What do you want to see this offseason: TRADES

[Doc Brown]

58 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

There is ZERO chance Minnesota let’s Rudolph out the door. They can trade/release plenty of people before they’d ever consider letting him go. 

They may need the money to resign Richardson and Barr.  Plus, Thielen's contract will need to be extended at some point.  They may move on from him since it's a good draft for TE's.

[Rc2catch]

36 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

They may need the money to resign Richardson and Barr.  Plus, Thielen's contract will need to be extended at some point.  They may move on from him since it's a good draft for TE's.

I can’t see it this year. 

I could see them dumping 3-4 guys way before they’d even consider Rudolph. There’s already been talk of them trading Xavier Rhodes. 

He is huge for their system and the run game. 

I would take him in a heartbeat I think he’s capable of being a top 5 tight end. I don’t think they’ll ship him away though 

[formerlyofCtown]

12 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I feel like I’ve been wishing for a WR trade for while now so that’s no surprise. The reason is that it seems like the only route to obtain a good, experienced WR. I think the Bills will need to overpay in the FA market for anyone decent just due to the still evolving QB/passing offense. Any good WR with options would not have a strong interest in going to the Bills imo. And while I definitely still want to draft one relatively high in addition to trading for one, it’s rare to get WR1 production out of a rookie and that’s what they need. They also really need a strong reliable veteran presence in the WR group. I don’t have a name in mind... because it would be someone not “on the market” right now

Actually I think speedy deep threats would be interested but we have a good one already.

6 hours ago, Golden Goat said:

 

So trading for a vet linebacker can be an asset for our younger defensive players -- but trading for a WR to help mentor our younger offensive players has "disaster written all over it?"

 

 

I think people cringe around here due to the last few trades involving WRs.  Then you have the crowd that now thinks every UDFA will be Foster.

Lets trade down with Washington and trade the 15th overall pick for Brady and bench him for the rest of his career.?

Edited February 12, 2019 by formerlyofCtown

[formerlyofCtown]

9 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

How does that have disaster written all over it?

 

The Bills receiving corps as a whole is pretty bad at the moment. Considering the lack of recievers available in FA a trade is the best route. 

 

Don't think the Bills can afford the risk of counting on a early round draft pick to fill the void/be the only big addition at WR. IMO a trade for a big time reicever such as Julio or Bryant would go a long way for this offense and Allen. 

Though I agree with on Julio or another top vet being a positive in a big way.  I think you are still stuck in the first half of the season with our WR core.  Over the last 7 games of the season Foster was one of the top if not the top Rookie WR.  Though he needs to improve furth, Zay actually started catching footballs rather than dropping hot potatos and McKenzie seems to be a useful weapon.  I also think the Duke signing will be one of the best signings of the offseason for any team.(Thats my bold prediction for next season).  To me Disaster would mean we finished the season with "Benjamin the Hut" as our number 1 and would need 3 starters.

8 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Maybe some pottery.

No you need soft clay to make pottery, his hands have apparently turned to stone.

[formerlyofCtown]

7 hours ago, Golden Goat said:

 

So trading for a vet linebacker can be an asset for our younger defensive players -- but trading for a WR to help mentor our younger offensive players has "disaster written all over it?"

 

 

Especially when we already have a Vet LB but no Vet WR.

Yes we must fix our top 10 D(probably more realistic than #2) so it stops draging down our bottom 5 Offense.  

6 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

I don't either, and that is unfortunate because some big, ballsy trades could really turn this team into a Super Bowl contender next season. 

 

Whats the point of all the cap space if you aren't going to use it though? They harp on resigning their own, but that is YEARS down the line.

They will spend some of it because they have to spend 85% over a 3 year period.

[RyanC883]

7 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said:

Trade for Nick Chubb or Duke Johnson.

D. Johnson would be nice.  Chubb unlikely to be available.  

[CaptnCoke11]

10 hours ago, Rufridr101 said:

I understand people wanting to trade for a receiver but I don't think it's the best recipe for success. Trading for a veteran receiver with a young quarterback has disaster written all over it.  One trade that makes sense for the bills is Sean Lee here's why, teams hammered us with running game because of tremaine Edmunds lack of instincts.  Sean Lee has one year left on his deal and Dallas needs cap space.  This isn't going to be overly expensive and can help our young linebackers tremendously.  Sean Lee would play a early running downs and mentoring the young bucks 

I wonder what three games he’d be healthy for 

[Devilmann]

17 hours ago, Rufridr101 said:

I understand people wanting to trade for a receiver but I don't think it's the best recipe for success. Trading for a veteran receiver with a young quarterback has disaster written all over it.  One trade that makes sense for the bills is Sean Lee here's why, teams hammered us with running game because of tremaine Edmunds lack of instincts.  Sean Lee has one year left on his deal and Dallas needs cap space.  This isn't going to be overly expensive and can help our young linebackers tremendously.  Sean Lee would play a early running downs and mentoring the young bucks 

I’d rather keep the draft pick and sign Thomas Davis instead of trading for a guy that’s injured 95% of the time

[CSBill]

Not sure for what (as mentioned, WR, O-line, TE, etc.), but I believe McCoy would be bait to the right team--a team looking for the right part to get them to the top.

[formerlyofCtown]

7 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

It was nice to see Foster emerge later in the season, but they would be foolish to be all in with him despite that strong 2nd half of the season. 

 

They need at least two more legit recievers. At least, IMO. 

That wouldnt be bad thing for priority #2.  With Oline being #1.

[The Now Moment]

22 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

I don't think we draft 10 players, so either the picks are used to move around the board, or we make trades for young vets. Five trade targets come to mind for me. 

 

Tyler Higbee - Tight end of the Rams, has lost some playing time to Gerald Everett and is running as a #2, but he has #1 potential. Apparently the Vikings tried to swipe him for a 7th round pick and the Rams wanted a 6th. I would totally offer a 6th round pick for Higbee. His numbers aren't huge, but he shows lots of flashes of potential as both a receiver and blocker. I think he'd be a great fit. I think he could do more if he was more of a focal point in an offense. 26 years old. 

 

Forrest Lamp - Guard Chargers. This guy had huge potential in the draft a couple of years ago as a left tackle from WKU, who was being converted to guard. Great feet, power and instincts. He tore his ACL before his rookie season. Was ready to go this year and was left on the bench, mostly a healthy scratch. He seems like the type of guy San Diego may just want to move on from and recoup what they could at this point. I am not sure why they didn't get him on teh field at all, but seems like a nice buy low. I'd offer them a 5th or 6th. 24, about to be 25 years old. 

 

Alex Lewis - Guard Ravens. Again another guy who could be a buy low type. Lewis has been in an out of the lineup as a guard. He's a former 4th round pick and tackle who was converted to guard. When he's played, he's been very good. He is entering teh last year of his rookie contract and I don't think Baltimore can re-sign him and they have some depth to replace him. He would be a huge upgrade if acquired. 26 years old, turning 27. 

 

Allen Robinson - WR Bears. He got a big contract from the Bears, but he is replaceable for them. With the emergence of Anthony Miller, perhaps they look to cut ties. If they trade him pre 3/15/19, they get some huge cap savings. I'd bet they would be willing to part with him for next to nothing if offered a trade before 3/15. Robinson is just 25 years old turning 26. 

 

Michael Brockers - DT Rams. So Brockers, like Robinson, could probably be had for almost nothing if a trade is made pre 3/15. The Rams get huge cap savings and a miniscule amount of dad cap if they can get someone to trade for Brockers pre 3/15. Dude is still very young and a perfect fit as a 3 tech in our defense. 28 years old. 

 

I like the thinking that went into the post but why would the Chargers trade a solid player on their rookie contract for a lowball offer?  Makes zero sense.  If anything, he'd make great depth for that team if he is indeed a solid player.  What's in it for the Chargers to make this deal?  

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Not a big fan - but the WRs available in FA aren't great - Maybe see what it would take to pry agholor from the eagles.  Could be a 1 year bridge while a rookie gets up to speed, and he's on his 5th year option and the Eagles are already over the cap before they tag Foles.  If he does well and leaves, we can get a comp pick - if he doesn't we probably didn't give up a ton.

 

Slot flexibility, but enough size to play outside.  Good route runner.  Can return punts/kicks in a pinch.  

[MrEpsYtown]

2 hours ago, Buffalo30 said:

I like the thinking that went into the post but why would the Chargers trade a solid player on their rookie contract for a lowball offer?  Makes zero sense.  If anything, he'd make great depth for that team if he is indeed a solid player.  What's in it for the Chargers to make this deal?  

 

I think you make a great point. I'm assuming they just don't like him and would simply want to get what they can. He was a healthy scratch the entire season, so they didn't even look to him to be the primary back up in the interior. He might technically be damaged goods, but for us, it is worth the risk. For them it's just about getting something for a guy whose prospect shine still might be there a bit. 

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

I think you make a great point. I'm assuming they just don't like him and would simply want to get what they can. He was a healthy scratch the entire season, so they didn't even look to him to be the primary back up in the interior. He might technically be damaged goods, but for us, it is worth the risk. For them it's just about getting something for a guy whose prospect shine still might be there a bit. 

 

Drafted by a different regime for a different scheme. We have agreed on this before Eps - I'm totally on board with offering something for Lamp. Would be all over Robinson as well if available - think the Bears would be mad to trade him. Could live with Lewis though I see him as a swing / backup / low end starter type. Brockers is a move I make later in the offseason if I think I have the roster in a position to compete immediately. Hard pass on the Tight End. There are better options in FA.

[SDubills]

A number 2 RB who can block. 

A BIG posession WR (megatron type)

A Stevie Johnson type WR who can get open, with better hands

One or 2 veteran OLine man

[BillsCelticsAngelsBama]

On ‎2‎/‎11‎/‎2019 at 8:43 AM, YoloinOhio said:

I wonder if they could get anything for Clay. 

Yep.... Maybe some clay or some nice rocks

[The Now Moment]

5 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

I think you make a great point. I'm assuming they just don't like him and would simply want to get what they can. He was a healthy scratch the entire season, so they didn't even look to him to be the primary back up in the interior. He might technically be damaged goods, but for us, it is worth the risk. For them it's just about getting something for a guy whose prospect shine still might be there a bit. 

I just don't think that they are a good enough offensive line to give up on a second round pick so early.  He's under a very reasonable contract and isn't hurting anyone.  Unless a team really wants him and puts up an enticing offer than they might move him but a 5th rounder doesn't do much IMO.  

[YoloinOhio]

9 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Drafted by a different regime for a different scheme. We have agreed on this before Eps - I'm totally on board with offering something for Lamp. Would be all over Robinson as well if available - think the Bears would be mad to trade him. Could live with Lewis though I see him as a swing / backup / low end starter type. Brockers is a move I make later in the offseason if I think I have the roster in a position to compete immediately. Hard pass on the Tight End. There are better options in FA.

It was Alynn’s call. He didn’t want to break up the 5 that had started up until the bye week when Lamp was ready to play.  

Quote

Obviously, I wanted to play," Lamp said. "I really wasn't ready until Week 7 or Week 8, right after that bye week. And by then it's just too late -- that's what Coach Lynn told me. You have an O-line that's been playing together since April 16, when OTAs started, and they've been together for three or four months, so you're not going to break that up."

Edited February 13, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[Misterbluesky]

9 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Drafted by a different regime for a different scheme. We have agreed on this before Eps - I'm totally on board with offering something for Lamp. Would be all over Robinson as well if available - think the Bears would be mad to trade him. Could live with Lewis though I see him as a swing / backup / low end starter type. Brockers is a move I make later in the offseason if I think I have the roster in a position to compete immediately. Hard pass on the Tight End. There are better options in FA.

I got a hundred bucks that says you would be all in on Cook...

[GunnerBill]

6 hours ago, Misterbluesky said:

I got a hundred bucks that says you would be all in on Cook...

 

You would lose your 100 bucks. 

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

I remember a while ago hearing something along the lines of a 4th rounder for Desean Jackson.

 

For me, that honestly would be a nice pickup. It would effectively be a one year rental, but it would give Allen a #1 target who can take advantage of his arm strength.

[JaCrispy]

On 2/11/2019 at 8:23 AM, Buffalo03 said:

Julio Jones or AJ Green

Throw in Isabella in the mid rounds and that sounds like an explosive offense

[WizdomCalling]

The only trade I could think of is Trading for AB, but since this is a dream scenario... Can we trade for Luke kuechly?

[Kirby Jackson]

I’ll throw a name out and it is someone that I wanted last year. How about Stefon Diggs for a 2nd? He just signed a reasonable extension and would instantly give us that #1 WR. Minnesota is up against the cap and were nowhere near the team that they expected to be. They already have Thielen (who I would take as well) and have all of that money tied up in Cousins. It may make sense for them to look to someone like Deebo Samuel in round 2 and save the $$. I’m not sure of the breakdown of Diggs contract but assuming that there’s a minimal cap hit to the Vikings it may be an option? 

[GunnerBill]

14 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’ll throw a name out and it is someone that I wanted last year. How about Stefon Diggs for a 2nd? He just signed a reasonable extension and would instantly give us that #1 WR. Minnesota is up against the cap and were nowhere near the team that they expected to be. They already have Thielen (who I would take as well) and have all of that money tied up in Cousins. It may make sense for them to look to someone like Deebo Samuel in round 2 and save the $$. I’m not sure of the breakdown of Diggs contract but assuming that there’s a minimal cap hit to the Vikings it may be an option? 

 

I think it is a pipe dream but I'd do it in a nano second.

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

I think it is a pipe dream but I'd do it in a nano second.

It’s certainly a “best case scenario” but at least there is SOME level of logic to it. The Vikings are a flawed team. If they had 3 picks in the top 50 (or whatever it is) they could do something like: Polite, Samuel and Lindstrom. 

 

I don’t think that there is a deal there to be had but the Bills should at least pick up the phone. 

[YoloinOhio]

53 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’ll throw a name out and it is someone that I wanted last year. How about Stefon Diggs for a 2nd? He just signed a reasonable extension and would instantly give us that #1 WR. Minnesota is up against the cap and were nowhere near the team that they expected to be. They already have Thielen (who I would take as well) and have all of that money tied up in Cousins. It may make sense for them to look to someone like Deebo Samuel in round 2 and save the $$. I’m not sure of the breakdown of Diggs contract but assuming that there’s a minimal cap hit to the Vikings it may be an option? 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/minnesota-vikings/stefon-diggs-16872/

If I’m reading it right I don’t see a dead cap hit if traded... could be wrong 

Edited February 13, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[wppete]

It’s going to be a wild offseason this year in the nfl. Trdaes, Release, FA, draft ext.Already stared with Flacco trade and Antonio brown trade that should be coming before March 13. Hakeem Hunt to Cleveland ect.

I think the Bills are going to be active. 

 

 

Edited February 13, 2019 by wppete

[Big Blitz]

OBJ!  Let's go!!

 

 

In his weekly mailbag, Jay Glazer of The Athletic said he expects the trade market to be very active across the NFL this offseason, the same way it has been over the past year with players like Jimmy Garoppolo, Khalil Mack and Amari Cooper changing teams. He mentioned how some teams tried to trade for Beckham at the trade deadline this past season, and he predicted that the Giants will pull the trigger on moving OBJ in the coming months.

 

 

https://larrybrownsports.com/football/giants-could-trade-odell-beckham/484503

[Jay_Fixit]

4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’ll throw a name out and it is someone that I wanted last year. How about Stefon Diggs for a 2nd? He just signed a reasonable extension and would instantly give us that #1 WR. Minnesota is up against the cap and were nowhere near the team that they expected to be. They already have Thielen (who I would take as well) and have all of that money tied up in Cousins. It may make sense for them to look to someone like Deebo Samuel in round 2 and save the $$. I’m not sure of the breakdown of Diggs contract but assuming that there’s a minimal cap hit to the Vikings it may be an option? 

Of course. Diggs is pretty much a #1 but I’d bed Minny would trade Thielen before Diggs. Thielen is 3 years older and not as explosive.

 

However, I doubt they’d trade either.

[Aussie Joe]

I would like to see Beane make a play for Mohamed Sanu...

 

I think he is still playing well, will just have turned 30 when the season starts, and would be a good leader for the other young guys on the team ( including hopefully a highly drafted prospect this year)..

 

His contract still has two years left at a very reasonable $6M per year which will probably be about half what Golden Tate ends up with..

 

I think a 5th would get it done...

 

Probably unlikely that Atlanta lets him go, but I think its more of a possibility then them letting Julio go...

 

 

 

 

[Dkollidas]

I would love to trade down in the draft. I think the free agent money will go towards immediately protecting Allen. Similar to what the Rams did for Goff.  The receivers and tight ends aren’t elite enough to draft at 9. Trade down to 15 with Washington and get an extra 2nd, or trade down with Oakland and get their two late 1st’s. 

 

Imagine getting Harry or Metcalf AND Hockenson or Fant in the 1st Round and having a 2nd to grab another lineman like Risner, Deiter, or Jenkins. All could play center guard or even right tackle. 

[RochesterRob]

On 2/11/2019 at 12:56 PM, Logic said:

The Bills could sure use a good veteran WR. The problem is that in order to obtain one, they'd need to part with high draft picks. I don't see the Bills, who are still in the early stages of a rebuild/youth movement, wanting to part with high picks -- which represent young, cheap labor -- in order to obtain older, more expensive players.

 

  My gut says the Bills are not trading for a receiver.  Maybe look for a surprise cut during camp if another team has another prospect ready to emerge.

16 hours ago, Dkollidas said:

I would love to trade down in the draft. I think the free agent money will go towards immediately protecting Allen. Similar to what the Rams did for Goff.  The receivers and tight ends aren’t elite enough to draft at 9. Trade down to 15 with Washington and get an extra 2nd, or trade down with Oakland and get their two late 1st’s. 

 

Imagine getting Harry or Metcalf AND Hockenson or Fant in the 1st Round and having a 2nd to grab another lineman like Risner, Deiter, or Jenkins. All could play center guard or even right tackle. 

  Buffalo's leverage diminished greatly with the pending Flacco to Denver trade.

[Augie]

I’d be good with moving around and ending up with an extra pick in an early round next year. They say next years picks get “discounted” by a round or so because the FO wants to stay employed, but I think these guys are safe and next years draft IS going to happen. It seems you might get good value if you take advantage of the “discount”. 

 

Is that crazy? 

[Toronto Bills Fan]

I fully expect Beane to make one big move this offseason via trade. For who, I have no idea. Anyone who's been following this regime knows that Beane isn't afraid to pull the trigger, and we now have the ability to take on bigger contracts which makes such a move all the more likely.

 

Do not be surprised if Beane trades down in the draft, accumulates more picks, and gives up a second/third for a vet receiver, pass rusher or OL that another team is trying to dump for cap reasons. There are plenty of teams in cap hell right now that would be willing to move vet pieces for below their true market value, in attempt to clear up some cap space. Given our situation, we should definitely looking to be a willing trade partner on the other end of such a deal, and Bean knows this. 

 

I expect something relatively big to go down soon. Should be an exciting offseason!

[BADOLBILZ]

On 2/14/2019 at 5:03 PM, Augie said:

I’d be good with moving around and ending up with an extra pick in an early round next year. They say next years picks get “discounted” by a round or so because the FO wants to stay employed, but I think these guys are safe and next years draft IS going to happen. It seems you might get good value if you take advantage of the “discount”. 

 

Is that crazy? 

 

 

This years draft is pretty deep.

 

And while that may seem like a subjective take.........the fact that there is a record amount of underclassmen declared is a good indicator that next years might not be so good.

 

So a second rounder next year might net you the same kind of player you'd get in the 3rd or even 4th this year.  

 

That's to say nothing about the time value of the pick.

 

It would have to be a pretty great value to trade out of this draft, IMO.

Edited February 16, 2019 by BADOLBILZ

[Augie]

16 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

This years draft is pretty deep.

 

And while that may seem like a subjective take.........the fact that there is a record amount of underclassmen declared is a good indicator that next years might not be so good.

 

So a second rounder this year might net you the same kind of player you'd get in the 3rd or even 4th this year.  

 

That's to say nothing about the time value of the pick.

 

It would have to be a pretty great value to trade out of this draft, IMO.

 

Good point, but unless we combine some picks to move around, 10 new draft pickups is a lot. I have no idea how the depth of this year compares to next year, but it seems these perceptions change quite a bit over the course of a year.  If next year is indeed less deep, that’s taken into consideration this year. I’m not saying it WILL happen, just that I’d be OK with it if it makes sense in the right deal. 

 

 

.

 

Edited February 15, 2019 by Augie

[BADOLBILZ]

5 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Good point, but unless we combine some picks to move around, 10 new draft pickups is a lot. I have no idea how the depth of this year compares to next year, but it seems these perceptions change quite a bit over the course of a year.  If next year is indeed less deep, that’s taken into consideration this year. I’m not saying it WILL happen, just that I’d be OK with it if it makes sense in the right deal. 

 

 

 

 

 

For some teams 10 draft picks would be a lot but the way this roster is structured they could easily find yobs on the 53 man for that many.

 

Wouldn't be surprised if a dozen rookies made the final 53  man roster next year..........going 0 for 8 in UFA last winter.......with only 1 guaranteed a roster spot......the virtually un-cuttable Star Lotulelei........ left a lot of opportunities.

 

 

 

 

[BuffaloFan68]

I see us taking the best OL available with our first pick & then I hope we trade back up into the first & grab a WR.

In my perfect world we would land Williams OL with our first pick & then trade up & grab WR Harry, Metcalf or Brown.  

Lets Go Buffalo!!!!!

[freddyjj]

20 hours ago, BuffaloFan68 said:

I see us taking the best OL available with our first pick & then I hope we trade back up into the first & grab a WR.

In my perfect world we would land Williams OL with our first pick & then trade up & grab WR Harry, Metcalf or Brown.  

Lets Go Buffalo!!!!!

If we trade back in Rd 1, secure an additional 2nd and then jump back into the 1st to target a player that makes sense as we get a 5th year option year on that player targeted via trade up.