Chris66 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: ABs contract stated that the Pats* would pay him the 5 million on Monday. IF they don't AB will "sue" for the money. If he loses the 5 million will get wiped from the books. You keep an eye on it. It's they way the accounting works. By monday. As long as AB didnt do anything to embarrass himself or the team. I pretty sure AB wont get the money, but it will be considered dead cap. We will have to see how that plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Chris66 said: By monday. As long as AB didnt do anything to embarrass himself or the team. I pretty sure AB wont get the money, but it will be considered dead cap. We will have to see how that plays out. This whole thing is like a season of ballers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Chris66 said: By monday. As long as AB didnt do anything to embarrass himself or the team. I pretty sure AB wont get the money, but it will be considered dead cap. We will have to see how that plays out. Spotrac is saying what I'm saying. OAK got back all of it's cap space and NE will in all likelihood will too, except the 154k for games played. ✔@spotrac Replying to @spotrac The $9M signing bonus was due in two installments of $5M & $4M, the first due in 3 days. So the #Patriots will need to void the guarantee on his remaining $1.025M base salary going forward to have all dead cap recouped. ✔@spotrac Antonio Brown's 2019 Traded to #Raiders Locked in $30M GTD (OAK) Lost $1M (workouts missed) Had $29M voided Released Locked in $10.5M GTD (NE) Earned $154,000Released, with remaining $10.37M likely to be voided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Now that Brown has orchestrated his release from NEP, what’s next for this media darling?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Chris66 said: By monday. As long as AB didnt do anything to embarrass himself or the team. I pretty sure AB wont get the money, but it will be considered dead cap. We will have to see how that plays out. If they don't pay it then it doesn't count as dead cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said: Now that Brown has orchestrated his release from NEP, what’s next for this media darling?! He’s going to Disneyland? Probably end up in one of those videos showing him duking it out with his second cousin Elfrida, outside of the Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: If they don't pay it then it doesn't count as dead cap. Can’t believe I’m rooting for Kraft to have more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: See above... You can't both argue that Beane would have taken AB for the right price AND argue that the Bills "probably" knew about all of the stuff that has come out in the past 11 days. In fact, your suggestion that their "contacts and such" could have produced info no other team had (and had, given it's AB, astonishingly evaded ALL forms of media to that point) is another whopper of a fabrication. He might not have known about the rape allegations (because that would have been a definite non-starter) but maybe found out other stuff that wasn't illegal but still unsavory. In any case, the new contract was the sticking point and just seeing him quit on the Steelers was enough for him to say no to that. 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: There's absolutely nothing wrong with Beane having "kicked the tires" on a an AB price for signing. It's his job to find the best talent for the right price. It's amazing how some here STILL don't understand this. Glad to see you've come around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Doc said: I'm really not since you ask. I don't watch TMZ, have no interest in the personal life of celebrities, etc. If that's your thing, that's your thing and I don't knock it. Like I said, AB is nothing more than a personality at this point. Very little interest in what he does if he's not on an NFL roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 hour ago, KD in CA said: Can’t believe I’m rooting for Kraft to have more money. I’m not. I hope Kraft gets burned. He think he’s above the rest of the league with what he did. Well, not it’s time to pay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) Edited September 22, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Sure drew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Doc said: He might not have known about the rape allegations (because that would have been a definite non-starter) but maybe found out other stuff that wasn't illegal but still unsavory. In any case, the new contract was the sticking point and just seeing him quit on the Steelers was enough for him to say no to that. Glad to see you've come around. Ok so you made all that up. As for "coming around", I've not said otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Since the first trade this offseason, I've been thinking (and saying to friends) that AB no longer has the will to play professional football. He's been publicly BEGGING to be released or suspended or otherwise shelved. Felt at first like a diva NFL vet circumventing training camp. Feels now more like a misogynistic thirty-something millionaire head case finally coming unglued. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Richard Noggin said: Since the first trade this offseason, I've been thinking (and saying to friends) that AB no longer has the will to play professional football. He's been publicly BEGGING to be released or suspended or otherwise shelved. Felt at first like a diva NFL vet circumventing training camp. Feels now more like a misogynistic thirty-something millionaire head case finally coming unglued. While that may be the case, abusing and harassing women seems like a very stupid way to go about drumming yourself out of several jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 13 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: He’s going to Disneyland? Probably end up in one of those videos showing him duking it out with his second cousin Elfrida, outside of the Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters. ....doesn't McMahon have a XFL team on Epstein Island?.......just askin'............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, Gugny said: Agree 100%. My guess is that Beane proposed a true, "show me," deal with no guaranteed money, but plenty of incentives. Absolutely zero harm, there, IMO. Wrong. The was Zero financial harm maybe but AB could have inflicted plenty of harm to the culture the Bills are trying to build. Bills culture is “Small town atmosphere”, “family and team first”, “always be prepared to do your 1/11th”, “help others and be ready - next man up”, “follow the process”. Beane is doing a fine job but he is not perfect. Just look at least year with Peterman starting and the OL/WR situation. Allen could have been damaged with the cast he had to play with. We we are lucky that AB is too vain to play for a small market team like Buffalo. He simply is not the kind of person we need on this team. If he was a Bill, and playing well, and then all these allegations started to come out it would indeed be a major distraction. No doubt Beane dodged a bullet. I don’t mind him kicking the tires on players but some, like AB, are just not worth the trouble. Edited September 22, 2019 by Bob in STL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 8 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Ok so you made all that up. As for "coming around", I've not said otherwise. True, it's completely far-fetched to think that a guy who was cut for rape has other unsavory things in his past that were unearthed by a GM looking to potentially trade for him. Good one. You came around to Beane just kicking the tires on Brown but not wanting to give him any new money. I believe you called it "silly" to think that he'd do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 This is blowing up in Kraft's face. I hope Belichick is dealing with questions about this for the rest of the season. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 12 hours ago, aristocrat said: Sure drew XFL? Seems like a good fit for that lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: <br /> Brown should have paid her. Just now, HappyDays said: The dude is even more whacked-out than I thought. So what he pulled with the Raiders is fine, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 He is really burning every bridge. His career might actually be over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That will get him dropped by Rosenhaus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Maybe he can finally find the time to take the ‘Punctuation is Your Friend’ course? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 My heart bleeds for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: Wrong. The was Zero financial harm maybe but AB could have inflicted plenty of harm to the culture the Bills are trying to build. Bills culture is “Small town atmosphere”, “family and team first”, “always be prepared to do your 1/11th”, “help others and be ready - next man up”, “follow the process”. Beane is doing a fine job but he is not perfect. Just look at least year with Peterman starting and the OL/WR situation. Allen could have been damaged with the cast he had to play with. We we are lucky that AB is too vain to play for a small market team like Buffalo. He simply is not the kind of person we need on this team. If if he was a Bill, and playing well, and then all these allegations started to come out it would indeed be a major distraction. No doubt Beane dodged a bullet. I don’t mind him kicking the tires on players but some, like AB, are just not worth the trouble. First of all, Bob - I'm not wrong, although I found it a little hot that you started with such e-authority. My OPINION had to do with money; not culture. But since you used my post to segue into your soliloquy, I'll play along. I get that culture is important. I really do. I agree that someone like AB would not be worth the troubles. But at some point, shouldn't the expectation just be for these MEN to just be adults, do their jobs and play football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 he's finally being held accountable for his bull#### and he's throwing a tantrum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Pretty crazy. Antonio Brown could have been a Hall of Famer. Now he's burning down his own career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, HappyDays said: He is really burning every bridge. His career might actually be over. I've been patiently waiting for this thug to meltdown. I knew he would not disappoint! Come on, Tony. You can do better than this!!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 He's better off leaving and getting mental health treatment. The dude is on a downward spiral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) When did this happen, nobody tells me anything around here... Edited September 22, 2019 by HOUSE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, HOUSE said: When did this happen, nobody tells me anything around here... p0 Looks like mutiny! BB telling these guys to go home! Edited September 22, 2019 by Rocket94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: XFL? Seems like a good fit for that lot. They tweeted that they didn’t want him and Then he blocked XFL on twitter AB calling out Kraft has to be the funniest thing ever Edited September 22, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 30 minutes ago, HappyDays said: This is blowing up in Kraft's face. I hope Belichick is dealing with questions about this for the rest of the season. I hate everything Pats, but if anyone cam handle this it's Belichick. It's either about the game they just played, the next game or he's done with the questions. Come to think of it, why does anyone bother with Belichick. Your wasting your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bob in STL Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, Gugny said: First of all, Bob - I'm not wrong, although I found it a little hot that you started with such e-authority. My OPINION had to do with money; not culture. But since you used my post to segue into your soliloquy, I'll play along. I get that culture is important. I really do. I agree that someone like AB would not be worth the troubles. But at some point, shouldn't the expectation just be for these MEN to just be adults, do their jobs and play football? The impact to bringing in any player, especially a high profile personality like AB, is always more complex than just the money. Beane, is responsible for the roster and he has to look beyond the dollars part of it and into the culture. McDermott talks culture all day. It is unfathomable that Beane would bring in a player without consideration to the full impact so I contend he dodged a bullet. Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good. In response to your last sentence, if only this were true. There is a long history that shows many of these young men are not ready to be true professionals. Unfortunately many of these guys coming out of college are not well adjusted “men” and need help adjusting to being a full time professional and managing new found wealth. This is also true for college graduates in any field - accountants, engineers, etc., but on a totally different level as they are not high paid celebrities. AB is a special case. He is a veteran. His antics and his history as a diva go way back. There was lots information in the public domain about his character. It is Beane ‘s job to look at EVERYTHING. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stosh64 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) Stay classy pats* fans. Edited September 22, 2019 by stosh64 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 This is my favorite. He actually thinks people would be upset about this. The replies to this tweet are fun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 minute ago, ddaryl said: This is my favorite. He actually thinks people would be upset about this. The replies to this tweet are fun Watch...the first team that comes calling...Browns on a plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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