r00tabaga Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 33 minutes ago, PIZ said: I would normally agree that a HC would not tank on purpose, but that call was terrible and seemed to be called intentionally to not work. They had the momentum. Flores knows it takes a top QB to win in the NFL. He saw what having a QB like Brady is like. They are doing everything than can to get a chance to get one. Just like Buffalo and Kelly, Miami hasn't had a top QB since Marino. I would imagine Flores knew what he was getting into when he took the job, just like McDermott did. That's where I'm at too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 I'm feeling the Duke Williams breakout game this week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 10 hours ago, Augie said: Dolphins fans? What do those 3 guys know??? ? South Florida Masochists Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 No injury report from McDermott until Wednesday. During the practice open to the public media saw this: 8 hours ago, Nelius said: I'm really not worried at all about losing this one, but I could see the Dolphins putting up some points, especially if Fitz sees the field. It just feels like a scenario where some Fitzmagic gets sprinkled and he finds DeVante Parker or whoever for a couple of scores. Just enough to keep it competitive. Really want to see Allen put up some points and show some domination so that any random Fitz td or two doesn't really matter. I would really like to see Fitzy air it out and our guys get some picks. We've been getting a fair number of batted balls and deflected receptions but they haven't "come to Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: No injury report from McDermott until Wednesday. yeah, nothing new there. Wednesday, then Thursday then Friday .... Something is always changing 2 weeks to get "healthy" They should be in relatively good health if you look at last weeks IR https://www.buffalobills.com/team/injury-report/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Early weather reports looking promising for a pleasant day at New Era. Partly cloudy, high of 63. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 12 hours ago, Warcodered said: I think the Dolphin fans might be more positive about this game for the Bills than we are. https://finheaven.com/threads/final-score-miami-dolphins-v-buffalo-bills.357213/ Barffalo ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said: I'm feeling the Duke Williams breakout game this week. wouldn't mind seeing it but I think brown goes off for about 110 and 2 td 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, Stank_Nasty said: wouldn't mind seeing it but I think brown goes off for about 110 and 2 td Yeah, hopefully this is the game they get the deep ball clicking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Not bad. Archuleta is informative without being overbearing. I think the Bills have a decent record in games called by Spero over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: wouldn't mind seeing it but I think brown goes off for about 110 and 2 td Well, the good news is that Miami appears to be just as charitable through the air as they are on the ground. They're giving up 270 passing yards per game (likely underestimated since teams have been up so big in the 2nd half) and 170 rushing yards. As they say nowadays, it would appear that many Buffalo offensive skill players are "about to eat." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, eball said: Well, the good news is that Miami appears to be just as charitable through the air as they are on the ground. They're giving up 270 passing yards per game (likely underestimated since teams have been up so big in the 2nd half) and 170 rushing yards. As they say nowadays, it would appear that many Buffalo offensive skill players are "about to eat." potentially for the next 3 weeks. eagles are allowing 280 a game through the air and then the skins obviously are struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Not bad. Archuleta is informative without being overbearing. I think the Bills have a decent record in games called by Spero over the years. I dont mind that duo at all. They are pretty neutral. Fouts is the absolute worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, PIZ said: I would normally agree that a HC would not tank on purpose, but that call was terrible and seemed to be called intentionally to not work. They had the momentum. Flores knows it takes a top QB to win in the NFL. He saw what having a QB like Brady is like. They are doing everything they can to get a chance to get one. Just like Buffalo and Kelly, Miami hasn't had a top QB since Marino. I would imagine Flores knew what he was getting into when he took the job, just like McDermott did. I wouldn't confuse Flores situation with McDermott's in his first year. Yes they both had QB issues. But that's about it. Besides, what good does it do Flores to lose a winnable game on purpose? Do you think he believes drafting a QB in 2020 instantly turns his crappy team into a contender? I can't see any college QB in the draft I'd count on to turn things around--at least not quickly and not with that roster. And don't forget, McDermott took the Bills to the playoffs in his first year. Edited October 15, 2019 by The Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) For all of this talk about tanking, suggesting the Fish actually called a play they knew wouldn't work on Sunday may be the most bizarre take I've ever read on a message board. Do you know what would happen in a locker room if the players sensed that the coaches don't want to win? Do you think Fitz and the other veterans on that team would put forth any effort at all in that situation? Tanking is done by the front office. Coaches only operate one way -- they try to win. Edited October 15, 2019 by eball 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s Catalon and Lofton. At least according to CBS it is Edited October 15, 2019 by CaptnCoke11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jkeerie Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 11 hours ago, The Dean said: The idea that Flores is purposefully tanking is preposterous. That's a career destroyer right there, and he's just getting started. Maybe you could hire Rex and get him to tank. I would normally agree with you, but perhaps he has word from above which would negate the career threat. That game on Sunday...if you want to win, you kick and go to OT, or you call a 2 point conversion play that has a chance of succeeding. All evidence pointed to the contrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Good week for Allen to work on some deep passes (assuming Foster is healthy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Still not bad, can’t recall Bills track record with that duo.Superstitious, I know... 2 minutes ago, jkeerie said: I would normally agree with you, but perhaps he has word from above which would negate the career threat. That game on Sunday...if you want to win, you kick and go to OT, or you call a 2 point conversion play that has a chance of succeeding. All evidence pointed to the contrary. Exactly. Normally, most would agree that a HC ( and absolutely players) would not tank. It definitely is higher up in the organization. However, that 2 point try was so hilariously bad it makes you wonder if Flores has been given a total pass for a couple years. HC $$ is a huge pay raise, and lots of these guys get NFL assistant jobs when their HC stint comes to its ( usually early) end. It was bad enough to stir up the conspiracy theories. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 I think we cover the spread. I don't see us allowing any points from the Dolphins. I see a shutout, and we better put up more than 16 on the Phins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 The Dolphins are the ones looking ahead!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The Dolphins are the ones looking ahead!! Yeah they're already tanking ahead to the Steelers and Bengals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said: Not bad. Archuleta is informative without being overbearing. I think the Bills have a decent record in games called by Spero over the years. Yeah, I like Spero Dedes and Adam Archuleta. At one point I was just in a "listen mode" and thought I heard a young Al Michaels when Spero was speaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Apparently they are remembering Allen running all over them last year and thinking it will be the same again this week. A bunch of them at finshaven saying he will rush for over 100 easy. Not saying he wont but he has been better at not relying on taking off more this season than he did last. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, The Dean said: I wouldn't confuse Flores situation with McDermott's in his first year. Yes they both had QB issues. But that's about it. Besides, what good does it do Flores to lose a winnable game on purpose? Do you think he believes drafting a QB in 2020 instantly turns his crappy team into a contender? I can't see any college QB in the draft I'd count on to turn things around--at least not quickly and not with that roster. And don't forget, McDermott took the Bills to the playoffs in his first year. I was referring to the QB issues, but also all the trades they made to accumulate picks. The Bills traded away some good players in order to have extra picks, so they had a chance at getting a top QB. I don't mind if you disagree. I like a good back and forth. I just think Flores is on board with all of the changes and management has told him that his career with the Dolphins doesn't depend on the results of the 2019 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Didn't realize Crossman landed there. Time for Andre to take one to the house 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 I know Miami sucks, but 17 points is a lot given the production of the Bills offense so far this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Juice_32 said: I dont mind that duo at all. They are pretty neutral. Fouts is the absolute worst. You are wrong. Dan Dierdorf is the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, KD in CA said: I know Miami sucks, but 17 points is a lot given the production of the Bills offense so far this year. Bills put up 41 in the last Dolphins game, plus the Bills put up 28 on the Giants this season, so I wouldn't doubt seeing the Bills score 30 points or more on the Dolphins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 14 hours ago, Warcodered said: I think the Dolphin fans might be more positive about this game for the Bills than we are. https://finheaven.com/threads/final-score-miami-dolphins-v-buffalo-bills.357213/ Man, things over there in Fishland are GRIM. Those guys need big-picture perspective, like we do. I’ve only ever seen TBD get so miserable after truly catastrophic events, like Josh Allen going three and out. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: Bills put up 41 in the last Dolphins game, plus the Bills put up 28 on the Giants this season, so I wouldn't doubt seeing the Bills score 30 points or more on the Dolphins. A laugher would be great. These games coming down to the final drive every week are stressful! Edited October 15, 2019 by KD in CA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, jimmy10 said: Man, things over there in Fishland are GRIM. Those guys need big-picture perspective, like we do. I’ve only ever seen TBD get so miserable after truly catastrophic events, like Josh Allen going three and out. Has anyone read Omar Kelly's tweets recently. I would but I'm blocked. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 28 minutes ago, eball said: Has anyone read Omar Kelly's tweets recently. I would but I'm blocked. Me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, KD in CA said: A laugher would be great. These games coming down to the final drive every week are stressful! Exactly. The bye week gave me enough time to get most of my fingernails back for this week. Hopefully I won't need them for anything other than opening a beer. 40 minutes ago, eball said: Has anyone read Omar Kelly's tweets recently. I would but I'm blocked. 11 minutes ago, r00tabaga said: Me too! He seems to be talking about the weather a lot. I did get a kick out of this one though. Edited October 15, 2019 by The Wiz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 35 minutes ago, eball said: Has anyone read Omar Kelly's tweets recently. I would but I'm blocked. give me 1 moment, ill update the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, PIZ said: I was referring to the QB issues, but also all the trades they made to accumulate picks. The Bills traded away some good players in order to have extra picks, so they had a chance at getting a top QB. I don't mind if you disagree. I like a good back and forth. I just think Flores is on board with all of the changes and management has told him that his career with the Dolphins doesn't depend on the results of the 2019 season. But what I'm saying is, if Flores has ANY sense (and I suspect he does) there is no believeale promise the Miami management could make to get him to obviously tank. Unless the Fins agreed to pay him more money than he would make being a long term respected coach in this league, you just can't risk your entire future on purposely throwing games. Coaches make bad calls all the time. Even Belicheat has made a few inexplicable bad calls. Using that call as "proof" or even "solid evidence" against Flores is the worst kind of conspiracy theory logic. The Fins are not likely his long term future. He HAS to know that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) Edited October 15, 2019 by Dablitzkrieg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 51 minutes ago, eball said: Has anyone read Omar Kelly's tweets recently. I would but I'm blocked. I follow him two weeks out of the year. In fact I just hit the follow button today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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