wppete Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 14 7 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Ahh, that elusive "it" factor... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 kyle's the man 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Hmm.... no offense to Kyle on this topic, but has he ever seen a real franchise guy up close in his own locker room? The guys a bills legend legend to be sure and he’s sacked a bunch of franchise guys, can’t think of one he’s shared a locker rooom with..... PRIOR TO JOSH, of course... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Hmm.... no offense to Kyle on this topic, but has he ever seen a real franchise guy up close in his own locker room? The guys a bills legend legend to be sure and he’s sacked a bunch of franchise guys, can’t think of one he’s shared a locker rooom with..... PRIOR TO JOSH, of course... You are correct, but that doesn't make Kyle wrong. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 He said “two things” but only listed one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: He said “two things” but only listed one? 1. Physical Talents 2. Connector of People / People are drawn to him 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 27 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Hmm.... no offense to Kyle on this topic, but has he ever seen a real franchise guy up close in his own locker room? The guys a bills legend legend to be sure and he’s sacked a bunch of franchise guys, can’t think of one he’s shared a locker rooom with..... PRIOR TO JOSH, of course... No offense to you but have you ever seen a franchise guy up close in your own locker room. If you have I will take your lead on questioning Kyle. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 30 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Hmm.... no offense to Kyle on this topic, but has he ever seen a real franchise guy up close in his own locker room? The guys a bills legend legend to be sure and he’s sacked a bunch of franchise guys, can’t think of one he’s shared a locker rooom with..... PRIOR TO JOSH, of course... Maybe he's seen enough frauds during his time with the Bills to know the difference? 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 46 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Hmm.... no offense to Kyle on this topic, but has he ever seen a real franchise guy up close in his own locker room? At the Pro Bowl, certainly... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, fansince88 said: No offense to you but have you ever seen a franchise guy up close in your own locker room. If you have I will take your lead on questioning Kyle. Ive seen the same number as KW? 54 minutes ago, Lurker said: At the Pro Bowl, certainly... Good point. I’ll take this answer for the win and stand corrected... you know, if you count that pro bowl time..... or 6 Edited June 3, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: He said “two things” but only listed one? 1 hour ago, Forward Progress said: 1. Physical Talents 2. Connector of People / People are drawn to him Addition can be challenging sometimes. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Hmm.... no offense to Kyle on this topic, but has he ever seen a real franchise guy up close in his own locker room? The guys a bills legend legend to be sure and he’s sacked a bunch of franchise guys, can’t think of one he’s shared a locker rooom with..... PRIOR TO JOSH, of course... He has played with plenty of QB's that were in rooms with Franchise guys... and Who was that one dude you could almost consider franchise? Bledsoe Also he knows very well the things that make QB's not franchise... So him seeing this for the first time should mean something. Edited June 3, 2019 by Boca BIlls 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Hmm.... no offense to Kyle on this topic, but has he ever seen a real franchise guy up close in his own locker room? The guys a bills legend legend to be sure and he’s sacked a bunch of franchise guys, can’t think of one he’s shared a locker rooom with..... PRIOR TO JOSH, of course... He probably knows Tom Brady better than any non-patriot player that's ever played. They watch film of all the great QB's they play. They line up across from them on Sundays. Doesn't take being in the locker room to recognize a good player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Kyle Williams is a class act. I dont see him as a guy who would praise another man unless they earned it. Kyle, has opportunities away from playing and I believe he left Buffalo in a good place. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 minute ago, MJS said: He probably knows Tom Brady better than any non-patriot player that's ever played. They watch film of all the great QB's they play. They line up across from them on Sundays. Doesn't take being in the locker room to recognize a good player. He referenced lockroom traits... either way @Lurker nailed it. A month and a half of pro bowl practices with many of the greats. Completely missed that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Hmm.... no offense to Kyle on this topic, but has he ever seen a real franchise guy up close in his own locker room? The guys a bills legend legend to be sure and he’s sacked a bunch of franchise guys, can’t think of one he’s shared a locker rooom with..... PRIOR TO JOSH, of course... His college years were with Matt Flynn and Jamarcus Russell. Good point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: He referenced lockroom traits... either way @Lurker nailed it. A month and a half of pro bowl practices with many of the greats. Completely missed that Kyle knows what a Franchise player looks like quite well i might imagine. every morning when he gets up to shave 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Did anyone really think Kyle would come out and say "Josh Allen is a bust, and the Bills will rue the day they drafted him!" C'mon... Kyle is a Bills legend, but I'm sure if I spent 10 mins on Google I could find him saying great things about other Bills QB's as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Hmm.... no offense to Kyle on this topic, but has he ever seen a real franchise guy up close in his own locker room? It's safe to say he's played against one or two ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Josh Allen caught all the pokimon with a landline phone 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Did anyone really think Kyle would come out and say "Josh Allen is a bust, and the Bills will rue the day they drafted him!" C'mon... Kyle is a Bills legend, but I'm sure if I spent 10 mins on Google I could find him saying great things about other Bills QB's as well. Did your mother drop you on your head? Why can't you simply accept a positive statement for what it is? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said: Kyle knows what a Franchise player looks like quite well i might imagine. every morning when he gets up to shave (he's growing some stubble there @3rdand12 ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 28 minutes ago, BigDingus said: C'mon... Kyle is a Bills legend, but I'm sure if I spent 10 mins on Google I could find him saying great things about other Bills QB's as well. OK. Go for it. I'll be waiting for your post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Good or bad what do people expect Kyle to say? He’s retired and an avid supporter of the organization. Still very close to many of the players. Whenever the man talks I listen and I listened to this, but going in I knew no way possible it would be negative. Not like Kyle. Too much class. Good luck to him and Allen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Josh Allen can kill two stones with one bird 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) I mentioned something similar in another thread, and I obviously can't speak for the team, but: I can't remember when the fanbase has been this united behind a quarterback for the Bills. I thought, maybe Kelly. But, as an older poster pointed out to me-- even Kelly had his detractors while he was playing, and I can understand why. But, going back through the years: Tyrod, Fitz, Trent, Orton, EJ, Losman... I remember people bagging on Bledsoe. I was skeptical as hell when they drafted Allen. But, man, am I on board now. If there's anyone who thinks we should be going a different direction at QB, please, chime in. I'm not sure you exist. BTW- I effing love Kyle Williams. Edited June 4, 2019 by Rocky Landing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 4 hours ago, BillsPride12 said: Maybe he's seen enough frauds during his time with the Bills to know the difference? Maybe????? ? 11 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: I mentioned something similar in another thread, and I obviously can't speak for the team, but: I can't remember when the fanbase has been this united behind a quarterback for the Bills. I thought, maybe Kelly. But, as an older poster pointed out to me-- even Kelly had his detractors while he was playing, and I can understand why. But, going back through the years: Tyrod, Fitz, Trent, Orton, EJ, Losman... I remember people bagging on Bledsoe. I was skeptical as hell when they drafted Allen. But, man, am I on board now. If there's anyone who thinks we should be going a different direction at QB, please, chime in. I'm not sure you exist. BTW- I effing love Kyle Williams. Even before the first Super Bowl, during those playoffs, I knew guys who hated Kelly. It used to tick me off royally at the time!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 15 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Hmm.... no offense to Kyle on this topic, but has he ever seen a real franchise guy up close in his own locker room? The guys a bills legend legend to be sure and he’s sacked a bunch of franchise guys, can’t think of one he’s shared a locker rooom with..... PRIOR TO JOSH, of course... He has experienced one going against him twice a year and won 2 games during his 15 year tenure...I am sure there are many a plays where Kyle has wondered "How the hell Tom made that play?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPappy Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 17 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Hmm.... no offense to Kyle on this topic, but has he ever seen a real franchise guy up close in his own locker room? The guys a bills legend legend to be sure and he’s sacked a bunch of franchise guys, can’t think of one he’s shared a locker rooom with..... PRIOR TO JOSH, of course... You are correct. So really if anything, he knows what is NOT a franchise QB because he's seen a lot of them. So if he knows what is not a franchise QB based on experience, his intelligence should be able to work out what is a franchise QB thus knowing what he sees in JA is a franchise level QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 1 hour ago, BigPappy said: You are correct. So really if anything, he knows what is NOT a franchise QB because he's seen a lot of them. So if he knows what is not a franchise QB based on experience, his intelligence should be able to work out what is a franchise QB thus knowing what he sees in JA is a franchise level QB. I like this too. He’s seen so much bad, he recognizes different. Fair point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Ah the rose colored tinting of the off season, a hallmark of this franchise the last 20+ years lol. Allen does seem to have a great personality, but he needs to be better than 50% comp, if not, things will derail rather quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 I’ll always give Kyle the benefit of the doubt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, BillsPride12 said: Maybe he's seen enough frauds during his time with the Bills to know the difference? This. This is just as the saying goes. "A smart man learns from his mistakes, a wise man learns from other's mistakes". You don't need to have a franchise QB in your locker room to know what it takes to have one. Edited June 4, 2019 by HuSeYiN_NYC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJBrown7 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 16 hours ago, BigDingus said: Did anyone really think Kyle would come out and say "Josh Allen is a bust, and the Bills will rue the day they drafted him!" C'mon... Kyle is a Bills legend, but I'm sure if I spent 10 mins on Google I could find him saying great things about other Bills QB's as well. I would think that he truly didn't feel that way he'd say nothing at all..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 17 hours ago, BigDingus said: Did anyone really think Kyle would come out and say "Josh Allen is a bust, and the Bills will rue the day they drafted him!" C'mon... Kyle is a Bills legend, but I'm sure if I spent 10 mins on Google I could find him saying great things about other Bills QB's as well. 10 minutes shouldn't be that long then... please post link after you've searched... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 4 hours ago, MacGyver said: Ah the rose colored tinting of the off season, a hallmark of this franchise the last 20+ years lol. Allen does seem to have a great personality, but he needs to be better than 50% comp, if not, things will derail rather quickly. Ah, the cloud to every silver lining.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 21 hours ago, Cripple Creek said: (he's growing some stubble there @3rdand12 ) His wife will make him shave soon enough. thanks for the chuckle good Sir Creek ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 OK MEATBALL.....but what is up with that hat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 6 hours ago, PJBrown7 said: I would think that he truly didn't feel that way he'd say nothing at all..... Thay take is very niave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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