billsfan_34 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Through 4 games special teams hasn’t been so special. For every 2 decent Bojo punts he has 1 shank- yesterday a 19 yarder! When is the last time we have blocked a punt or FG? Yesterday we gave up a block punt and return for 6. Haushka Isn’t “House Money” lately. This mess of ST’s has to get corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Reminds me of when Ronnie White was special teams coordinator for Wade Phillips back in the day. Ralph wanted him fired, Wade refused, and so Ralph fired Wade. We got another rookie ST coach....it didn't turn out well last time.......And, yes, he was outcoached by the Pats on the blocked punt....when the gunner is uncovered, he has to get the man who was supposed to cover him. Maybe our ST coach wasn't a gunner......and didn't know that to teach our gunners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Andre Roberts is decent back there, the only upgrade. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plano Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Bojo needs to be cut ASAP. Go for it every 4th down, he's garbage. Insert other media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) When I mentioned that I was concerned about the Bills Special teams last I was told to relax Edited September 30, 2019 by Protocal69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Plano said: Bojo needs to be cut ASAP. Go for it every 4th down, he's garbage. Insert other media When they feel they have a better option it will happen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, artmalibu said: When they feel they have a better option it will happen.... I want to see it Tuesday when they bring in players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 52 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: When is the last time we have blocked a punt or FG? During the days of Robb Riddick? He was a special teams and short yardage mensch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 It's been fine through the first three games. Bojo was punting well. Hauschka was making field goals. One bad game for that phase. I thought Roberts played well returning kicks and punts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 55 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Through 4 games special teams hasn’t been so special. For every 2 decent Bojo punts he has 1 shank- yesterday a 19 yarder! When is the last time we have blocked a punt or FG? Yesterday we gave up a block punt and return for 6. Haushka Isn’t “House Money” lately. This mess of ST’s has to get corrected. I think Andre Roberts is a very good return man. The Bills need to block a little better on his returns. Unfortunately, I think Hauschka might be on the downside of his career. The good thing is, he’s much more reliable than many kickers in the NFL. Bojorquez is not a good punter. Never liked him and wanted a replacement for a while. The coverage is bad as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 17 minutes ago, Protocal69 said: When I mentioned that I was concerned about the Bills Special teams last I was told to relax Probably good advice. Let someone else worry about it. The Bills don’t seem to be. ? 20 minutes ago, Plano said: Bojo needs to be cut ASAP. Go for it every 4th down, he's garbage. Insert other media ‘Insert other media’...leave Brady’s marital aids out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 25 minutes ago, Protocal69 said: When I mentioned that I was concerned about the Bills Special teams last I was told to relax Again - relax! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, billsfan_34 said: Through 4 games special teams hasn’t been so special. For every 2 decent Bojo punts he has 1 shank- yesterday a 19 yarder! When is the last time we have blocked a punt or FG? Yesterday we gave up a block punt and return for 6. Haushka Isn’t “House Money” lately. This mess of ST’s has to get corrected. Through four games, Bojo has had one true shank and one blocked punt. Haushka missed one 60+ yarders, and yesterdays 49er (but only when Jamie Collins was allowed to illegally jump over the line, affecting the kick). Returns have been substannntially better. Especially now that we finally have Roberts back there. We have had fewer return penalties than last year. Stop with the hyperbole. It sounds foolish. We are much better this year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 As bad as the offense played, we were one good punt away from winning that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Not as bad as last year yet...but yes they arent helping and are hurting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Helpmenow said: Andre Roberts is decent back there, the only upgrade. I don't blame Andre. The failure lies completely in the poor blocking from the punt/kickoff teams. Farwell doesn't even have the proper number on each side of Ferguson. Their gunners are smoking our guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: Through 4 games special teams hasn’t been so special. For every 2 decent Bojo punts he has 1 shank- yesterday a 19 yarder! When is the last time we have blocked a punt or FG? Yesterday we gave up a block punt and return for 6. Haushka Isn’t “House Money” lately. This mess of ST’s has to get corrected. i wanna say it was Hughes that got through and got one back in 16 on MNF vs seattle. not 100% though.... be a bit, regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chill Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 House money really hurt us yesterday and lack of blocking on punts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, bigK14094 said: Reminds me of when Ronnie White was special teams coordinator for Wade Phillips back in the day. Ralph wanted him fired, Wade refused, and so Ralph fired Wade. We got another rookie ST coach....it didn't turn out well last time.......And, yes, he was outcoached by the Pats on the blocked punt....when the gunner is uncovered, he has to get the man who was supposed to cover him. Maybe our ST coach wasn't a gunner......and didn't know that to teach our gunners. I had to google it to confirm, but his name was Ronnie Jones. White just didn't sound right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 4 hours ago, MJS said: It's been fine through the first three games. Bojo was punting well. Hauschka was making field goals. One bad game for that phase. I thought Roberts played well returning kicks and punts. I don't agree. Please read and review this analysis of our previous games and tell me that the Patriots weren't ready to try that. https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/film-doesnt-lie-bills-showed-punt-block-confusion-earlier-season-patriots-capitalized BOJO needed to recognize that he wasn't blocked and either call a time-out or make the pass. But, what occurred, made me sick!! PATHETIC!!! That right there is how we get out coached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 5 hours ago, MJS said: It's been fine through the first three games. Bojo was punting well. Hauschka was making field goals. One bad game for that phase. I thought Roberts played well returning kicks and punts. Agree to disagree- our ST’s do nothing special at all. If FG’s is the only benchmark then well... 5 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Through four games, Bojo has had one true shank and one blocked punt. Haushka missed one 60+ yarders, and yesterdays 49er (but only when Jamie Collins was allowed to illegally jump over the line, affecting the kick). Returns have been substannntially better. Especially now that we finally have Roberts back there. We have had fewer return penalties than last year. Stop with the hyperbole. It sounds foolish. We are much better this year. It isn’t hyperbole- Bojo has more than one shank. We had a colossal blunder with the blocked punt and our very own 19 yard punt- but were great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 My question is why weren't they prepared for such a situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Their return blocking is atrocious. Punter is generic and won't make it to mid season. Roberts is good. Trashing Haushka is dumb. Ask my Seattle relatives how much they miss him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 6 hours ago, boater said: During the days of Robb Riddick? He was a special teams and short yardage mensch. The early 90’s Bills blocked punts and FG’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 6 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: i wanna say it was Hughes that got through and got one back in 16 on MNF vs seattle. not 100% though.... be a bit, regardless. Hmmmm maybe??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Bojo didn't make the decision to leave rushers completely unblocked on his blocked punt and shank. It's ridiculous to put those on him. Kept having only 3 blockers on 4 rushers with the 4th just running free untouched. Yeah cut Bojo for that... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 8 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: Agree to disagree- our ST’s do nothing special at all. If FG’s is the only benchmark then well... It isn’t hyperbole- Bojo has more than one shank. We had a colossal blunder with the blocked punt and our very own 19 yard punt- but were great. Your original claim is we are as bad this year as last year. Not that we aren’t just “special.” That is so over dramatic, and thus hyperbole 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 28 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Your original claim is we are as bad this year as last year. Not that we aren’t just “special.” That is so over dramatic, and thus hyperbole In your opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, billsfan_34 said: In your opinion No. Like objectively. Based on the statistics. We are better. This isn’t an opinion thing. Our DVOA is ranked 26th this year. Last year it was 32nd. Its not great, but it is still much better than last year. Edited October 1, 2019 by JoshAllenHasBigHands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 11 hours ago, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said: I don't agree. Please read and review this analysis of our previous games and tell me that the Patriots weren't ready to try that. https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/film-doesnt-lie-bills-showed-punt-block-confusion-earlier-season-patriots-capitalized BOJO needed to recognize that he wasn't blocked and either call a time-out or make the pass. But, what occurred, made me sick!! PATHETIC!!! That right there is how we get out coached. This is absolutely infuriating. It really makes you wonder what the Special Teams Coordinator is getting paid for. The punt unit has been on the field 20 times in four games (basically five punts per game). The coach could spend an ENTIRE DAY analyzing one play from that week's game, looking at what went wrong on film and trying to fix it. There was clearly confusion in both the Jets/Giants games, but nothing was ever done by Heath Farwell to correct it. This wasn't a fluke play, where "genius" Belichick did something fancy or a single player missed his assignment. This was a situation where our coaching staff was negligent, failed to prepare the players for what to do on a simple punt block, and our opponent caught it on film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 17 hours ago, vorpma said: Again - relax! Thats a loser mentality and maybe if the Bills wasn't relaxing on special teams then we would have won the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 By my count, ST directly cost the Bills 10 points - punt block and failure to draw a penalty on Collins' FG jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 18 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: Through 4 games special teams hasn’t been so special. For every 2 decent Bojo punts he has 1 shank- yesterday a 19 yarder! When is the last time we have blocked a punt or FG? Yesterday we gave up a block punt and return for 6. Haushka Isn’t “House Money” lately. This mess of ST’s has to get corrected. I wouldn't blame the coordinator for the punter honestly - i can't coach you to not... suck at punting. Get me a new punter. We haven't tried to block one - we have a good return man so we are trying to minimize long punts. As far as i remember the last one was in seattle, but someone keep me honest if i'm wrong. Not sure who's job that is but if I'm an unblocked gunner and no one notices to motion me over, i might just call timeout. Whoever is counting hat's there needs to get it together. I imagine its coached, and i imagine they chewed someone out. He's missed 2 field goals this year and one was a 62 yarder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 4 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: In your opinion Mine too! It's the Fall season, take a walk in the park and relax! 35 minutes ago, Protocal69 said: Thats a loser mentality and maybe if the Bills wasn't relaxing on special teams then we would have won the game. You too! It's the Fall season, take a walk in the park and relax! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 14 hours ago, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said: I don't agree. Please read and review this analysis of our previous games and tell me that the Patriots weren't ready to try that. https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/film-doesnt-lie-bills-showed-punt-block-confusion-earlier-season-patriots-capitalized BOJO needed to recognize that he wasn't blocked and either call a time-out or make the pass. But, what occurred, made me sick!! PATHETIC!!! That right there is how we get out coached. *sigh* Bills have narrowed the talent gap on the field, but still a long way to go to do the same on the sidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, vorpma said: Mine too! It's the Fall season, take a walk in the park and relax! You too! It's the Fall season, take a walk in the park and relax! I fished last night- that helps ? 4 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: No. Like objectively. Based on the statistics. We are better. This isn’t an opinion thing. Our DVOA is ranked 26th this year. Last year it was 32nd. Its not great, but it is still much better than last year. Lets see where we fall at the end of the year https://buffalonews.com/2019/09/30/buffalo-bills-nfl-heath-farwell-special-teams-new-england-patriots/ Edited October 1, 2019 by billsfan_34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 To say special teams is as bad as last year is to severely underestimate how bad they were last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, billsfan_34 said: I fished last night- that helps ? Lets see where we fall at the end of the year https://buffalonews.com/2019/09/30/buffalo-bills-nfl-heath-farwell-special-teams-new-england-patriots/ Dude, no ones arguing with you, just saying to relax and chill out; we are 3 - 1 and have three months to go. Smell the coffee, have a beer, take a walk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 Im not upset- not in the least. I like 3-1 just think ST’s gotta get better- a lot better. 31 minutes ago, vorpma said: Dude, no ones arguing with you, just saying to relax and chill out; we are 3 - 1 and have three months to go. Smell the coffee, have a beer, take a walk! Not even remotely upset- i’m good. Been down this road for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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