SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 44 minutes ago, mattynh said: No, definitely no. The number 1 thing that can change the offense is the growth of Allen. I think there is way too much excitement over Beasely outputs basically what Zay did last year. 2018: Zay Jones: 16 games, 56 cathes 652 yards 7 TD's 2018 Beasley: 16 games, 65 catches, 672 yards, 3 TD's. I have not heard anything bad about Bease. (other that questionable Bills Fans) 70% catch rate. I mean come on that's damn good. Every Dallas fan I run into says we got a good deal with Cole. 19 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: I dont disagree with what you said about Allen being the most important - but the question was about the "addition" this offseason. Also those comparisons of Jones and Beasley are very deceptive. Jones was in for 941 snaps - Beasley was underutilized - was in for only 712. Cole Beasley had 65 catches on just 87 targets. Zay had 102 targets. All Cole's games were consequential. Zay's best game was the inconsequential last game against Miami. This is not to piss on Zay - but more to say - let us cut Cole Beasley some slack. I beg to differ on one point In any game, every caught or "dropped" pass is consequential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 He'll be an okay not great acquisition. Feel the same way about Brown. Both of them combined though makes a great impact on Allen's development. Hopefully Zay and Foster grow and we have a solid group of guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 John Brown > Cole Beasley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Buddy Hix said: Depends on whether Allen has developed his short game. If so, CB could be a big weapon. What does chipping and putting gotta do with football?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Cole is going to be extremely helpful....but I still say the most important aquisition was Morse 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Cole is going to be extremely helpful....but I still say the most important aquisition was Morse Seconded. With Ford perhaps being the second most important addition. Protection trumps weapons in terms of importance in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 To be honest ... if the FA's they brought in gel. it has to be the O Line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCastleFanBills Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 If he can get open quickly he will become Allen's best friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Beasley's production with the Bill's will depend on Josh's ball placement and eased velocity. Short crossing routes are challenging as we've seen Brady make a career out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Chris farley said: great video. but waiting for the voice to yell "honey badger doesn't play" That is a friggin funny reference! And perfectly applied! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 The exciting thing for me is that people are making good cases for: Beasley Morse Oliver O-Line in general Gore maybe Singletary John Brown Either it's a bunch of mediocrity, which I do not believe is the case (see Oliver, Morse, Beasley is a proven commodity) or the team brought in a lot of good players, which I do think is the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice this Edited May 15, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 he could be. I also think Morse could be as well It will be interesting to see the team come together and will be awesome if we have multiple new guys step in and step up to the point its hard to pick just one guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 "Cole Beasley's wide opennn" - in a Creed voice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 8 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Cole does have sure hands but even he has not caught 62 mph zingers. I do think that he can be the X factor in a few games. But his impact is going to be critically dependent on the OL, deep threats as well as the RB performance. Also we will have to see Allen’s short game touch to see if he can exploit Cole’s strengths. I continue to believe that the most important acquisition in offense was Mitch Morse. He can allow Allen to step into the pocket and go through his progressions. Then we will know how good Allen is as a pocket QB. (He is already great as a scrambling QB). This will also give Cole and others time to do their thing - which is get open. 7 hours ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said: I would Mitch Morse I agree. I like Beasley, and he can become a very important part of this offense. However, Josh Allen has to be given more time in the pocket to throw, this is where our new offensive line comes in, and Morse is the key addition to this line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) I'm not going to say that our receivers were good last year, but they were slightly underrated due to a rookie QB and poor protection. I think that upgrading the OL was the highest priority and for good reason. I also think Singletary is going to surprise a few people. He won't run wide as much as Shady or have many 20+ yard runs, but he'll be good. Edited May 15, 2019 by GreggTX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 5 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: I dont disagree with what you said about Allen being the most important - but the question was about the "addition" this offseason. Also those comparisons of Jones and Beasley are very deceptive. Jones was in for 941 snaps - Beasley was underutilized - was in for only 712. Cole Beasley had 65 catches on just 87 targets. Zay had 102 targets. All Cole's games were consequential. Zay's best game was the inconsequential last game against Miami. This is not to piss on Zay - but more to say - let us cut Cole Beasley some slack. I was not taking a shot at Beasley or anything, I like the signing. I am just trying to set expectations as far as output goes, not that its my job to set expectations but we wont see huge stats out of him. At the end of the day I don't think he moves the needle on wins and losses but also think that about almost any player that is not a QB. We will see what Beasley's catch % is with the Bills and Allen. In terms additions that will contribute to more wins, I would say its the collective changes on the OLINE that will have the most impact. For me to pick one guy, I personally can't pick one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 i think beasley will be the most important if Allen learns where he will be on 3rd on midrange. Beasley seemed to be very adept at getting 7 when 6 is needed, which can be a qbs best friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 8 hours ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Interested in the video but the dude talking 1000mph just kinda ruined it for me. So I couldn't take it anymore after the first few minutes. However, I would say both he and Morse may be the most important addition. Ford could come in and do very well also, rookie or not I expect big things from him. Where you from, Texas? It was pretty easy to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: Where you from, Texas? It was pretty easy to understand. Gave me a headache. Sounded like he drank 150 cups of coffee and then snorted some lines. And nah,not from Texas, don't see what that has to do with anything either, but anyway. Cool, glad you liked it bra. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, mattynh said: I was not taking a shot at Beasley or anything, I like the signing. I am just trying to set expectations as far as output goes, not that its my job to set expectations but we wont see huge stats out of him. At the end of the day I don't think he moves the needle on wins and losses but also think that about almost any player that is not a QB. We will see what Beasley's catch % is with the Bills and Allen. In terms additions that will contribute to more wins, I would say its the collective changes on the OLINE that will have the most impact. For me to pick one guy, I personally can't pick one out. Fair enough. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 In my opinion, Beasley will be an upgrade to McKenzie on offense, but not a huge upgrade. At least, not as big an upgrade as Morse will be to Bodine/Groy. The sum total of the upgrades to our O-line better be greater than the upgrade that Beasley represents, or we’re in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 If he is the most important addition, then it will probably be a disappointing season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 11 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Cole does have sure hands but even he has not caught 62 mph zingers. Allen 62 MPH? That gun is broken. I believe Beasley's ability to improvise down the field will be his greatest asset in this offense. When you think of him, you think of a "checkdown" guy. He is a low YPC guy, but broken plays don't necessarily result in huge gains down the field. Allen will likely still leave the pocket too early on occasion, so you need to have receivers continuing to work after their primary route. I think he's going to be most valuable on these types of plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 3 hours ago, GreggTX said: I'm not going to say that our receivers were good last year, but they were slightly underrated due to a rookie QB and poor protection. I think that upgrading the OL was the highest priority and for good reason. I also think Singletary is going to surprise a few people. He won't run wide as much as Shady or have many 20+ yard runs, but he'll be good. Our receivers were slightly underrated? Oh my. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Would love it to be Ford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallions Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 12 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: If Allen continues to progress and improves his underneath passing game Beasley will be a huge weapon for him. He’s a 3rd down nightmare That IF is the big question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 11 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Aka little twitchy dude who enjoys getting pummeled by linebackers? Yeah he can do that. Are you referring to Beasley, or the annoying narrator of the video? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Are you referring to Beasley, or the annoying narrator of the video? Yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 They'll all help each other. With Brown's speed adding to Foster's, CB's and S's won't be able to play up on the LOS. Beasley will have more room to roam underneath and the run game should open up. Then you have the threat of Josh running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Beasley is the guy I am most excited about. I think he can move the chains if Allen can connect with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 hours ago, BillsfanAZ said: Beasley is the guy I am most excited about. I think he can move the chains if Allen can connect with him. if he's 50% of what Edelman, Amendola or Welker have meant to Brady for Josh, I'll take it....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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