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21 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

I can see him having an immediate impact sorta like Tre White , where we see very early on that this kid can play at a high level. Him and Hughes could be the quickest DE/DT combination in the game

so here come the penalties ?
Hughes gets off so quick he has to be held at times.
Oliver is just going to run over and or around guards Center. and inside tackles.
They will have to call something !

 

but your point is valid.
because no tape. surprise surprise surprise .

 meet Ed Oliver Mrs QB

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Remember going into the 2018 college football season that Ed Oliver was considered the best player in college regardless of position.

 

Fast forward a year later and the Bills got the best player in college football with the 9th overall pick.

 

We shall see how it works out.

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On 6/11/2019 at 7:46 PM, Bills Survivor said:

I think the fact that the first three reactions to your post were sadness, confusion, and skepticism should suggest you reevaluate your outlook.

I’m planning on giving him a laughing emoji or a beer emoji

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Hope our revamped offensive line gives him a good challenge to practice against.

 

If he had joined the team last season, he'd probably think the NFL was going to be a breeze after lining up against our guys. Playing against experienced guys each day will really help him develop that much quicker.

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On 6/12/2019 at 7:22 AM, BillsFan17 said:

Literally the first and only time i have heard that Oliver needs to improve his hands.

 

Really? He gets stuck at times but he’s so young and he didn’t get great coaching. 

 

Hand work, having a pass rush plan and sometimes balance issues but he’s a near perfect prospect. Potential All Pro and DPOY if he puts it all together.

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9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Kyle is an all-time favorite, but the Ed and Jerry show could be very special! Excited for this season. It will be bumpy at times (I expect the Cheaters* to just pound it at us), but they could also get after it! Let us not forget, we are not the only team to struggle against the Pats*, and the tide will turn soon. 

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3 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Kyle is an all-time favorite, but the Ed and Jerry show could be very special! Excited for this season. It will be bumpy at times (I expect the Cheaters* to just pound it at us), but they could also get after it! Let us not forget, we are not the only team to struggle against the Pats*, and the tide will turn soon. 

I think they will run right at Oliver and test how he holds up

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8 hours ago, 2018 Our Year For Sure said:

I think they will run right at Oliver and test how he holds up

I’m sure they will, so it will be interesting to see how the rotation goes. A game of cat and mouse (but with giant cats and mice!). I’m hoping his quick penetration will create havoc when they go away from him, which is all the more reason to go right at him. 

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12 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Kyle is an all-time favorite, but the Ed and Jerry show could be very special! Excited for this season. It will be bumpy at times (I expect the Cheaters* to just pound it at us), but they could also get after it! Let us not forget, we are not the only team to struggle against the Pats*, and the tide will turn soon. 

Especially if they get anything, ANYTHING!, out of Murphy on the left side. I'm hoping McD will scheme more pressure packages as well. 

9 hours ago, 2018 Our Year For Sure said:

I think they will run right at Oliver and test how he holds up

I think that's a good strategy as it has been for decades in the league and I'm sure we will see it early and as often as we can't hold up against it. 

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12 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Especially if they get anything, ANYTHING!, out of Murphy on the left side. I'm hoping McD will scheme more pressure packages as well. 

I think that's a good strategy as it has been for decades in the league and I'm sure we will see it early and as often as we can't hold up against it. 

 

Don't forget Shaq.

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24 minutes ago, Rocket94 said:

I just have a feeling that Oliver will be all over the place wreaking havoc...until teams figure him out.

 

"Figuring him out" will likely lead to opportunities for other players. 

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40 minutes ago, Rocket94 said:

I just have a feeling that Oliver will be all over the place wreaking havoc...until teams figure him out.

 

 

...so Ed "Too Small" Oliver could turn out to be....Ed "Not Too Small After All" Oliver....stay tuned........I'm in.........

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2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

...so Ed "Too Small" Oliver could turn out to be....Ed "Not Too Small After All" Oliver....stay tuned........I'm in.........

Oh yeah...me too! He looks like a spark plug!

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1 hour ago, K-9 said:

I think that's a good strategy as it has been for decades in the league

 

That's part of what I love about the NFL.  For all the pass-happy schemes and attention that QBs get, at the end of the day if you cannot run the ball and defend the run in the NFL, you are toast. 

 

Running up the middle and gaining good yardage is one of the harder things to do, but if you can do it then that threat is something the opposing defense HAS to account for on every play.  Likewise, it's also one of the easier plays to defend, and if your defense can't at least put up a fight in the middle of the trenches then that will filter down to the rest of your defense.  

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33 minutes ago, Capco said:

 

That's part of what I love about the NFL.  For all the pass-happy schemes and attention that QBs get, at the end of the day if you cannot run the ball and defend the run in the NFL, you are toast. 

 

Running up the middle and gaining good yardage is one of the harder things to do, but if you can do it then that threat is something the opposing defense HAS to account for on every play.  Likewise, it's also one of the easier plays to defend, and if your defense can't at least put up a fight in the middle of the trenches then that will filter down to the rest of your defense.  

Like the old saying goes: pass to score, run to win.

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5 hours ago, Augie said:

I’m sure they will, so it will be interesting to see how the rotation goes. A game of cat and mouse (but with giant cats and mice!). I’m hoping his quick penetration will create havoc when they go away from him, which is all the more reason to go right at him. 

 

4 hours ago, K-9 said:

I think that's a good strategy as it has been for decades in the league and I'm sure we will see it early and as often as we can't hold up against it. 

Yeah it's the best way to attack these smaller 3 techs like E.O. and Aaron Donald. Donald is The Dude but you can make hay getting your linemen mauling downhill on him. After the way they abused us on the ground last year we can plan right now on Belichick/McDaniels/Scarnecchia pounding it inside.

 

Donald at least had a much more stout 1-tech in Suh next to him than Star is, it's going to be one of the most interesting things to watch week 4 from where I sit. Hopefully Derm has some kind of plan for it?

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1 hour ago, 2018 Our Year For Sure said:

 

Yeah it's the best way to attack these smaller 3 techs like E.O. and Aaron Donald. Donald is The Dude but you can make hay getting your linemen mauling downhill on him. After the way they abused us on the ground last year we can plan right now on Belichick/McDaniels/Scarnecchia pounding it inside.

 

Donald at least had a much more stout 1-tech in Suh next to him than Star is, it's going to be one of the most interesting things to watch week 4 from where I sit. Hopefully Derm has some kind of plan for it?

I agree. People around him will have to play well, especially our LBs.

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4 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Im seeing "running right at him" as some kind of strategy for opposing offenses

 

He graded out as a "A" run defender in college AS A NOSE TACKLE he is going to be 3 teching in the NFL where he is lined up over a cap......he is gonna be fine.

I think he will be fine, too. But if I were an opposing OC, I’d make it a point to try to manhandle him as often as possible and try wearing him down a bit. Easier said than done, but it’s a time honored strategy. 

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001034348/article/leonard-floyd-among-young-pass-rushers-set-to-break-out-in-19

 

In this four-part series, NFL Network analysts Willie McGinest, Terrell Davis, Reggie Wayne and Gil Brandt examine youngsters who are poised for a breakout campaign. Today, Willie McGinest identifies pass rushers.

Ed Oliver, DT, Buffalo Bills

2019 projection: Seven sacks.

Oliver is in prime position to become a feared pass rusher early in his NFL career. The defensive tackle has the shortest path to the quarterback, and his quickness and explosive get-off should allow him to frequently win against guards. The 6-2, 287-pounder has good hands, moves well in the phone booth and won't be a sitting target in Sean McDermott's defense. Like Allen, Oliver could be a Defensive Rookie of the Year candidate.

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5 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said:

I’d flinch, too.

 

I mean, the man stood on a ***** horse.

Stood on an F**king horse? That took a lot of courage in addition amazing athletic ability just to stay on!

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