddyjj 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I don’t know how concerned to be about LB depth. Kind of a perfect storm with Milano out, as well as Thompson. Anytime a team has to go to the backups, backup, there can be a pretty big drop off. I wouldn’t be opposed to getting better depth though. I do agree with EDGE. I think Fitz was getting the ball out really quick, as well as moving well in the pocket. That being said, I’d be offering Shaq and a pick to anyone with an available pass rusher, not named Vic Beasley. We’re paying/drafting someone at EDGE this offseason... going to be Shaq or someone else anyway. Also agree with WR. John Brown is a stud. Cole Beasley is solid. Duke is definitely worth investing in, but after two games, I don’t think he’s going to be the cure-all. McKenzie needs to get the ball more, but that’s besides the point. Foster and Roberts are speed guys, but one can’t get healthy, and the other is a guy who should be KR/PR - WR depth. We have the pieces, but are still lacking the guy who can draw attention opposite John Brown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, freddyjj said: Yesterday showed Bills need help at: 1. SAM position behind Milano. History shows he can't be counted on for 16 games as hurt each of first 3 years. 2. Edge Rusher. Bills struggled to get pressure from outside despite Miami OTs being below average. This is top trade target at deadline. 3. WR continues to be a need on this team. Another outside target with separation skills would help. Phone lines are open at ONE. I would put RT and WR before DE, but agree overall. The Bills should be able to fill a need in the next week without giving up the future. This team is not SB-ready so I think they can save the high picks and try to just upgrade some spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sundancer said: I would put RT and WR before DE, but agree overall. The Bills should be able to fill a need in the next week without giving up the future. This team is not SB-ready so I think they can save the high picks and try to just upgrade some spots. I’m trying really hard not to go all the way there... but we’re 5-1, with a defense very close to being dominant, an offense that moves the ball, is clutch in the 4th and almost automatic in the red zone... Our one loss was against the Patriots in Josh Allen’s worst game of the season, got knocked out for the 4th Quarter and we lost due to a blocked punt for a TD and STILL had chances to win it at the end. This is also the AFC. Our competition looks like the Patriots, Chiefs, Texans, Ravens and Colts. Do we honestly think we can’t hang with any of them by years end? Josh Allen has to get better at limiting mistakes and connecting on the deep ball, but if we bring in a Von Miller or A.J. Green/Emmanuel Sanders.... Maybe we’re a year away, but with the way Beane has our cap and draft picks, why not try? Edited October 21, 2019 by SCBills 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 i hope it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtlBillsFan Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Milano is a huge loss for this defense. Alexander (Maurice) was targeted all day yesterday and couldnt do the job. LB would be my priority. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) Also, has anyone looked at the available FA’s in the offseason? Guys who may actually become available? Nothing too crazy. (If that’s what everyone is looking forward to) We have plenty to throw some around and sign our own guys, while staying on track to take care of our own guys in the future. Now if these teams are asking for Kings ransoms for guys who aren’t Jalen Ramsey types, I get not making a move, but I do think Beane is definitely looking for a move to make. Edited October 21, 2019 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) We need another WR and it's not even close , Smoke is Great but who else do we have / on the other side ? Edited October 21, 2019 by Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Sanders green and miller will all be calls that he makes. Not saying we will make a trade but our pass rush needs to improve and another weapon would be nice. He will make those calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Sanders green and miller will all be calls that he makes. Not saying we will make a trade but our pass rush needs to improve and another weapon would be nice. He will make those calls. If they can get one of those guys, it would be awesome. I want a WR badly but Von Miller on this D would be really fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 sanders would be a great fit with allen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Maurice Alexander is and should not be an option as a full time LBer. And why I am others were talking about signing Deone Buchannon when TB cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: sanders would be a great fit with allen My money is that he ends up with Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 48 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I'd put WR first ahead on any other position. Not that there's another Mack or Clowney available for a trade right now, but if there was, he'd be a much more immediate help to this team than a WR. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 In any other sport the Bills would be going all in at the trade deadline loading up on players to push them over the top. Their record and upcoming schedule all point to a season they probably didn’t see coming just two months ago. They have the cash. Go for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, freddyjj said: Yesterday showed Bills need help at: 1. SAM position behind Milano. History shows he can't be counted on for 16 games as hurt each of first 3 years. 2. Edge Rusher. Bills struggled to get pressure from outside despite Miami OTs being below average. This is top trade target at deadline. 3. WR continues to be a need on this team. Another outside target with separation skills would help. Phone lines are open at OBD I agree with you on all points, with the exception being the need for another WR. I truly believe we are in good shape at the WR position. Brown is proving to be an every down, sure-handed, AND speed receiver for us. Beasley has yet to be fully utilized. Duke Williams, if he can stay healthy, has a chance to be a solid WR, and we have great depth with Foster and McKenzie. And Andre Roberts has tremendous speed as we saw yesterday how he torched both the CB and the safety... I think Josh just needs to get settled in and find his groove, and start connecting on those long balls. Once he does I think our offense can be SCARY good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, MtlBillsFan said: Milano is a huge loss for this defense. Alexander (Maurice) was targeted all day yesterday and couldnt do the job. LB would be my priority. MA isn’t a starting caliber LB. that was a big issue yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 If you’re hoping for a WR, then I assume you think our current WRs can’t get separation and the issue isn’t Allen’s limitations. I like Allen and I believe he has a high ceiling, he just isn’t the surgical precision passer we want him to be yet. So I would lean towards LB or OL at this point if moves are to be made. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Maybe I'm crazy but I don't get the Sanders love at all. Hard pass. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, benderbender said: If you’re hoping for a WR, then I assume you think our current WRs can’t get separation and the issue isn’t Allen’s limitations. I like Allen and I believe he has a high ceiling, he just isn’t the surgical precision passer we want him to be yet. So I would lean towards LB or OL at this point if moves are to be made. It's certainly a tough call. Does Josh Allen just need to be better, specifically on the deep balls? If we dial up a couple deep shots per game and Josh connects at an average clip, are we all still clamoring for a WR? Dudes get open deep. He's just been missing them. I'd still prefer to have someone other defenses respect opposite Brown though. Maybe Duke is that guy, but I don't think we can count on that. Edited October 21, 2019 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 A light bulb went off for me last night when Amari Cooper caught a couple of long shots downfield. It was mentioned during the broadcast as well that having a guy that demands double coverage, or over the top help makes all the difference in the world for Dallas. I believe John Brown is perfect for the Bills and for Allen right now. Even with his successes, we clearly don't have anyone on the roster with proven skill sets that demand double coverage or every down help. That person alone would make all the difference with this offense, as it clearly did for the Cowboys. 9 minutes ago, SCBills said: It's certainly a tough call. Does Josh Allen just need to be better, specifically on the deep balls? If we dial up a couple deep shots per game and Josh connects at an average clip, are we all still clamoring for a WR? Dudes get open deep. He's just been missing them. Josh still gets WAY too amped-up in games, and it shows when he gets excited on the deep ball. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, clayboy54 said: A light bulb went off for me last night when Amari Cooper caught a couple of long shots downfield. It was mentioned during the broadcast as well that having a guy that demands double coverage, or over the top help makes all the difference in the world for Dallas. I believe John Brown is perfect for the Bills and for Allen right now. Even with his successes, we clearly don't have anyone on the roster with proven skill sets that demand double coverage or every down help. That person alone would make all the difference with this offense, as it clearly did for the Cowboys. Josh still gets WAY too amped-up in games, and it shows when he gets excited on the deep ball. Yup.. Dak is a completely different QB when Cooper plays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, H2o said: Beane is always looking. If there is someone available that helps this team, and he can make a reasonable deal, then he does so every time. He's not going to ransom our future though. He's the best GM we could have hoped for after the years of shear ineptitude @ OBD. This. He's always looking and he always has his eye on value. He hates overpaying, and he won't trade away future assets unless he's pretty sure the player he gets is going to be an upgrade. He will not trade just to make a trade. I think some GMs will, just on the hope that the new guy might give his team a spark. Beane wants more than "hope." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 48 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Maybe I'm crazy but I don't get the Sanders love at all. Hard pass. Old and always hurt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Old and always hurt. And even when he was healthy and younger he was never a #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirdGeneration Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I don't get the general understanding that we need to add another wide receiver that can get separation. It was clear to me that Josh Allen wasn't able to consistently locate his receivers that were separating, evident by John Brown throwing up his arms after getting open past the first down marker on a 3rd and long. There are other times where Josh finds and open receiver and can't connect, like the deep balls to both John Brown and Andre Roberts that were missed, despite them each having a step or two. It seems obvious that our offensive point of emphasis should be Josh's growth in seeing coverages and routes develop, and cleaning up the offensive line penalties that are giving us unfavorable down and distances. Without fixing these problems first, I don't know how we are able to make a true analysis of the quality of our wide receivers. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rocket94 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) Beane and McDermott may not have expected the Bills to progress this far yet. Now, finding themselves in a playoff race, they may not have the luxury of waiting for 2020 draft to fortify the roster. I bet that Beane is really looking for help and has been for awhile. Any moves that he makes at this point would serve the team and not surprise me at all. Edited October 21, 2019 by Rocket94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: “I'm always looking:' Brandon Beane in the spotlight as trade deadline approaches This article is from Friday but I think pertinent given its intent about how record can dictate approach F5 intensifies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I don't think any wr would help at this point. Between Allen being Allen and Daboll not doing a great job of utilizing the talent we have. I just don't see it helping much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR8 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 There are the common names being kicked around, but I would also reach out to the Chargers for Keenan Allen as they're looking dead in the water this year. I'd also kick the tires with KC for a cheaper option like Demarcus Robinson... they have big money invested in Watkins and Hill, and a high draft pick in Hardman, they likely can't keep them all and they need to add to their defense. I would offer a pick for Robinson that they can flip for help on Defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCT Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I also agree with the needs discussed on this post, but I’m not sure a WR is going to realistically help the team THIS season. Basically the whole offensive team is new from the Oline to the RBs to the WRs. They’re still just trying to figure themselves out, I think if you throw another WR out there right now it’s not gonna help unless MAYBE it’s an all-pro veteran (which is going to be hard to get). An edge rusher however as was also suggested could come in and contribute immediately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, SCBills said: I’m trying really hard not to go all the way there... but we’re 5-1, with a defense very close to being dominant, an offense that moves the ball, is clutch in the 4th and almost automatic in the red zone... Our one loss was against the Patriots in Josh Allen’s worst game of the season, got knocked out for the 4th Quarter and we lost due to a blocked punt for a TD and STILL had chances to win it at the end. This is also the AFC. Our competition looks like the Patriots, Chiefs, Texans, Ravens and Colts. Do we honestly think we can’t hang with any of them by years end? Josh Allen has to get better at limiting mistakes and connecting on the deep ball, but if we bring in a Von Miller or A.J. Green/Emmanuel Sanders.... Maybe we’re a year away, but with the way Beane has our cap and draft picks, why not try? Why not try .... if and only if it doesn't hurt future chances. They've made it clear that they want to build a consistent competitor. And if you're giving away a high pick you're doing that unless the guy you bring in is both a great fit in the locker room and young enough that he can be around for a while on top of excellent talent. I agree with Skurski ... the Kelvin Benjamin trade didn't work out, but it was a nice attempt. Giving up that kind of value for a guy with that kind of (potential but ultimately unrealized talent) effect on the field would be worth it, IMO. I don't expect them to send away a 1st or a 2nd, and I hope they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: It's fun to dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Mark Vader said: It's fun to dream We could afford him but it's a lot of money for a WR over 30. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: We could afford him but it's a lot of money for a WR over 30. Oh yes, we have the money to afford him, but can we afford the asking price from the Falcons? They won't just give him away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Edge is the biggest need on the team. Von Miller is the answer. I like the Keenan Allen idea above too. I don't see Atlanta trading Julio AJ Green could in interesting. Trade for him and let him heal for a few more weeks. Bring him back for the stretch run. Deep speed opposite Brown would open up the entire offense. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Offensive Line is a big need IMHO. Josh is under pressure too often. However, I doubt that any team is in a position to trade away a better than average O Lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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