Mark Vader Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 38 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: 18 games will not fly with the Player's Association. If the two parties settle on an 18 week season, with 2 bye-weeks, I can see that happening. The owners won't accept that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Limeaid said: That is where the EXTRA money is for players participating in playoffs but lets us expand playoffs into tournament where all teams play. #1 plays #16, #2 plays #15, etc. Interesting concept. Would you eliminate conference distinctions once playoffs are reached ? I’m not sure there is a need any longer for AFC vs NFC Supebowl. 41 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: 18 games will not fly with the Player's Association. If the two parties settle on an 18 week season, with 2 bye-weeks, I can see that happening. I hope not. 18 games is fine, but 2 bye weeks would suck. I recall a season in the 90’s that featured 2 bye weeks and it was brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I can’t comprehend how an 18 game schedule with 2 buys and only 2 preseason games wouldn’t be enough compromise for both sides. How on earth can you field a team with only 53 players when you have to limit them to 16 games? It don't math. You play more that 22 players each week. (I will assume kickers, punters and long snappers are exempt from the 16-game rule?) Edited July 12, 2019 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 This is the worst idea I've ever heard. Your ability to make it into the playoffs should not depend on backup players. This is like taking 2 preseason games and turning them into regular season games. That's nuts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Leverage move imo: owners know the NFLPA is going to have a ton of asks at the next CBA and they need to appear to have some concessions of their own or a lockout is likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Just get rid of 2 preseason games ( the first and last PS games are currently a jokefest) add 2 regular season games and keep it at one bye per team. Tweak the practice rules for more practice time and scrimmages to evaluate / make cuts. Something in there for the players and the owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 hour ago, nucci said: Just do away with preseason games, increase roster size by 8-10 players and go to 18 games ..trying to force beleaguered Owners into Chapter 11 I presume...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Interesting concept. Would you eliminate conference distinctions once playoffs are reached ? I’m not sure there is a need any longer for AFC vs NFC Supebowl. No otherwise it would be #1 vs #32. It would be #1-#16 per conference. https://i.ibb.co/6X1bR4C/Playoffs.png Edited July 12, 2019 by Limeaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Limeaid said: No otherwise it would be #1 vs #32. It would be #1-#16 per conference. https://i.ibb.co/6X1bR4C/Playoffs.png ...do players get extra pre-season games pay compensation or are 4 pre-season games and 16 regular season games all covered under their "season salary"?............. Edited July 12, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...do players get extra pre-season games pay compensation or are 4 pre-season games and 16 regular season games all covered under their "season salary"?............. Players receive game checks only after regular season games. The NFL takes over paying players during the playoffs with a set structure per player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Just now, Boatdrinks said: Players receive game checks only after regular season games. The NFL takes over paying players during the playoffs with a set structure per player. ...thanks bud for clarification...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) More revenue...rich getting richer. More injuries...players objectified assets. Perhaps creates a division within the team? Edited July 12, 2019 by Rocket94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: More revenue...rich getting richer. More injuries...players objectified objects. ...bigger question is limiting players to 16 games played.......thus you have to start others with an 18 game schedule and use other backup players more often,diluting the product......how does "limiting players to 16 games played" work?.....full games?.....cumulative minutes that constitute a "game played( 30, 45, or ??)"?...quite the effed up proposed mess IMO.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 hour ago, nucci said: Just do away with preseason games, increase roster size by 8-10 players and go to 18 games 2 preseason games and add an extra bye week. That would seem to cover the safety bucket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Virgil said: 2 preseason games and add an extra bye week. That would seem to cover the safety bucket. No need for extra bye week. It’s purpose is only to add an extra week of games for networks as it is. 18 regular season games accomplishes this. Every game carries risk, even the preseason as we see each and every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 The NFL needs smaller stadiums, less teams, less games, less exposure and a minor league for GMs, coaches and players to learn - to have sustainable success. It's a bloated, overexposed operation already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...bigger question is limiting players to 16 games played.......thus you have to start others with an 18 game schedule and use other backup players more often,diluting the product......how does "limiting players to 16 games played" work?.....full games?.....cumulative minutes that constitute a "game played( 30, 45, or ??)"?...quite the effed up proposed mess IMO.... Just sounds like a whole lot of trouble to me...on several fronts. Wasn't this proposed a few years ago? It dissolves then resurfaces. Edited July 12, 2019 by Rocket94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 hours ago, nucci said: How do you force a team to play it's backup QB? Is this a serious question? If this rule came to be, do you really think that there's a coach out there who would consider breaking it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 This is ***** stupid. The NFL is turning to ***** before our eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 18 games is cool... Player restrictions? Not so much... it’s interesting though I’ll give it that... It would lead to more young men getting an opportunity to play in the NFL... They definitely would have to increase the roster size and practice squad for it to work that’s for sure which goes back to what I said about more players having an opportunity to play... My initial thoughts on it is, I don’t like the pitch... With more thought put into it and a different pitch, it can be intriguing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I can't believe all of the stupid in this thread. All y'all probably agonize when it's time to buy a new pack of underwear. What if my favorite color isn't available? What if the cotton crop wasn't as soft? Do these make me look fat? Things freaking change. This is an interesting idea and I, for one, am fully on board for an additional 2 meaningful games. All this bitching and moaning is likely coming from fantasy geeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 No, no, no. A million times no. Teams should be able to field their best personnel packages every game. Period. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) I can see the next CBA negotiation is going to be easy sailing. ? Edited July 12, 2019 by Chicken Boo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, RiotAct said: No, no, no. A million times no. Teams should be able to field their best personnel packages every game. Period. Right on. What does this create. It helps foster an increasingly commercialized product. Edited July 12, 2019 by Rocket94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 This is going to destroy the record books. Once prestigious records will now be everyday norms. That pisses me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: This is going to destroy the record books. Once prestigious records will now be everyday norms. That pisses me off. The regular season schedule has been expanded in the past. The records are fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: This is going to destroy the record books. Once prestigious records will now be everyday norms. That pisses me off. Not much impact on individual records since each player still plays 16 games a season. I think they just end up adding a bye week and eliminating a preseason game. The extra tv revenue for the one week will more than make up for one less preseason game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Essentially this is a midway point to eliminating 2 preseason games. I fail to see how this proposal results in more playing time for the players than what they currently go through from the start of training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 hour ago, dpberr said: The NFL needs smaller stadiums, less teams, less games, less exposure and a minor league for GMs, coaches and players to learn - to have sustainable success. It's a bloated, overexposed operation already. Counterpoint: The league makes at least over 8 billion dollars yearly in profit with the current system in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 hours ago, nucci said: How do you force a team to play it's backup QB? when they can't take any more of Tyrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Mister Defense said: Yup, dumb; pure greed from some of the richest men in the country. They care about concussions and CTE!!! this is so stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 The fans don't want this. The players don't want this. The ONLY group that wants this is the owners, which is a group of people who are already incredibly wealthy. They just keep trying to fix what isn't broken. The NFL is the most popular sport in America, and they're hellbent on ruining it in the name of lining their pockets even more than they already do. It's incredibly sad and a real shame to watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Logic said: The fans don't want this. The players don't want this. The ONLY group that wants this is the owners, which is a group of people who are already incredibly wealthy. They just keep trying to fix what isn't broken. The NFL is the most popular sport in America, and they're hellbent on ruining it in the name of lining their pockets even more than they already do. It's incredibly sad and a real shame to watch. I mean it’s a business and I get that. But man, this is a bad look for a league that pretends like they care about the players. It’s why unless for a rare exception, you should never side with an owner over a player. These guys are just pieces of meat to them that they get rid of the second they can’t produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Completely stupid idea imo. Your best players at every position out for at least 2 games of the 18 with your coaching staff picking which two? Sheesh, greed is a mofo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Cripple Creek said: I can't believe all of the stupid in this thread. All y'all probably agonize when it's time to buy a new pack of underwear. What if my favorite color isn't available? What if the cotton crop wasn't as soft? Do these make me look fat? Things freaking change. This is an interesting idea and I, for one, am fully on board for an additional 2 meaningful games. All this bitching and moaning is likely coming from fantasy geeks. Damn dog I think I agree with u but u gotta calm down brother... This just a forum homie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 It would be so hard to manage to only play players to only play in 16 games. The issue I have with it is it seems to punish the healthy teams. If your team is banged up then you wouldn't have to do much at end of the season. But a healthy team may need to cut and sign new players just to be able have people available to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Sammy Watkins be like "I love this rule change!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I love the idea of having an 18 game season with players restricted to 16. It would add another layer of strategy to this amazing game. Do you rest your starting QB the first two games of the season and hope your starter doesn’t get injured? Do you play your backup QB against a team who suffered an injury to their starter? Do you just go all out for the first 16 and hope you have the playoffs locked by week 17? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Two more meaningful games plus an extra bye week effectively extends the regular season by 3 weeks. I'm in favor of that. But I hate the 16 game restriction on players. Increase the roster size instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Bills2ref said: I love the idea of having an 18 game season with players restricted to 16. It would add another layer of strategy to this amazing game. Do you rest your starting QB the first two games of the season and hope your starter doesn’t get injured? Do you play your backup QB against a team who suffered an injury to their starter? Do you just go all out for the first 16 and hope you have the playoffs locked by week 17? Pretty sure the smart teams would wait it out a bit and sit the starting QB due to A)An injury or B)A team they believe they can beat without the starter. It would be stupid to pigeon hole the first two or final two IMO. I could see a team going with the first two games, but definitely not the final two. Analytically, it would be wise to choose the games for a particular reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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