BADOLBILZ Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 He was awful today. Worst player on the field. He's been poor most of the season and I think today was on par with or as bad as he's been all season. Critically poor instincts........big target who can't get off blocks.........not strong or physical enough.......poor leverage........doesn't move well thru traffic........doesn't make plays in a scheme where he should be making a ton of them. He's young........yeah........but this isn't the QB position.......good MLB's are almost without exception tremendous right out of the gate. Don't be surprised if he's at OLB next season folks. 9 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) Nah I can think of many WR's that are worse. He is the youngest to play the position. Edited December 23, 2018 by Boca BIlls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Was very unfortunate to see. Seems to be regressing a bit. They need him to be very good as he’s a very important player in this defence 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Thank you. Nothing against this kid but he’s not been out of position as much as he’s simply been blown off the ball. He’s simply not the right body type at this level of competition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said: He was awful today. Worst player on the field. He's been poor most of the season and I think today was on par with or as bad as he's been all season. Critically poor instincts........big target who can't get off blocks.........not strong or physical enough.......poor leverage........doesn't move well thru traffic........doesn't make plays in a scheme where he should be making a ton of them. He's young........yeah........but this isn't the QB position.......good MLB's are almost without exception tremendous right out of the gate. Don't be surprised if he's at OLB next season folks. Merry Christmas ? to you too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 I agree, it's time to be worried about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Just wait until he's 21! Thats when everything changes! You keep saying this, but come on man, even you have to admit that sometimes NFL players improve from one year to the next... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 He should play Wlb. He’s not physical enough or good enough against the run to play MLB. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 On the defensive side he was brutal and here is why - Consistently out of position - Over pursues - Plays too tall - Never lowers his shoulder pads - Weak tackler- everytimehe tackles the player goes forward a few more yards - Takes horrible angles- misses way to many tackles. this one is on the regime. 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: 100% agree. Problem is the dude is regressing. He's been making the SAME mistakes since week 1 and has only missed one game due to injury. Its a cause for concern right now and I don't think the Bills can risk going into a crucial 3rd season for this regime with him as their starting MLB. If he is they are going to have to have a very short leash. He should be playing OLB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Time to panic and fire everyone I guess 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: I agree, it's time to be worried about him. Yet another player they traded up for, had to have... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 He’s terrible. We need a new MLB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 His insincts are bad and hes really awful in play action. Tackling is soft. Runs sideline to sideline well, nearly picked brady off. Hes so young that yeah its worrisome but you def cant write him off. Today was pretty bad for the most part though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entropyrules Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 IMHO he was always going to be a boom or mediocre (not bust like Maybin) player ... 2019 will tell what the Bills have in him but right now it looks like passing on Vanderesch (sp) may have been a mistake not only for losing a better player but the extra draft choice to draft Edmunds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 probably a better fit at OLB Go sign another tackler to man the middle with Milano and move him over He is such a athlete/freak they will figure out how to get the most out of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: He's still got a good chance to succeed at WLB. But this would be another big miss in the draft for this regime. Zay and Edmunds. I never liked him being slotted at MLB- to me hes more suited for OLb/hybrid DE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Edmunds should be our SLB/situational pass rusher. Need a MLB. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Im not sure if any knew this, but today 49 was the Mike! How do I know? Brady kept yelling it every play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Darr was the worst. Allen was 2nd. Edmunds 3rd. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan_34 said: I never liked him being slotted at MLB - to me hes more suited for OLb/hybrid DE. Says the anonymous guy on the message board... ? 1 minute ago, leonbus23 said: Darr was the worst. Allen was 2nd. Edmunds 3rd. Wait, what - this is an interesting turn, Allen was the second worst player on the field today!? o_O 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Just wait until he's 21! Thats when everything changes! Next year, for SURE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 I agree with this, he was terrible today. I'm still high on him though, moving forward. I think he has the intangibles to work himself into being a star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Nope....there were other worse players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Just wait until he's 21! Thats when everything changes! He'd be a junior in college right now. That's young and against Belicheck who is known to go after rookies. Not surprised he had a bad day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 12 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Just wait until he's 21! Thats when everything changes! Flip the switch! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Heitz said: Says the anonymous guy on the message board... ? Wait, what - this is an interesting turn, Allen was the second worst player on the field today!? o_O He looked objectively terrible, as did the punter. Maybe a 3 way tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: He was awful today. Worst player on the field. He's been poor most of the season and I think today was on par with or as bad as he's been all season. Critically poor instincts........big target who can't get off blocks.........not strong or physical enough.......poor leverage........doesn't move well thru traffic........doesn't make plays in a scheme where he should be making a ton of them. He's young........yeah........but this isn't the QB position.......good MLB's are almost without exception tremendous right out of the gate. Don't be surprised if he's at OLB next season folks. Glad someone said it. Bad news when you draft a physical freak to play MLB and he can't outphysical, well, anyone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 I can think of a more important player who was worse, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: He should play Wlb. He’s not physical enough or good enough against the run to play MLB. When they drafted him I didn't believe the talk they were going to try to move him inside and figured they'd move him back in TC. His ceiling as an outside matchup piece was very high. I would never waste a first round pick on a MLB.............you don't need a great one and they are readily available elsewhere...........if that means I gotta' live without a Luke Kuechly on defense so be it. As Bandit mentioned in the gameday thread...........they'd be better off with Stanford in the middle right now and he's a journeyman special teamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyDavisEyes Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just now, ScottLaw said: He's been bad for most of the year. No progress since week 1. None of this is true 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNubbins Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 The hottest of takes. I'm guessing you only watched when we were on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: He should play Wlb. He’s not physical enough or good enough against the run to play MLB. Honestly this. He is very good in coverage, and playing sideline to sideline... but when it comes to running down hill and shedding blockers he is pretty poor... No I dont think 1 more year suddenly changes this. Its a fearless mindset IMO that you either have by nature or you dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 17 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: He was awful today. Worst player on the field. He's been poor most of the season and I think today was on par with or as bad as he's been all season. Critically poor instincts........big target who can't get off blocks.........not strong or physical enough.......poor leverage........doesn't move well thru traffic........doesn't make plays in a scheme where he should be making a ton of them. He's young........yeah........but this isn't the QB position.......good MLB's are almost without exception tremendous right out of the gate. Don't be surprised if he's at OLB next season folks. Makes the decision to let Preston Brown walk for peanuts all the more unusual. PB was not really all that good, but he had decent instincts and could command the defense. Edmunds has the range that McD likes, but all the athleticism in the world doesn't matter when you pick the wrong hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 He is a “watcher” - he sits back and watches the play develop in front of (and then behind) him. He’s almost always late to the action. And he has zero functional strength - the next drive-tackle he makes will be his first one. Wouldnt be shocked to see him moved to edge rusher - he can be like Chandler Jones, maybe. But he’s just not a MLB. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 We need to stop trading up. The only player you can justify that for so far is Allen just because he plays QB. Dawkins, Jones, and now Edmunds have not been worth the trade ups. Our best player was drafted in a trade down. I don't get the unearned confidence in the scouting. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, Heitz said: Says the anonymous guy on the message board... ? Wait, what - this is an interesting turn, Allen was the second worst player on the field today!? o_O Yep, here we go again with the Allen & Edmunds haters, it just doesn't stop. Get a grip people. For the record, Edmunds had a bad game, but there's no reason to give up on him. Also, enough with the wining about not taking Vander Esche. Sheesh! I guess the Bears blew it too, when they took Roquan Smith instead of Vander Esche. Right? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, PolishPrince said: Honestly this. He is very good in coverage, and playing sideline to sideline... but when it comes to running down hill and shedding blockers he is pretty poor... No I dont think 1 more year suddenly changes this. Its a fearless mindset IMO that you either have by nature or you dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just now, HappyDays said: We need to stop trading up. The only player you can justify that for so far is Allen just because he plays QB. Dawkins, Jones, and now Edmunds have not been worth the trade ups. Our best player was drafted in a trade down. I don't get the unearned confidence in the scouting. It’s not “unearned confidence” so much as zero accountability for making mistakes. These guys know they’re unfireable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybe Someday Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 He's young and I expect bad plays/games throughout the year but his lack of impact plays this season has me a little worried. He does have a ton of physical tools so hopefully he can mature both mentally and physically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Had the same weaknesses in college which I've brought up before and everyone got angry at me for. He was not drafted for his football ability, these guys love physical attributes for some reason: tall and fast is better than short and slow (their best LB Zo proves why that is wrong every single week). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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