Peterman 50-yard run! ?

[Mr. WEO]

26 minutes ago, BurpleBull said:

 

Not true. 

 

Peterman started the first game versus the Panthers and each QB was rotated with the starting unit.

 

 

And after that?

[OldTimer1960]

5 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

Peterman is an ex-Bill who played historically bad football while he was here. I've read the above posts, and don't see anything worthy of clutching your pearls. Bad players get discussed on these boards all the time, and Peterman literally set records for bad football. Why on Earth should he be off limits?

What does it say about people who relish in someone else's failure?  It is one thing to discuss him and explain some reasons why you don't think he can succeed in the NFL - maybe his arm just isn't NFL caliber, but I think folks that laugh at him and mock him for trying are off base.

[Mr. WEO]

4 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

What does it say about people who relish in someone else's failure?  It is one thing to discuss him and explain some reasons why you don't think he can succeed in the NFL - maybe his arm just isn't NFL caliber, but I think folks that laugh at him and mock him for trying are off base.

 

 

I don't think they are mocking him for trying (this isn't HS tryouts or the Special Olympics), they are likely mocking the fact that a guy this bad keeps getting paid a ton of money without any need to demonstrate the ability to perform well...in a kid's game.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

I don't think they are mocking him for trying (this isn't HS tryouts or the Special Olympics), they are likely mocking the fact that a guy this bad keeps getting paid a ton of money without any need to demonstrate the ability to perform well...in a kid's game.

I've often wondered why fans worry about or care what a player is paid? it's not like it's money coming from their bank and if a team wants to give a scrub a paycheck, so what.

[SCBills]

I feel bad because the game he gets ripped for wasn’t all on him.  Half those interceptions were decent passes that bounced off our spastic players attempting to make routine catches. 

[Mr. WEO]

Just now, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

I've often wondered why fans worry about or care what a player is paid? it's not like it's money coming from their bank and if a team wants to give a scrub a paycheck, so what.

 

Maybe because the average fan isn't paid so richly to be bad at his or her job.  It's not an unnatural response. 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

Maybe because the average fan isn't paid so richly to be bad at his or her job.  It's not an unnatural response. 

that's pretty lame.

[thebandit27]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

People keep forgetting that McD purposefully kept NP from facing any starters in last years preseason games.

 

That's categorically false 

[Mr. WEO]

19 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

that's pretty lame.

 

No less true.

 

6 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

That's categorically false 

 

Nope.  This was extensively discussed last year. 

[The Wiz]

The hype is real! 

 

 

Edited August 11, 2019 by The Wiz

[JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS]

5 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

the dude is so outta his league playing this game. it’s so pathetically funny and sad. 

 

Kinda bizarre how his and Kelvins best game was the snow game though. I’ll never be able to wrap my mind around that, 

because the defense didnt game plan for not being able to see.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

26 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

I've often wondered why fans worry about or care what a player is paid? it's not like it's money coming from their bank and if a team wants to give a scrub a paycheck, so what.

I always thought that at some point, Ralph was going to start ‘passing the hat’.  Maybe hire Mike Collins and Goldie Gardiner to delay kickoff for 5 minutes so fans could make the largest possible donation to bring quality football to WNY and southern Ontario.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

19 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

I always thought that at some point, Ralph was going to start ‘passing the hat’.  Maybe hire Mike Collins and Goldie Gardiner to delay kickoff for 5 minutes so fans could make the largest possible donation to bring quality football to WNY and southern Ontario.

I get it. those that buy in to the games/merch/ect must feel that hell, if I'm going to invest by god then you sob's don't need to be payin' a scrub like peterman with my hard earned money, you hear me buffalo bills, now get him off the field and cut his ass. I'm tired of you cutting him a check for his lousy play. by god, I work  50 hours a week for peanuts compared to you overpaid nfl players and by god if I don't do a good job, by god my ass is out the door.

 

meh

Edited August 11, 2019 by DaBillsFanSince1973

[MAJBobby]

8 hours ago, The Bills Blog said:

 

This to go along with a passing TD and a rating of 115.3, lol

 

Well it is Preseason time. That is Nate’s Super Bowl. 

[Alphadawg7]

5 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

the dude is so outta his league playing this game. it’s so pathetically funny and sad. 

 

Kinda bizarre how his and Kelvins best game was the snow game though. I’ll never be able to wrap my mind around that, 

 

Snow made everyone KBs speed to even the playing field.  

 

Snow slowed the defense down so they couldn't close on Petermans wet noodle arm.  

 

#PerfectStorm

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

6 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

...if I'm going to invest by god then you sob's don't need to be payin' a scrub like peterman with my hard earned money, you hear me buffalo bills, now get him off the field and cut his ass.

Much easier to have this mindset regarding Kelvin Benjamin than Nathan Peterman.  ?

[thebandit27]

34 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

No less true.

 

 

Nope.  This was extensively discussed last year. 

 

Nope.

 

Totally false.

 

He started game 1 of the 2018 preseason against Carolina.

 

 

Perhaps you consider Kuechly, Davis, Short, Addison, etc to be backups, but Carolina didn't.

[Augie]

7 hours ago, jimmy10 said:

 

Ed Oliver + 2020 First Rounder for Peterman and Antonio Brown. 

 

Gruden won’t do it.....he can’t give up an offensive player for a defensive player. His ego demands he personally appears to be a genius.  No matter HOW stupid it is! 

[Fan in San Diego]

8 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Even this guy was feeling toasty watching that. (But not @Kirby Jackson, lol)

 

In all seriousness, what is it about preseason that Peterman rocks like a boss??

I'm guessing he doesn't feel the same pressure because the game doesn't really count?

[keepthefaith]

7 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

 

And bad for the Raiders.

 

You know what's bad for the Raiders other than having 9 years left on Gruden's deal?  Having Mike Glennon as their backup QB.  That dude was here in Chicago in 2017.  He's awful.

 

 

[BurpleBull]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

And after that?

 

 

What do you mean "And after that"? You said he was kept from facing ANY starters.

 

Each QB's preseason performance and position on the "depth chart" after training camp determined how soon and how much action each saw against the opposition's starting unit; Peterman from most accounts, was the most consistent QB during training camp: He got the first preseason start, McCarron was next, and Josh Allen---who the coaches were bringing along slowly---was last to start.

 

Peterman had a really good showing in his first start; McCarron put up pedestrian numbers before getting hurt in his first start and Josh Allen was granted the chance to move up the depth chart, in relief of McCarron ahead of Peterman; Josh Allen started the very next game, had a bad showing, and Peterman came in to relieve him in that game; McCarron recovered from his injury in time to play the final preseason game, and was given the whole game to make up for loss time due to the injury and to reestablish himself in the competition after his poor performance. 

 

McDermott played each QB from a logical standpoint, based on what each showed. 

 

[BuffaloMatt]

9 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Even this guy was feeling toasty watching that. (But not @Kirby Jackson, lol)

 

In all seriousness, what is it about preseason that Peterman rocks like a boss??

playing against twos and threes

[Mr. WEO]

26 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Nope.

 

Totally false.

 

He started game 1 of the 2018 preseason against Carolina.

 

 

Perhaps you consider Kuechly, Davis, Short, Addison, etc to be backups, but Carolina didn't.

 

Scroll up.  This was just covered in this very thread

[billsredneck1]

9 hours ago, The Bills Blog said:

 

This to go along with a passing TD and a rating of 115.3, lol

ya'll wait and see. as soon as carr gets hurt peterman will take the raiders to the post season.....and have an epic shootout with the chad kelly lead colts.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 minute ago, billsredneck1 said:

....and have an epic shootout with the chad kelly lead colts.

Mother, the young Corporal Kelly continues to lead valiantly in light of my recent hobbling...

[LABILLBACKER]

We can all thank Nate for us getting Ed Oliver. A spot or 2 lower in the draft and Ed's gone.

[Boca BIlls]

Hey if they ever have preseason playoffs Peterman might be valuable.

Peterman is the reason that NOTHING done in preseason actually matters.

Edited August 11, 2019 by Boca BIlls

[Mr. WEO]

24 minutes ago, BurpleBull said:

 

 

What do you mean "And after that"? You said he was kept from facing ANY starters.

 

Each QB's preseason performance and position on the "depth chart" after training camp determined how soon and how much action each saw against the opposition's starting unit; Peterman from most accounts, was the most consistent QB during training camp: He got the first preseason start, McCarron was next, and Josh Allen---who the coaches were bringing along slowly---was last to start.

 

Peterman had a really good showing in his first start; McCarron put up pedestrian numbers before getting hurt in his first start and Josh Allen was granted the chance to move up the depth chart, in relief of McCarron ahead of Peterman; Josh Allen started the very next game, had a bad showing, and Peterman came in to relieve him in that game; McCarron recovered from his injury in time to play the final preseason game, and was given the whole game to make up for loss time due to the injury and to reestablish himself in the competition after his poor performance. 

 

McDermott played each QB from a logical standpoint, based on what each showed. 

 

 

I mean "and after that",  he was done facing other teams' starters for the rest of the preseason.  Simple.

 

He played the first 2 series of the whole preseason against starting players and was yanked after his first INT.  He then racked up decent numbers against scrubs. This allowed McD to tout him as the starter because he did not want to start the rookie.  The folly of that plan was immediately evident once the season started.

 

 

1 minute ago, Boca BIlls said:

Hey if they ever have preseason playoffs Peterman might be valuable.

Peterman is the reason that NOTHING done in preseason actually matters.

 

Better not head over to that Oliver vs Nelson thread!!

[Putin]

7 hours ago, SydneyBillsFan said:

I wish this whole laughing at Peterman thing would stop. He is a thoroughly decent kid who tries his best but is simply not cut out for the NFL. Doesn't mean that he deserves to be ridiculed.

Poor Peterman !!!  must make him SAD knowing everyone is laughing at him , EXEPT on the payday he’s probably the ONE who’s doing the laughing all the way to the BANK ? 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

20 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said:

Hey if they ever have preseason playoffs Peterman might be valuable.

Peterman is the reason that NOTHING done in preseason actually matters.

Win the offseason.  Win the preseason.  Win the playoffs. This is getting confusing.  

[Rocket94]

15 minutes ago, Putin said:

Poor Peterman !!!  must make him SAD knowing everyone is laughing at him , EXEPT on the payday he’s probably the ONE who’s doing the laughing all the way to the BANK ? 

This story would make a good book. Very entertaining and fun read! Just something for Peterman to consider down the road!

[Kirby Jackson]

He’s literally the worst player that’s ever played the position.

 

- 356 QBs have thrown at least 130 passes over the last 40 NFL seasons. Nate Peterman ranks DEAD LAST with a passer rating of 32.5. Only one other player (Spergyon Wynn at 39.5) is below a rating of 42.

 

- Nate Peterman’s 9.2 INT % ranks DEAD LAST and only one other guy is above a 7 (Peter Tom Willis at 8.2).

 

Peterman is doing this in an era where guys are lighting it up in the passing game. To further the example, since he entered the league his passer rating is 32.5. The next lowest of ANY QB in that window with at least 130 pass attempts is 60. The next worst QB in the league has been TWICE as good as Nate.

[BurpleBull]

24 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

I mean "and after that",  he was done facing other teams' starters for the rest of the preseason.  Simple.

 

He played the first 2 series of the whole preseason against starting players and was yanked after his first INT.  He then racked up decent numbers against scrubs. This allowed McD to tout him as the starter because he did not want to start the rookie.  The folly of that plan was immediately evident once the season started.

 

 

 

Better not head over to that Oliver vs Nelson thread!!

 

Your initial suggestion was that McDermott kept Peterman from being exposed to a defense's starting unit even once in preseason last year. 

 

There would be no "And after that?", to be posed if what you stated were true. 

 

Simple.

[Jerry Jabber]

Peterman, the Preseason Champion!! Both Peterman and Trent Edwards looked great in preseason, but bombed out in the regular season.

Edited August 11, 2019 by Jerry Jabber

[Nelius]

Let’s not forget that Peterman has already made over 1 million so far for being terrible at his job. I think he’ll be okay if a few people make fun of him.

[uticaclub]

Peterman was our best QB last 2 preseasons

[JohnC]

4 hours ago, thebandit27 said:

 

The game is a full second slower in the preseason. It's the same reason why EJ Manuel typically looked solid against backups.

 

Things happens slower, so the decisions are easier, and a weaker arm is sufficient.

There is a good chance that he is going to make the roster as a backup qb. That's what he is; and that is what his role will be in this league. He is a Matt Barkley type qb who has a specific role. Although his limitations are obvious (as are Barkley's) that doesn't mean that he can't carve out a useful niche and a lucrative career in the league. 

[Kirby Jackson]

24 minutes ago, JohnC said:

There is a good chance that he is going to make the roster as a backup qb. That's what he is; and that is what his role will be in this league. He is a Matt Barkley type qb who has a specific role. Although his limitations are obvious (as are Barkley's) that doesn't mean that he can't carve out a useful niche and a lucrative career in the league. 

Matt Barkley is 174-291, 59.8% completion, 7.4 YPA, 10 TDs & 18 INTs, with a 68.3 rating in his career. 

 

Nate is 68-130, 52.3% completion, 4.2 YPA, 3 TDs & 12 INTs, with a 32.5 rating in his career.

 

Nate ISN’T a “Matt Barkley type.” That’s an insult to Barkley (who hasn’t exactly been Joe Montana). Barkley has been more than twice as effective as Nate. 

 

I promise that I'm done in this thread. Just want to provide FACTS to show just how bad Nate has been. Anyone can pick the worst QB that they can think of with at least 130 attempts and put them side-by-side. He will be worse. He was literally that bad. The worst that has ever played.

Edited August 11, 2019 by Kirby Jackson

[Another Fan]

I say good for him if playing football is something he loves that he hasn’t thrown in the towel.  

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

11 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Matt Barkley is 174-291, 59.8% completion, 7.4 YPA, 10 TDs & 18 INTs, with a 68.3 rating in his career. 

 

Nate is 68-130, 52.3% completion, 4.2 YPA, 3 TDs & 12 INTs, with a 32.5 rating in his career.

 

Nate ISN’T a “Matt Barkley type.” That’s an insult to Barkley (who hasn’t exactly been Joe Montana). Barkley has been more than twice as effective as Nate. 

 

I promise that I'm done in this thread. Just want to provide FACTS to show just how bad Nate has been. Anyone can pick the worst QB that they can think of with at least 130 attempts and put them side-by-side. He will be worse. He was literally that bad. The worst that has ever played.

...perhaps a 2nd chance?....Barkley for Nate straight up?......sympathy vote ??....