Chiefs release Kareem Hunt after video from February incident surfaces

[Rico]

1 hour ago, WideRightRevenge said:

Couple of Thoughts ...

• Never Hit a Woman
• Don't lie to your employer or you deserve the consequences
• Nothing good happens at 3:45AM in the morning (time of incident)
• TMZ apparently has better investigators than the NFL
• Find it interesting that police did not file any charges who had all parties involved and copy of tape in hand
• Not sure if accurate, as was on the internet, but the woman (19 years old) supposedly was yelling outside the room in the hallway for over 30 minutes (now if accurate wondering why wasn't removed by hotel security prior to video incident) and yelling racially insensitive comments as they were obviously kicked out of the party in the room. 
• Joe Mixon video previously posted, Tyreke Hill incident, Ray Rice, Greg Hardy indictment ... SIGNIFICANTLY .. worse than this video
• Believe he will be back in the NFL .. question is which team.

Nice post.

 

Yes, TMZ does a great job. I hope they find the Tyreek Hill video soon. 

[Steptide]

1 hour ago, WideRightRevenge said:

Couple of Thoughts ...

• Never Hit a Woman
• Don't lie to your employer or you deserve the consequences
• Nothing good happens at 3:45AM in the morning (time of incident)
• TMZ apparently has better investigators than the NFL
• Find it interesting that police did not file any charges who had all parties involved and copy of tape in hand
• Not sure if accurate, as was on the internet, but the woman (19 years old) supposedly was yelling outside the room in the hallway for over 30 minutes (now if accurate wondering why wasn't removed by hotel security prior to video incident) and yelling racially insensitive comments as they were obviously kicked out of the party in the room. 
• Joe Mixon video previously posted, Tyreke Hill incident, Ray Rice, Greg Hardy indictment ... SIGNIFICANTLY .. worse than this video
• Believe he will be back in the NFL .. question is which team.

I don't want this to come across the wrong way. But it sounds like both people involved were at fault and hunt is taking the fall. Don't get me wrong, no man should ever assault a woman in any way, shape or form, and hunt should've called hotel security before trying to handle the situation himself. However i think with current society, men are always gonna be to blame in these situations. I think we will see more and more situations like this in the future. After all that shady drama happened over the summer, I had no doubt he was gone. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, WideRightRevenge said:

Couple of Thoughts ...

• Never Hit a Woman
• Don't lie to your employer or you deserve the consequences
• Nothing good happens at 3:45AM in the morning (time of incident)
• TMZ apparently has better investigators than the NFL
• Find it interesting that police did not file any charges who had all parties involved and copy of tape in hand
• Not sure if accurate, as was on the internet, but the woman (19 years old) supposedly was yelling outside the room in the hallway for over 30 minutes (now if accurate wondering why wasn't removed by hotel security prior to video incident) and yelling racially insensitive comments as they were obviously kicked out of the party in the room. 
• Joe Mixon video previously posted, Tyreke Hill incident, Ray Rice, Greg Hardy indictment ... SIGNIFICANTLY .. worse than this video
• Believe he will be back in the NFL .. question is which team.

 

Hunt is Cheap?

 

There was something somewhere about part of the argument being who would pay for the Uber to get the woman home.  Call her an Uber and tell her it's waiting for her, get downstairs and get it, way less costly than losing a game check or more.

 

Someone needs to teach these players about their new "natural resources", hotel security and throwing a few bucks at a situation to make it go away quietly.

 

I applaud the folks who think this is an assault case worthy of punishment, but I suspect the prosecutors decided the case was pretty much weak sauce.  When you got folks being shot and pistolwhipped all over your city and an underage woman who visibly appears impaired (drunk or drugged) on the video in an altercation with a star athlete, even though it's despicable behavior she's not a hugely credible witness and it appears relatively (relatively) minor.  Doesn't mean I condone it or think it's nothing - just I understand why the prosecutors didn't line up to sign up on this one.

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

If this was already posted in this thread, apologies.  This was an article in the Kansas City Star.
 

Chiefs’ Kareem Hunt is unemployed ... but not for his violence against a woman
 

One bit of logistics before we proceed. The Chiefs, according to a source, knew immediately upon seeing the video that Hunt would never play for them again. They waited until the NFL put him on the Commissioner Exempt List to ensure he wouldn’t play against them this season.

 

[YoloinOhio]

33 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Hunt is Cheap?

 

There was something somewhere about part of the argument being who would pay for the Uber to get the woman home.  Call her an Uber and tell her it's waiting for her, get downstairs and get it, way less costly than losing a game check or more.

 

Someone needs to teach these players about their new "natural resources", hotel security and throwing a few bucks at a situation to make it go away quietly.

 

I applaud the folks who think this is an assault case worthy of punishment, but I suspect the prosecutors decided the case was pretty much weak sauce.  When you got folks being shot and pistolwhipped all over your city and an underage woman who visibly appears impaired (drunk or drugged) on the video in an altercation with a star athlete, even though it's despicable behavior she's not a hugely credible witness and it appears relatively (relatively) minor.  Doesn't mean I condone it or think it's nothing - just I understand why the prosecutors didn't line up to sign up on this one.

 

In the video where she is talking to the police, she said Hunt took her phone so she couldn’t call anyone for a ride or Uber. She said she asked the front desk and wanted to call 911 and they wouldn’t help her. She said they did end up getting her phone back for her, post-assault. 

[boyst]

4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

In the video where she is talking to the police, she said Hunt took her phone so she couldn’t call anyone for a ride or Uber. She said she asked the front desk and wanted to call 911 and they wouldn’t help her. She said they did end up getting her phone back for her, post-assault. 

From knowledge of my girlfriend, though late to the conversation, the teams and players have handlers/coaches that make the women sign waivers and turn over their phones to them. Someone of Hunt's level would likely have a full time handler who has the women sign waivers to go to the hotel that are commonly called "rapey waivers" and also submit their phones for inspection if not completely turn them over.

 

One of the biggest she had to deal with was the ***** with Kobe Bryant and waivers to just be around him. She wasn't allowed to have her phone when near him at certain events. Some times these were 2 or 3 am with games the next afternoon and out until 7 or 8 am. She dated a Laker for quite a while until she realized he was engaged; sucked because she met the man's family and spent the holidays with them and no one told her.

[BuffaloRebound]

Hunt is a 3rd round pick still on his rookie deal.  Highly doubt he has a paid handler.  Including endorsements, Kobe was probably making 100 times what Hunt pulled in this year.  

[Not at the table Karlos]

3 hours ago, Teddy KGB said:

What do we do with all the posters who have drooled all over the great Tyreek Hill all year long but have a problem with this for some reason ? 

 

Hmmmmm 

What about all the people that love and worship Jim Kelly? He beat the crap out of his wife regularly back in the day. 

[dollars 2 donuts]

19 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

  It was going to be such a nice Super Bowl...KC and the Rams/Saints.

 

Oh well.  Without reading the article this obviously took place at around 11 am, or 1 pm at the latest, right?

 

 

As I said.

[IDBillzFan]

13 hours ago, KD in CA said:

Smart of the Chiefs to get out in front and release him before the first news cycle.

 

Kareem forgot the golden rule:  “don’t get caught on video”

 

Yep. Outstanding decision by KC.

 

Kareem will, undoubtedly, be playing for another team next year, but there was no other right choice: treat a woman like that, get sh!tcanned.

[MakeBuffaloGreatAgain]

Pick up Hunt and trade Shady to the Chiefs. 

[IDBillzFan]

6 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

What about all the people that love and worship Jim Kelly? He beat the crap out of his wife regularly back in the day. 

 

Whataboutisms here!! Get'cher white hot whataboutisms here!!

[Pete]

rookie contract- Hunt really ***** up.  He never got paid.  He will be back in time.  Bargain bin initial contract.  Joe Mixon is a big part of Cincy's offense.  If he can make it back, so can Hunt.  And it's hard to feel sorry for Ray Rice.   But his name has become synonymous with any repugnant behavior, and his is a pariah.  At some point people need to learn to forgive

[Not at the table Karlos]

15 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

Whataboutisms here!! Get'cher white hot whataboutisms here!!

Surprised you're not here saying that hunt stabbed the girl 6 times then hit her with a club while dragging her by the hair out of the hotel.  Wheres @TheTruthHurts he can add the part where he saw hunt fly his helicopter down the hallway and hit her with the blades and she lost her leg but they reattached it and she's better now

Edited December 1, 2018 by Not at the table Karlos

[YoloinOhio]

11 minutes ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said:

Pick up Hunt and trade Shady to the Chiefs. 

Can’t trade until offseason and Hunt can’t even play right now 

[MakeBuffaloGreatAgain]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

Can’t trade until offseason and Hunt can’t even play right now 

Then pick up Hunt and run a 2 back set... when he can play

Edited December 1, 2018 by MakeBuffaloGreatAgain

[Not at the table Karlos]

5 minutes ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said:

Then pick up Hunt and run a 2 back set... when he can play

Next year at earliest. 

[YoloinOhio]

6 minutes ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said:

Then pick up Hunt and run a 2 back set... when he can play

I don’t think he’s back this year. Only a month to go,  roger will keep him on the list. 

[Doc]

Finally saw the video and showed it to my wife.  We both agree that while it's not a good look for Hunt, it's not even close to the violent attack being portrayed.  It's no surprise the cops did nothing and that she didn't even think enough of it file a complaint.

[Not at the table Karlos]

4 minutes ago, Doc said:

Finally saw the video and showed it to my wife.  We both agree that while it's not a good look for Hunt, it's not even close to the violent attack being portrayed.  It's no surprise the cops did nothing and that she didn't even think enough of it file a complaint.

Pretty much the response from every level headed person. 

[YoloinOhio]

6 minutes ago, Doc said:

Finally saw the video and showed it to my wife.  We both agree that while it's not a good look for Hunt, it's not even close to the violent attack being portrayed.  It's no surprise the cops did nothing and that she didn't even think enough of it file a complaint.

Actually she did tell the police she wanted to press charges 

 

Video obtained by TMZ shows the woman, crying after the attack, telling three Cleveland police officers that she wants to press charges. TMZ also reports that the hotel where the incident took place provided the video to investigators, yet prosecutors declined to charge Hunt.

Edited December 1, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[IDBillzFan]

27 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Surprised you're not here saying that hunt stabbed the girl 6 times then hit her with a club while dragging her by the hair out of the hotel.  Wheres @TheTruthHurts he can add the part where he saw hunt fly his helicopter down the hallway and hit her with the blades and she lost her leg but they reattached it and she's better now

 

You're a little unhinged by all of this.  Fantasy team take a hit? 

[Not at the table Karlos]

5 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

You're a little unhinged by all of this.  Fantasy team take a hit? 

Are you and truth hurts the same person? You both make up stuff and ask the same dumb questions.   And no I have ware on my bench like I told your other account yesterday. Guy I'm playing this week has Hunt. 

 

Your obsession with me is a little weird. You aren't my crazy ex are you? 

Edited December 1, 2018 by Not at the table Karlos

[Gugny]

17 minutes ago, Doc said:

Finally saw the video and showed it to my wife.  We both agree that while it's not a good look for Hunt, it's not even close to the violent attack being portrayed.  It's no surprise the cops did nothing and that she didn't even think enough of it file a complaint.

 

He hit a woman.

He pushed the same woman to the ground.

Whilst being restrained, he pulled away to then kick the same woman while she was still on the ground.

 

That's more than, "not a good look."  It's assault by a very large man with his victim being a ***** woman.  

[jrober38]

25 minutes ago, Doc said:

Finally saw the video and showed it to my wife.  We both agree that while it's not a good look for Hunt, it's not even close to the violent attack being portrayed.  It's no surprise the cops did nothing and that she didn't even think enough of it file a complaint.

 

What would have happened if there weren't two guys holding him back?

[Mark Vader]

16 hours ago, The Senator said:

 

?

 

Bill has cameras everywhere!

.

 

***** him and his orange juice!

[whatdrought]

19 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

He hit a woman.

He pushed the same woman to the ground.

Whilst being restrained, he pulled away to then kick the same woman while she was still on the ground.

 

That's more than, "not a good look."  It's assault by a very large man with his victim being a ***** woman.  

 

He shoved a woman. 

 

He pushed a man (a man who was just shoved violently by said woman) that then crashed into a woman knocking her to the ground.

 

He then kicked a woman at maybe half power.

 

its all very despicable, and he should have never left the room. But you can’t say that a 240 pound man that regularly runs over 300 pound dudes couldn’t have done worse if he truly wanted to. 

 

His behavior is wrong and inexcusable, but it’s possibke to hold that truth while also saying that the whole thing has been overstated by the media.

[fansince88]

Just watched the video....they all look like trash. No excuse but not knowing what it was all about what can you do about this legally.  The women may or may not have been instigators of the whole situation.  No clue who any of them are or what the mayhem was all about.

[Cheektowaga Chad]

Whoever the guys restraining hunt in the video are, I hope hunt takes care of them because they probably saved his career

 

I don't want to think what this video would have looked like without people trying to restrain him

 

[Gugny]

7 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

He shoved a woman. 

 

He pushed a man (a man who was just shoved violently by said woman) that then crashed into a woman knocking her to the ground.

 

He then kicked a woman at maybe half power.

 

its all very despicable, and he should have never left the room. But you can’t say that a 240 pound man that regularly runs over 300 pound dudes couldn’t have done worse if he truly wanted to. 

 

His behavior is wrong and inexcusable, but it’s possibke to hold that truth while also saying that the whole thing has been overstated by the media.

 

3 minutes ago, fansince88 said:

Just watched the video....they all look like trash. No excuse but not knowing what it was all about what can you do about this legally.  The women may or may not have been instigators of the whole situation.  No clue who any of them are or what the mayhem was all about.

 

Oh....... it was just a half-power kick.  By all means, half kick away!!

 

And yes .... drunk woman instigated it and got what she had coming!!!!

 

Jesus ... what is this, 1950?  Common man.

[T master]

The dude is done in the NFL this will take the same route as Ray Rice he will never get another team to look at him unless it's a couple years down the road & by then it will be to late !! 

 

Good luck Kareem with the Hunt for new employment !! 

[Gugny]

I just had my 15-year-old son watch.  I didn't say a word while he watched.  When it was over, I asked him to tell me what he took away from it:

 

1.  They were both in the wrong.

2.  A man should never put his hands on a woman.

3.  No one (man or woman) should go after someone else and think that nothing is going to happen in return.

4.  The kick was the worst part because she was already on the ground.

5.  He (Hunt) did not react like a man should.

 

I think he nailed it pretty well.

[CuddyDark]

Damn. Same people who stood up for...

[IDBillzFan]

55 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

You aren't my crazy ex are you? 

 

Given the way you keep defending Kareem, I'm pretty sure no one here is surprised to find you think you EX was the crazy one. 

 

8 minutes ago, Gugny said:

I just had my 15-year-old son watch.  I didn't say a word while he watched.  When it was over, I asked him to tell me what he took away from it:

 

1.  They were both in the wrong.

2.  A man should never put his hands on a woman.

3.  No one (man or woman) should go after someone else and think that nothing is going to happen in return.

4.  The kick was the worst part because she was already on the ground.

5.  He (Hunt) did not react like a man should.

 

I think he nailed it pretty well.

 

Even a 15 year old gets it.

[kota]

I feel bad for the wives and daughters of anyone in this thread who is giving this guy any kind of pass.

[whatdrought]

23 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

 

Oh....... it was just a half-power kick.  By all means, half kick away!!

 

And yes .... drunk woman instigated it and got what she had coming!!!!

 

Jesus ... what is this, 1950?  Common man.

 

If the 1950’s emphasized truth over sensationalism, then yes.

 

but by all means, allow your emotions to ignore what I actually said.

[/dev/null]

With only 5 games left this season, I'm not sure anyone will pick him up with the spectre of a multi game suspension on the horizon

[YoloinOhio]

3 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

With only 5 games left this season, I'm not sure anyone will pick him up with the spectre of a multi game suspension on the horizon

Roger will try to save face by parking him on the list until the end of the season. Has to at least show he’s doing something. I think the suspension will be handed down in the offseason and it will be 6 games. And that he will be signed by another team in the offseason. 

Edited December 1, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[FLFan]

12 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

If the 1950’s emphasized truth over sensationalism, then yes.

 

but by all means, allow your emotions to ignore what I actually said.

The truth you say?  By all means enlighten us on the truth.  Here is some truth for you:  Men who hit women are despicable, gutless, and less than real men.  There is no middle ground here.  This has always been true, and will always be true, and the fact that there was once a time when it was acceptable behavior in this society and perpetrators could more easily hide behind some of the lame excuses people are offering up here is not cause for nostalgia about the past.  

Edited December 1, 2018 by FLFan

[buffaloboyinATL]

19 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Roger will try to save face by parking him on the list until the end of the season. Has to at least show he’s doing something. I think the suspension will be handed down in the offseason and it will be 6 games. And that he will be signed by another team in the offseason. 

That sounds about right.