Was the Jarvis Landry hit on Aaron Williams dirty?

[Trogdor]

He leaves his feet and targets the head, that's dirty for any player and should be worse than a fine. If he stayed on his feet and went shoulder to chest it would be just a hard hit. He ended a career and still gets to play and thats bs. 

Edited August 23, 2019 by Trogdor

[dubs]

It was incredibly dirty. 100%. He could have just made a solid, hell, even crushing block. But the minute he launched himself into AWs head with his shoulder made it disgusting. The fact he feels no remorse makes him a scumbag. 

2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

I look at it this way...........Aaron Williams was a dirty,  out of control player for most of his Bills career.  

 

He had more than his share of dirty AF hits until he finally busted up his neck by spearing opponents.

 

The Landry hit is technically illegal but it was hardly the kill shot people make it out to be..........Williams was just duct taped together at that point.........if it wasn't that week his career would have been ended soon after.

 

 

Mate, are you on drugs?

Edited August 23, 2019 by dubs

[Blokestradamus]

2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

Williams was just duct taped together at that point.........if it wasn't that week his career would have been ended soon after.

 

This is the most salient point to make in regards to Aaron. After he screwed his neck up trying to tackle Julian Edelman, his career was one more shot away from ending. The second you leave a game in an ambulance and lose sensation in a limb for a prolonged period afterward, self-preservation should kick in. Unfortunately for Aaron, he didn't seem to fully grasp the gravity of the situation that he was in.

 

I guess that's why I harbour resentment toward Landry for the shot he put on him. It was a ***** way to be the exclamation point on a career.

[Buffalo ill]

But the Eric Wood hit on Clay Mathews was celebrated by Bills fans.

[stosh64]

9 hours ago, BrycePaup4ever said:

Im watching Hard Knocks Season 13 episode 1 where Landry is crying about his players being soft and my blood got boiling. F this guy!

 

Its so bad that i didnt feel much after watching the youtube video of his highschool sweetheart dying. Maybe he carries anger towards God on the field over that or something.

 

 

 

You ask the question yet post some bs to make us feel sorry for Landry?  WTF

 

It was dirty as F***.  Here, watch it.

I dont GAF what anger landry carries, I hope Tre crushes him this year.

SMFH

[Orlando Tim]

9 hours ago, BrycePaup4ever said:

Im watching Hard Knocks Season 13 episode 1 where Landry is crying about his players being soft and my blood got boiling. F this guy!

 

Its so bad that i didnt feel much after watching the youtube video of his highschool sweetheart dying. Maybe he carries anger towards God on the field over that or something.

 

 

 

To the younger kids it is definitely a dirty play- in 1995 it would have been fine. The rules change and that is now dirty and illegal.

[mrags]

Williams should have had his head up on that play. 

 

Heres a question for everyone that thinks it was a dirty hit... did you cheer when Brian Campbell murdered RJ Umberger? Because it’s basically the same thing. The only thing different is one of them we were on the hitting side and the other, the side that got creamed. 

 

 

[BringBackFergy]

Just now, mrags said:

Williams should have had his head up on that play. 

 

Heres a question for everyone that thinks it was a dirty hit... did you cheer when Brian Campbell murdered RJ Umberger? Because it’s basically the same thing. The only thing different is one of them we were on the hitting side and the other, the side that got creamed. 

 

 

You cold hearted bruh

[mrags]

1 minute ago, BringBackFergy said:

You cold hearted bruh

Just honest. Williams was as much of a punk and dirty player that Landry is anyway. 

[Mikie2times]

If you played football, don’t tell me you didn’t like a shot at a crack back where they didn’t see you coming. It’s part of the game. It is pointless and higher risk to injury and so was Williams at that time. But the level of hate on this. Sure it’s because we loved Williams but most fans act like it was premeditated. Simple truth to it is he got a dream crack back and acted like most football players would. I wish he wouldn’t have went so high but again, the knock out shot is still very much in most players minds. That’s the mindset very early with the sport. 

Edited August 23, 2019 by KzooMike

[Augie]

46 minutes ago, Blokestradamus said:

 

This is the most salient point to make in regards to Aaron. After he screwed his neck up trying to tackle Julian Edelman, his career was one more shot away from ending. The second you leave a game in an ambulance and lose sensation in a limb for a prolonged period afterward, self-preservation should kick in. Unfortunately for Aaron, he didn't seem to fully grasp the gravity of the situation that he was in.

 

I guess that's why I harbour resentment toward Landry for the shot he put on him. It was a ***** way to be the exclamation point on a career.

 

I agree, Aaron was a hit away, and might have made a better career decision for his well being. I just wish it wasn’t one DIRTY HIT away, and Landry deserves all the crap thrown his way for this.  Because Aaron might have been physically compromised does not lessen AT ALL what a dirty play that was. If anything, it just might make it worse. 

[stony]

18 minutes ago, mrags said:

Williams should have had his head up on that play. 

 

Heres a question for everyone that thinks it was a dirty hit... did you cheer when Brian Campbell murdered RJ Umberger? Because it’s basically the same thing. The only thing different is one of them we were on the hitting side and the other, the side that got creamed. 

 

 

Not really. 

 

Umberger had the puck and got his bell rung because he didn't have his head up when he received the pass.   That would be like Shady getting destroyed in the hole w/o seeing the linebacker coming.  It sucks, but hey, head on a swivel.   

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

9 hours ago, mrags said:

Williams should have had his head up on that play. 

 

Heres a question for everyone that thinks it was a dirty hit... did you cheer when Brian Campbell murdered RJ Umberger? Because it’s basically the same thing. The only thing different is one of them we were on the hitting side and the other, the side that got creamed. 

 

 

 

I gotta admit - I have no clue how he didn’t see him coming. 

 

AW even more so. His head was facing Landry for 2-3 steps 

Edited August 23, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[BADOLBILZ]

27 minutes ago, Blokestradamus said:

 

This is the most salient point to make in regards to Aaron. After he screwed his neck up trying to tackle Julian Edelman, his career was one more shot away from ending. The second you leave a game in an ambulance and lose sensation in a limb for a prolonged period afterward, self-preservation should kick in. Unfortunately for Aaron, he didn't seem to fully grasp the gravity of the situation that he was in.

 

I guess that's why I harbour resentment toward Landry for the shot he put on him. It was a ***** way to be the exclamation point on a career.

 

 

The seemingly innocuous Edelman tackle was when it first became news but he busted his neck up the season before on a spearing tackle.    It was initially reported vaguely as a "head injury".   He came back and finished the schedule but his uncontrolled aggression(and a lot of his impact) was tamped as he nursed the injury thru the season.   I know he has a different version of the story but he has his reasons.   He should have had a long career but unfortunately he was a knucklehead early in his career and the NFL hadn't legislated the spearing out of the game.   I don't like Landry but at worst this was just a case of living and dying by the sword.

[mrags]

3 hours ago, stony said:

Not really. 

 

Umberger had the puck and got his bell rung because he didn't have his head up when he received the pass.   That would be like Shady getting destroyed in the hole w/o seeing the linebacker coming.  It sucks, but hey, head on a swivel.   

Yeah. No

[MJS]

Illegal hit. He got fined for it. But I don't think he was trying to hurt anybody. I think he was just trying to lay a big hit on someone. No, I don't think he was trying to target William's head.

 

Things happen on the football field. People make mistakes. I don't blame him. I've seen far, far dirtier plays from players.

 

Now, I think Landry is overrated and he has an overinflated opinion of himself. But that's a different story.

[That's No Moon]

5 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

I gotta admit - I have no clue how he didn’t see him coming. 

He had his head down which is a cardinal sin, but Brian Campbell had never hit anyone like that before in his life, and frankly I don't think he did it again either.  He wasn't the type of player that you needed to be ultra aware of in that way.  Not like Scott Stevens for example who would take people's heads off on the regular. 

 

FTR, Campbells' hit was borderline illegal at the time, he did end up leaving his feet after the contact was made.  If Campbell threw that check in youth or international level hockey today it would be a game misconduct and a suspension. 

 

http://mihockey.com/2019/06/usa-hockey-issues-new-declaration-of-player-safety-fair-play-and-respect-at-annual-congress/

[Kenosha2Buffalo]

At the time no , brutal beyond all hell ? Yes 

It's not like AW was afraid to hit either , loved his energy on the field. That clearly effected the rest of his career tho . 

Edited August 23, 2019 by Kenosha2Buffalo

[Bill from NYC]

10 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

The seemingly innocuous Edelman tackle was when it first became news but he busted his neck up the season before on a spearing tackle.    It was initially reported vaguely as a "head injury".   He came back and finished the schedule but his uncontrolled aggression(and a lot of his impact) was tamped as he nursed the injury thru the season.   I know he has a different version of the story but he has his reasons.   He should have had a long career but unfortunately he was a knucklehead early in his career and the NFL hadn't legislated the spearing out of the game.   I don't like Landry but at worst this was just a case of living and dying by the sword.

I suppose that the above at least somewhat explains why he was such a lousy corner and a good safety.

[row_33]

21 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

No just football

 

 

 

tough one but it was a clean hit, this happens all the time on special team returns, you are responsible for the field of vision in front of you, getting hit from the side or from behind is a penalty

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

While we are all here, was that Music City Miracle a forward lateral?

[mannc]

23 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Yes, dirty and illegal.

 

There are plenty of ways to have clean, legal, and relatively safe BIG HITS. The guys who have to use the dirty methods are just cheap and lazy.

Yep.  The game is tough and dangerous enough when played strictly by the rules. That kind of garbage has no place in the sport.  Landry should have been suspended for the rest of the year.

[Jauronimo]

22 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

15 years ago that hit would be a highlight on "jack him up" on SC.  10 years before that all anyone would have said was "ohhh man".

The pussification of America continues.  

 

Back in my day men were men.  And kids worked 16 hour days in the mines before going to school because they were men.  And women had moxie and wore suspenders and smoked cigars and they could take a punch because they were men too.  Concussions hadn't been invented yet so football was played without protective head wear and there wasn't even a ball or points just 22 guys running around with clubs smashing each others heads open for the joy of traumatic brain injuries AND THATS THE WAY WE LIKED IT!!!

[Alaska Darin]

14 hours ago, mrags said:

Williams should have had his head up on that play. 

 

Heres a question for everyone that thinks it was a dirty hit... did you cheer when Brian Campbell murdered RJ Umberger? Because it’s basically the same thing. The only thing different is one of them we were on the hitting side and the other, the side that got creamed. 

 

 

No it isn't.

[mrags]

6 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said:

No it isn't.

Ok. Keep on keepin on. Life’s a garden, dig it 

Edited August 23, 2019 by mrags

[row_33]

gotta keep your head up, it's total war to obliterate a DB and likewise in return when possible

 

[BarleyNY]

On 8/22/2019 at 11:29 AM, LABILLBACKER said:

It was dirty and a complete blindside hit that wasn't required.  The issue I've always had about the hit on Aaron that ended his career was the candyass response by his teammates. 

 

I totally agree that the lack of any response during the game was unacceptable.  Failure to retaliate is a sign of a soft team and soft teams very rarely get very far. 

 

Landry did seem remorseful and apologized to Aaron on the field and through the media after the game.  Looking up the play I saw that too.

Edited August 23, 2019 by BarleyNY

[badassgixxer05]

15 hours ago, mrags said:

Williams should have had his head up on that play. 

 

Heres a question for everyone that thinks it was a dirty hit... did you cheer when Brian Campbell murdered RJ Umberger? Because it’s basically the same thing. The only thing different is one of them we were on the hitting side and the other, the side that got creamed. 

 

 

Not even close. Umberger had the puck. The same thing would have been umberger's teammate taking out Campbell like that on the play. 

But yes, in todays times of concussions and *****, that would be a dirty hit now too and I would not applaud it. 

[row_33]

20 minutes ago, badassgixxer05 said:

Not even close. Umberger had the puck. The same thing would have been umberger's teammate taking out Campbell like that on the play. 

But yes, in todays times of concussions and *****, that would be a dirty hit now too and I would not applaud it. 

 

Scott Stevens delivered dozens of those, a few key ones to Lindros

 

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

The pussification of America continues.  

 

Back in my day men were men.  And kids worked 16 hour days in the mines before going to school because they were men.  And women had moxie and wore suspenders and smoked cigars and they could take a punch because they were men too.  Concussions hadn't been invented yet so football was played without protective head wear and there wasn't even a ball or points just 22 guys running around with clubs smashing each others heads open for the joy of traumatic brain injuries AND THATS THE WAY WE LIKED IT!!!

 

Damn straight! (spits into Tim Hortons coffee cup..)

[frostbitmic]

Was Landry's hit dirty ? .... Does a Dolphin **** in the woods ?

 

Or in the ocean ??

Edited August 23, 2019 by frostbitmic

[Buffalo03]

On 8/22/2019 at 11:16 AM, Royale with Cheese said:

By the way...this is what Bryce Paup looks like today.

 

Is it me or if he grew his hair long he would look like a younger Meat Loaf? I'll need to look at this further. Let me sleep on it and I'll give you an answer in the morning

[Royale with Cheese]

21 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

Is it me or if he grew his hair long he would look like a younger Meat Loaf? I'll need to look at this further. Let me sleep on it and I'll give you an answer in the morning

We know who is playing Meatloaf in his movie.

 

[BADOLBILZ]

7 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

I suppose that the above at least somewhat explains why he was such a lousy corner and a good safety.

 

Yeah he went from the worst starting CB in the league to an outstanding safety over night.   Just too bad he didn't enter the league in this era of "no leading with the helmet" his career could have been much different.     

[Bill from NYC]

21 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Yeah he went from the worst starting CB in the league to an outstanding safety over night.   Just too bad he didn't enter the league in this era of "no leading with the helmet" his career could have been much different.     

Oh I was furious when the drafted him. The team that picked after us in round 2 traded down and picked up a third round pick, along with a 1st rounder the following season. When he got here he absolutely sucked until the put him at safety.