Hard to imagine Derek Anderson making the roster

[Kelly the Dog]

6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Is that actually true?  I mean, I suppose a coach can't take hits, but demoing throws and footwork?  Why not?

I think he can do what you described, I have seen a lot of coaches throw passes. That is different than "taking reps." I'm not sure if there is an actual rule against that but I have not seen it. 

[BillsFan17]

Anderson will be with the team to some capacity.

 

Those here having a pissing match about whether it will be on the roster or as a coach are ridiculous.

 

DOESNT MAKE A LICK OF DIFFERENCE WHAT CAPACITY ANDERSON RETURNS IN!

[Just Joshin']

Not so sure why this is hard.

 

1.  Provides the mentoring Allen needs

2.  Is able to play if called upon with min reps

3.  Jackson is not ready for game day action

 

Only way he does not make the team is if they decide to carry only 2 QBs

 

See, not that hard.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

7 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said:

He’s the elderly vet presence in the QB room that balances out JA.

‘Elder’.  As in ‘elder statesman’.

*

I’m ‘elderly’...

?

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

5 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said:

Anderson will be with the team to some capacity.

 

Those here having a pissing match about whether it will be on the roster or as a coach are ridiculous.

 

DOESNT MAKE A LICK OF DIFFERENCE WHAT CAPACITY ANDERSON RETURNS IN!

 

I think the point of the rather civil discussion you refer to as a "pissing match" is that there are some significant differences.  See above.

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

7 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said:

Anderson will be with the team to some capacity.

 

Those here having a pissing match about whether it will be on the roster or as a coach are ridiculous.

 

DOESNT MAKE A LICK OF DIFFERENCE WHAT CAPACITY ANDERSON RETURNS IN!

 

...Jesus...."Sunday Sand In Thy Jockey Shorts" sure sounds painful.......

[Buffalo Junction]

2 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

‘Elder’.  As in ‘elder statesman’.

*

I’m ‘elderly’...

?

 

Nah. I meant what I typed. In football terms he’s elderly. I’m reserving the right to call Anderson elderly, since he’s my age and just as smashed up.... I had to move south to escape joint and bone pain. ?

[US Egg]

Is it sacrilegious to pray that on a Sunday or on Thanksgiving this year that Anderson or Jackson never set foot on the field in a game ?  

 

 

[PromoTheRobot]

29 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

 

 

 

I see @PromoTheRobot post above, and as he said "good Tyree". I watched , i guess,  the last 4 or 5 UB games, and I thought he was just awful and regressed a bunch during the year. I think he will struggle big time in the NFL, and will be lucky to even make the practice squad. I guess you can say for $75 K, good risk, but no way is he taking a roster spot this year IMO.

 

I will post some bad Tyree video once I find some in YouTube. If you don't feel like waiting search for games vs Army, Ohio and Northern Illinois.

 

The Rutgers game is another example of good Tyree.

Edited April 28, 2019 by PromoTheRobot

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

Nah. I meant what I typed. In football terms he’s elderly. I’m reserving the right to call Anderson elderly, since he’s my age and just as smashed up.... I had to move south to escape joint and bone pain. ?

Kid, I have pairs of socks older than you...?

[Kelly the Dog]

Just now, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Kid, I have pairs of socks older than you...?

I got stuff in the fridge!

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

5 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

It's easy if you try.  Josh Allen's style of play makes him open to injury.  If that happens I don't see McBeane being comfortable with Jackson as the backup (he'll pry be relegated to the practice squad).  It's possible all three (Allen, Barkley, Anderson) make the 53 man roster and they won't dress Anderson unless there's an injury to Allen.

 

Agree And you cut TJ and assign him to practice squad.  If another team signs him good for him.  This guy was undrafted for a reason.  Too many Buffalo fans are thinking with their heart here and not there head.

 

Anderson doesn't get any salary until week 1 other than signing bonus, so would be somewhat surprised to see him voluntarily retire during camp.  I'd be a little pissed if I were him if Buffalo were to cut him, certainly pissed enough that if Allen were to get hurt and they call me to come back, I'd then maybe think with my heart instead of head and tell them no!

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said:

I got stuff in the fridge!

Homemade penicillin is frowned upon.  ?

[Buffalo Junction]

11 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Kid, I have pairs of socks older than you...?

But how many times have they been sewn back together. Gotta factor in the Humpty Dumpty effect. ?

Edited April 28, 2019 by Buffalo Junction

[Dkollidas]

I think he makes it as the 3rd QB. I think he’s a good locker room presence for Allen’s development. He won’t be active, and Tyree can be put into the practice squad if need be as well. 

 

 

[Punching Bag]

4 hours ago, ALF said:

Anderson is $1.1M for 2019 . A shift to coach if roster spot needed could be done and back to player again if needed.

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/derek-anderson-1422/

 

There are rules against it.  There was a team which used to stash players on non-player lists and rule was created.  Not sure if it is enforced but expect a protest if Anderson goes on coaching / front office staff and back to QB.

[Jerome007]

Unless they find a better QB, Anderson is THE perfect #3 QB. Ready with minimum preparation, experienced to have the respect of the players, not making waves, THERE TO SUPPORT ALLEN, and only 1M salary. Why get rid of him this year, again, unless suddenly a better QB pops along? In a perfect scenario, Josh stays on the field for all reps but you need 3 QBs on the roster. An experienced coach/mentor one is perfect for a 2nd year budding superstar.

 

 

 

 

 

[The Jokeman]

7 hours ago, papazoid said:

Anderson will make the team......as a COACH !!

 

keep the rookie from UB on the roster

Tyree can develop on the Practice Squad. Anderson is a good mentor QB to keep on the 53.

[mcdamit]

he will be on the roster all year.  He makes a ton more as a player than a coach.  Jackson will spend the year on the practice squad.   

[ganesh]

4 hours ago, NewDayBills said:

You would hope that Allen would be so far along at this point that he does not need Anderson nor Barkley for that matter. Maybe the Buffalo kid creeps up and takes that #3 job, which is what I'm hoping will happen.

Allen will need both Barkley and Anderson on the sidelines for the next two years..especially when we make the playoffs.

[Victory Formation]

1 minute ago, ganesh said:

Allen will need both Barkley and Anderson on the sidelines for the next two years..especially when we make the playoffs.

We should worry at that point. Allen better play lights out in 2019, no excuses.

[The Senator]

6 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said:

Tyree will be on practice squad. Unless he's just lights out in preseason no team is going to add him to their active roster. 

 

I don’t see that happening.  I’m sure the Bills would love to hide him there, but I doubt he’d clear waivers.  And even if he does, it won’t be long before someone claims him, and  then the Bills will have to sign him to the active roster or lose him.

 

The only way he stays is if he has a phenomenal camp and beats out Anderson for the 3rd spot, or Anderson retires.

 

JMO

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[NoSaint]

4 hours ago, Jerome007 said:

Unless they find a better QB, Anderson is THE perfect #3 QB. Ready with minimum preparation, experienced to have the respect of the players, not making waves, THERE TO SUPPORT ALLEN, and only 1M salary. Why get rid of him this year, again, unless suddenly a better QB pops along? In a perfect scenario, Josh stays on the field for all reps but you need 3 QBs on the roster. An experienced coach/mentor one is perfect for a 2nd year budding superstar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I suppose the debate is do you  protect him or do you protect a guy like sills, the latter picked tight end, the new safety, maybe carry an extra cb or olineman. Especially with salary fully guaranteed if he makes week 1s roster

 

plenty of teams carry 2 and keep extras on speed dial. If Barkley is #2 I think we’d be safe telling him to stay in shape and ready for a call that we would make worth his while.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

47 minutes ago, The Senator said:

 

I don’t see that happening.  I’m sure the Bills would love to hide him there, but I doubt he’d clear waivers.  And even if he does, it won’t be long before someone claims him, and  then the Bills will have to sign him to the active roster or lose him.

 

The only way he stays is if he has a phenomenal camp and beats out Anderson for the 3rd spot, or Anderson retires.

 

JMO

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No one drafted him, why would they want him in a few months?

[row_33]

Last season I kept reading on TSW how he was the answer to beat the Pats, gonna dominate them!!!

 

the Bill Simmons podcast carrying on with derisive laughter over the Bills doing this let me know I wasn’t the crazy one

 

 

[The Senator]

10 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said:

No one drafted him, why would they want him in a few months?

 

That’s a valid argument, especially if Buffalo was his only option.

 

A few years back, Green Bay hid Graham Harrell on the practice squad - Buffalo tried to sign him and Green Bay had to match our offer and sign him to their active roster.

 

Love to have TJ here, either as 3rd QB or practice squad.  We’ll see what happens.

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Edited April 28, 2019 by The Senator

[wppete]

Cut him and then sign him as a coach. Or he goes down with a mysterious concussion like last year. 

Edited April 28, 2019 by wppete

[PirateHookerMD]

1 hour ago, The Senator said:

 

I don’t see that happening.  I’m sure the Bills would love to hide him there, but I doubt he’d clear waivers.  And even if he does, it won’t be long before someone claims him, and  then the Bills will have to sign him to the active roster or lose him.

 

The only way he stays is if he has a phenomenal camp and beats out Anderson for the 3rd spot, or Anderson retires.

 

JMO

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guy was just undrafted and we are fearful of him clearing waivers? If someone claims him and puts him on their 53 man roster good for him. 

 

QBs are overdrafted. If anyone really wanted the project they would have thrown a 7th at it. 

 

Its a good fit for Tyree, he can save the expense and hassle of moving, and hopefully get the coaching and practice squad experience he needs. 

Edited April 28, 2019 by PirateHookerMD

[Buffalo_Stampede]

17 minutes ago, The Senator said:

 

That’s a valid argument, especially if Buffalo was his only option.

 

A few years back, Green Bay hid Graham Harrell on the practice squad - Buffalo tried to sign him and Green Bay had to match our offer and sign him to their active roster.

 

Love to have TJ here, either as 3rd QB or practice squad.  We’ll see what happens.

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Its a fluid situation but right now I would believe the Bills view him as a PS player.

[JimmyNoodles]

Last year it was easy to keep 3 QBs because some parts of the roster stunk (Oline and WR). This year is a lot different. We likely have real talent available for that extra spot. I can see the Bills keeping 7 WRs, as an example, and that extra WR comes from dumping the 3rd QB.

[ColoradoBills]

36 minutes ago, JimmyNoodles said:

Last year it was easy to keep 3 QBs because some parts of the roster stunk (Oline and WR). This year is a lot different. We likely have real talent available for that extra spot. I can see the Bills keeping 7 WRs, as an example, and that extra WR comes from dumping the 3rd QB.

 

Earlier in the year I would of said no way Anderson is not on the team all year.

Now I can see that may change if really desirable players may get cut/traded.

 

The thing is any decision on this is over 4 months away and we just got to let it play out for now.

[The Senator]

58 minutes ago, PirateHookerMD said:

 

guy was just undrafted and we are fearful of him clearing waivers? If someone claims him and puts him on their 53 man roster good for him. 

 

QBs are overdrafted. If anyone really wanted the project they would have thrown a 7th at it. 

 

Its a good fit for Tyree, he can save the expense and hassle of moving, and hopefully get the coaching and practice squad experience he needs. 

 

Actually, it’s a terrible fit for Tyree.  Unless he absolutely kills it in camp, he won’t make the cut.  And if he sees preseason action and looks any good, he most certainly won’t clear waivers. 

 

He should have stayed at UB for his senior year, or tried to transfer to a bigger program.

 

BTW, when you’re a college junior, moving expenses are mainly gas money.

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[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

Many on this board last year were stating how the team was crazy to expect a 5th round draft pick to be in anyway productive as a QB.  In hindsight they were correct, now we want to keep an un-drafted  guy at the expense of Anderson?

 

Barring an amazing training camp from him, you cut him and assign him to practice squad, if another team else signs him, so be it, not a big loss.

[Mat68]

Only way is he just is added to the coaching if Tayree Jackson is too good to place on PS.  

[without a drought]

3 hours ago, The Senator said:

 

I don’t see that happening.  I’m sure the Bills would love to hide him there, but I doubt he’d clear waivers.  And even if he does, it won’t be long before someone claims him, and  then the Bills will have to sign him to the active roster or lose him.

 

The only way he stays is if he has a phenomenal camp and beats out Anderson for the 3rd spot, or Anderson retires.

 

JMO

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Why didn't one of the team who would do this just draft him in the 7th or sign him as a udfa.

 

Teams didn't seem interested to put him on their 90 player roster, but they'll be knocking down the door to get him on their final 53, I don't follow.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

7 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

There are rules against it.  There was a team which used to stash players on non-player lists and rule was created.  Not sure if it is enforced but expect a protest if Anderson goes on coaching / front office staff and back to QB.

 

I'd like to know more about this, any chance you could point me at 'em (the rules)

 

[Punching Bag]

12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I'd like to know more about this, any chance you could point me at 'em (the rules)

 

 

Did not look at the rules.  Just remember an incident (90s or earlier) where a team was stashing players it could not be put on active roster.

[TigerJ]

I don't know what's going to happen with Derek Anderson.  Clearly, he has more value as a mentor to Josh Allen and possibly Tyree Jackson than as a player, but the Bills already have a QB coach.  If the Bills wanted to make DA a coach, they had an opportunity back in January.  He could have some value as a third string emergency QB.  Tyree Jackson is not ready for that role IMO.  It would be somewhat out of the box thinking, but I suppose he could retire and they could keep him on as an assistant QB coach or something to help mentor the youngsters, then if in the unfortunate circumstance where both Allen and Barkley were injured and out for an extended period, (multiple games) Anderson could unretire again.  

[The Senator]

27 minutes ago, without a drought said:

Why didn't one of the team who would do this just draft him in the 7th or sign him as a udfa.

 

Teams didn't seem interested to put him on their 90 player roster, but they'll be knocking down the door to get him on their final 53, I don't follow.

 

Never said teams would be “knocking down the door”.  No one was knocking down the door for Graham Harrell ‘til the Bills had injury problems, became desperate for QB help, and tried to sign him off GB’s practice squad.

 

Things change, injuries happen.  Like I said, if he has a great camp and shines in the preseason, some teams will take a second look.

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[without a drought]

3 minutes ago, The Senator said:

 

Never said teams would be “knocking down the door”.  No one was knocking down the door for Graham Harrell ‘til the Bills had injury problems, became desperate for QB help, and tried to sign him off GB’s practice squad.

 

Things change, injuries happen.  Like I said, if he has a great camp and shines in the preseason, some teams will take a second look.

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You did state that he wouldn't clear waivers, not that a team desperate because of injuries would sign him.