Why did Rex only get 2 years?

[LABILLBACKER]

Rex took a top 4 defense by Schwartz and in all his pompous glory destroyed it. His offense was never good. I'll give McB that 3rd extra year to start building this embarrassing offense. 

[Green Lightning]

On 11/5/2018 at 1:48 AM, OJ Tom said:

Cuz he sucked. 

 

Don't waste our time with Wrex Wyan nonsense.

 

 

 

 Thanks, you saved me the time and effort.

[billsfan89]

Rex's teams had much much bigger expectations. The 2015 team was thought to be a playoff contender that could make some noise if they got decent QB play. Rex in 2015 inherited one of the best defenses in the league and although the offense was ass in 2014 they brought in a lot of help on offense. Adding InCog and drafting Miller along an O-line that had pieces in Wood and Glenn. They added Shady and Clay to a skill position core that had Sammy, Woods, Goodwin, and Hogan. They even got decent QB play with Tyrod but Rex ***** up a great defense that had added a good player in Darby. 

 

In 2016 he was given a draft to add some pieces to the defense to better run his scheme and the team still had mediocre results. The difference between McBeane and Rex was expectations. Rex took over a 9-7 team that added a lot of talent, McBeane took over a 7-9 team that was not in a good position cap wise and had aging talent. Rex had a pair of rosters on paper that should have produced double digit wins and the reason for failure in both years was a subpar defense which was supposed to be Rex's specialty. 

[Peter]

2 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

Rex's teams had much much bigger expectations. The 2015 team was thought to be a playoff contender that could make some noise if they got decent QB play. Rex in 2015 inherited one of the best defenses in the league and although the offense was ass in 2014 they brought in a lot of help on offense. Adding InCog and drafting Miller along an O-line that had pieces in Wood and Glenn. They added Shady and Clay to a skill position core that had Sammy, Woods, Goodwin, and Hogan. They even got decent QB play with Tyrod but Rex ***** up a great defense that had added a good player in Darby. 

 

In 2016 he was given a draft to add some pieces to the defense to better run his scheme and the team still had mediocre results. The difference between McBeane and Rex was expectations. Rex took over a 9-7 team that added a lot of talent, McBeane took over a 7-9 team that was not in a good position cap wise and had aging talent. Rex had a pair of rosters on paper that should have produced double digit wins and the reason for failure in both years was a subpar defense which was supposed to be Rex's specialty. 

 

Playoff expectations?  Whaley may have been pushing that narrative with the Pegulas, but the "money" did not foresee playoffs for the Bills:

 

2015 Over and Under Wins 8.5 (hardly playoff expectations)

 

2016 Over and Under Wins 8 (hardly playoff expectations)

 

"In 2016 [Rex] was given a draft to add some pieces to the defense and the team still had mediocre results."

 

Hmmm. Top two Bills draft choices were hurt.  One was out for the year, and the other was out for a good portion of the year and probably was not fully recovered when he returned.

 

 

2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Rex took a top 4 defense by Schwartz and in all his pompous glory destroyed it. His offense was never good. I'll give McB that 3rd extra year to start building this embarrassing offense. 

 

Destroyed???  That seems to be the narrative that the Rex haters love to push.

 

As I mentioned before in an earlier post, let's put things in perspective:

 

2013 Points Against        24.3 (20th in NFL)

2013 Point Differential   -49 (22nd in NFL)

 

2014 Points Against        18.1 (4th in NFL)

2014 Point Differential  +54    (12th in NFL)

 

2015 Points Against         22.4 (only 4.3 points per game more than 2014 & 1.9 point per game less than 2013) (15th in NFL)

2015 Point Differential   +20 (13th in NFL - only one back from 2014)

 

2016 Points Against         23.6 (only 5.5 points per game more than 2014 and .7 points per game less than 2013) (16th in NFL)

2016 Point Differential   +21  (14th in NFL - two back from 2014)

 

2017 Points Against         22.4 (same as 2015) (18th in NFL)

2017 Point Differential    -57   (21st in NFL)

 

2018 Points Against        26.8 (more than both 2013, 2015, and 2016) (26th in NFL)

2018 Point Differential  -145 (Dead last in NFL through 9 games)

 

Rex did this and was the most successful Buffalo Bills head coach since Wade (and still is) even though Mario went on strike, Gilmore did not think tackling was part of his job, and with one of the most injured teams in the NFL with among the most games lost due to injury:

 

2015 Adusted Games Lost Due to Injury

 

2016 Adusted Games Lost Due to Injury

 

•  

Edited November 8, 2018 by Peter

[BuffaloHokie13]

11 hours ago, Peter said:

Destroyed???  That seems to be the narrative that the Rex haters love to push.

 

As I mentioned before in an earlier post, let's put things in perspective:

 

2013 Points Against        24.3 (20th in NFL)

2013 Point Differential   -49 (22nd in NFL)

 

2014 Points Against        18.1 (4th in NFL)

2014 Point Differential  +54    (12th in NFL)

 

2015 Points Against         22.4 (only 4.3 points per game more than 2014 & 1.9 point per game less than 2013) (15th in NFL)

2015 Point Differential   +20 (13th in NFL - only one back from 2014)

 

2016 Points Against         23.6 (only 5.5 points per game more than 2014 and .7 points per game less than 2013) (16th in NFL)

2016 Point Differential   +21  (14th in NFL - two back from 2014)

 

2017 Points Against         22.4 (same as 2015) (18th in NFL)

2017 Point Differential    -57   (21st in NFL)

 

2018 Points Against        26.8 (more than both 2013, 2015, and 2016) (26th in NFL)

2018 Point Differential  -145 (Dead last in NFL through 9 games)

And yet there's a pretty good metric out there called DVOA. And the ranks were as follows:

 

2013: O=25th, D=4th

2014: O=26th, D=2nd

2015: O=9th, D=24th

2016: O=10th, D=27th

2017: O=26th, D=15th

2018: O=32nd, D=2nd

 

You don't think going from 2nd to 24th is destroying the Defense? It's the same kind of drop off as going from 10th to 32nd on Offense.

[CuddyDark]

I think most of Rex's firing had to do with behind the scenes stuff. He was a poor leader. He let his players walk all over him. They didn't have direction or leadership as men from Rex's style. I don't think Rex understood or taught accountability.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000483912/article/jace-amaro-jets-had-tardiness-issue-under-rex-ryan

[uticaclub]

Remember when that top defense he inherited, folded like a cheap table against the 3-13 Raiders?

 

That D wasn't perfect and Marios rapid decline I think had alot to do with it.

 

If that ***** PI isn't called against Jax in London, we make the playoffs in 2015

Edited November 8, 2018 by uticaclub

[BillsFan1988]

On 11/5/2018 at 1:23 PM, Sweats said:

Rex got 2 years cause he was a buffoon........end of story 

If Rex was a buffoon i wonder what we should call Mcd? McDonut? Lol

[NoHuddleKelly12]

On 11/5/2018 at 2:00 AM, Peter said:

 

The following is not a popular opinion on this board:

 

As much as I love the Pegulas, it was a huge mistake firing Rex.  There is no way a coach should be fired in less than two years --- especially a coach who had been the most successful coach for the Buffalo Bills for the past nearly two decades and who was being undermined behind the scenes with leaks etc.  Rex should have been allowed to at least continue for the term of his contract.

 

To put things in perspective, the point differential was much worse last year than the year before and the relative offensive and defensive rankings were worse last year than the year before.  

 

As much as Rex got grief for having 11 men on the field (when, as it turns out, a DB got hurt and a defensive back coach presumably did not send a replacement in the game), Rex never had 15 freaking guys on the field as McCoach did last year against the Pats.  I do not think that I ever have seen any other team or coach have 15 guys on the field at the same time.  

 

Rex also had personality whereas the current guy is McMilktoast and cannot help repeating his stolen mantra the "process."  McCoach is Dick Jauron without the charisma.*  Between  his personality and what he has done with the team, he has sucked the life out of the team (and my view of the team under him).

 

I would take Rex over the current guy and thought it was unfair to undermine and then fire Rex in less than two years. As I state above, Rex should have been allowed to at least coach the team through the term of his contract.

 

As much as I am not particularly impressed with McCoach, I also think that it would be unfair to fire him in less than two years.

 

* For the younger readers, Dick Jauron did not have any charisma . . . and neither does McCoach.  This was a joke.

I feel like McD at least publicly, presents more in a manner the Pegulas prefer, and he has definitely not promised the moon before promising to simply change the culture for the better around OBD. Not saying he will pan out, just offer this as a means of explanation for the thread question. Rex promised way too much on the front end coming in--remember that 1st intro presser? Gonna build a bully, take down the Patriots, win championships sooner than later, get me a house with most annual snow fall, blah blah blah. Terry I think got tired of the blustery sideshow, Rex constantly over-promising and never being able to deliver. "Personality" will only get you so far. Don't forget too, Rex promising a significant D change for the better after year 1, when he brought in his brother in the ultimate nepotism move, really started his clock running, IMO.

 

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/rex-ryan-hires-brother-rob-bills-defense-coaching-staff/13zja0p1spxds19jsku38qd8os    

[Mr. WEO]

He should have gotten 15-20 for all of that money he stole from the Pegulas...

[That_Guy]

it was 2 years too many

[billsfan89]

19 hours ago, Peter said:

 

Playoff expectations?  Whaley may have been pushing that narrative with the Pegulas, but the "money" did not foresee playoffs for the Bills:

 

2015 Over and Under Wins 8.5 (hardly playoff expectations)

 

2016 Over and Under Wins 8 (hardly playoff expectations)

 

"In 2016 [Rex] was given a draft to add some pieces to the defense and the team still had mediocre results."

 

Hmmm. Top two Bills draft choices were hurt.  One was out for the year, and the other was out for a good portion of the year and probably was not fully recovered when he returned.

 

 

 

Destroyed???  That seems to be the narrative that the Rex haters love to push.

 

As I mentioned before in an earlier post, let's put things in perspective:

 

2013 Points Against        24.3 (20th in NFL)

2013 Point Differential   -49 (22nd in NFL)

 

2014 Points Against        18.1 (4th in NFL)

2014 Point Differential  +54    (12th in NFL)

 

2015 Points Against         22.4 (only 4.3 points per game more than 2014 & 1.9 point per game less than 2013) (15th in NFL)

2015 Point Differential   +20 (13th in NFL - only one back from 2014)

 

2016 Points Against         23.6 (only 5.5 points per game more than 2014 and .7 points per game less than 2013) (16th in NFL)

2016 Point Differential   +21  (14th in NFL - two back from 2014)

 

2017 Points Against         22.4 (same as 2015) (18th in NFL)

2017 Point Differential    -57   (21st in NFL)

 

2018 Points Against        26.8 (more than both 2013, 2015, and 2016) (26th in NFL)

2018 Point Differential  -145 (Dead last in NFL through 9 games)

 

Rex did this and was the most successful Buffalo Bills head coach since Wade (and still is) even though Mario went on strike, Gilmore did not think tackling was part of his job, and with one of the most injured teams in the NFL with among the most games lost due to injury:

 

2015 Adusted Games Lost Due to Injury

 

2016 Adusted Games Lost Due to Injury

 

•  

 

Rex inherited the best or second best defense in the league and in two seasons had defenses ranked 24 and 27. The reason the over under's set by Vegas were so low was because in 2015 there was questions about the QB play. Everyone thought the team had a stacked defense and a stacked offense outside of the QB position. The biggest weakness actually turned out to not be that big of a liability since Tyrod was a decent QB. But Rex's specialty defense was what let the team down. Ironically Rex and Whaley made so many good moves on the offensive side of the ball, they had two good coordinators on offense. bringing in InCog and drafting Miller fixed up the O-line (even finding Mills was a plus to the run game,) trading for Shady was a brilliant move, Tyrod stabilized the QB play, and even though Clay was massively overpaid he still was a productive player. 

 

But switching the scheme defensively was jamming a round peg in a square hole. If they had that 2014 defense with the 2015 offense I  have no doubt they win 11 games. Hell they won 8 with the 24th ranked defense, I think with a top 5 defense they at least pull out 3 more wins. Even in 2016 everyone still thought that the team suddenly had a more than competent offense and with the additions on defense and everyone "having another year in the scheme" thought the defense under someone who is supposed to be a defensive guru would help turn around the defense. But the defense regressed even further. 

 

If Rex had fielded even competent defenses he would have at least gotten another year or two but he ***** a great defense up and couldn't take advantage of a big spending spree. 

[row_33]

Rex's personality wasn't a good fit with the situation

 

 

[H2o]

On 11/5/2018 at 1:46 AM, RosenNOTchosen1 said:

If my memory serves me correct this season is much worse than a couple years ago under Rex. Under Rex the team was very competitive and was almost in every single game that is played. Why did Ryan only get 2 years but with McDermott it's an automatic that he's coming back?

 

?

 

 

Did you watch a single game during the Rex Ryan era? Did you not see him take a top 5 defense and turn it into a bottom feeder version, even with him supposedly being a great defensive minded coach? Yeah, we were closer to Ringling Bros. than an NFL team when he was here. 

[ngbills]

So funny the Tyrod was a decent QB. If we only had a decent Def we are in he playoffs. Rex destroyed this.

 

Is QB not the most important position? Do we suck now? Who got rid of Tyrod? 

 

Yeah, lets blame Rex some more. 

[Mat68]

Expectations.  Rex came in with the mindset I'm making the difference.  The defense was top 10, he was making it the best.  McDermott saw what was broken.  He wanted to do a total rebuild, but trying not to sacrifice too much in the short term.  Imo after making the playoffs they got the clout and the ability to full fledge rebuild. The defense is close and the offense is a mess.  Looking at salaries and resources it is not a surprise. Pegula is not caught off guard by anything this year except for his infatuation with Peterman.  

Edited November 9, 2018 by Mat68

[billsfan89]

24 minutes ago, ngbills said:

So funny the Tyrod was a decent QB. If we only had a decent Def we are in he playoffs. Rex destroyed this.

 

Is QB not the most important position? Do we suck now? Who got rid of Tyrod? 

 

Yeah, lets blame Rex some more. 

 

I was in the camp that wanted to keep Tyrod for one more year because he was on a great one year deal and could have kept Allen from starting for at least a year. But that being said the offense with a run first and don't turn the ball over mentality ranked 9th in 2015 and 10th in 2016. IF the Bills had a top 5 defense like they had in 2014 those years the team would have had a top 5 defense to go along with a top 10 offense. A top 5 defensive unit and a capable top 10 offense is a recipe for a 10+ win team, Rex's poor execution of the defense cost the team a chance at 2 playoff appearances. 

[Matt_In_NH]

On 11/5/2018 at 1:46 AM, RosenNOTchosen1 said:

If my memory serves me correct this season is much worse than a couple years ago under Rex. Under Rex the team was very competitive and was almost in every single game that is played. Why did Ryan only get 2 years but with McDermott it's an automatic that he's coming back?

 

?

 

 

Because he came in to a fourth ranked defense and ruined it.   Because he came in got a blank check and got all the talent he wanted in year one.  Incognito clay harvin McCoy etc and the team was no better with. Lot more spending.  The team had zero discipline.  

[Peter]

12 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

And yet there's a pretty good metric out there called DVOA. And the ranks were as follows:

 

2013: O=25th, D=4th

2014: O=26th, D=2nd

2015: O=9th, D=24th

2016: O=10th, D=27th

2017: O=26th, D=15th

2018: O=32nd, D=2nd

 

You don't think going from 2nd to 24th is destroying the Defense? It's the same kind of drop off as going from 10th to 32nd on Offense.

 

Please let me know when the NFL stops choosing who wins games by point differential.

 

I also found it interesting that you left this bit out when you quoted me:

 

 

Quote

 

Rex did this and was the most successful Buffalo Bills head coach since Wade (and still is) even though Mario went on strike, Gilmore did not think tackling was part of his job, and with one of the most injured teams in the NFL with among the most games lost due to injury:

 

2015 Adjusted Games Lost Due to Injury

 

2016 Adjusted Games Lost Due to Injury

 

 

 

In citing to Football Outsiders, you also did not consider that, according to your own authority, our defenses while Rex was the coach were especially hard hit by injury each year.

 

Interestingly, our adjusted games lost rankings due to injury for defense by year were:

 

11th in 2014

 

28th in 2015

 

28th in 2016

 

8th in 2017

 

Notice the correlation . . . hmmmm.

 

Of course, the Rex haters will not not acknowledge how hard hit our defense was by injury in 2015 and 2016 - even according to their own authority.  

 

Oh well.

 

 

Edited November 9, 2018 by Peter

[Iron Maiden]

Rex was running a clown show .....he was big on talk and promises..., not big on results....

 

https://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2015/11/rex_ryan_explains_bad_challenges_mistake_cost_buffalo_bills_loss_kansas_city_chi.html

[Peter]

9 minutes ago, Iron Maiden said:

Rex was running a clown show .....he was big on talk and promises..., not big on results....

 

https://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2015/11/rex_ryan_explains_bad_challenges_mistake_cost_buffalo_bills_loss_kansas_city_chi.html

 

Or that time that the Bills had 15 men on the field against the Patriots.  What a clown show.  Big talk and promises. Has it ever happened before that a team got caught with 15 freaking men on the field?!?

 

Bills Had 15 Men on Field Against Patriots

 

Oh, wait, that was when McOrganization was the coach.  

Edited November 9, 2018 by Peter

[Iron Maiden]

 

The list of headlines which he loved so much like  "I'm not going to let our fans down. I am not going to do that. I know it's been 15 years since the Bills made the playoffs. Well, get ready, man, we're going. We are going."...are too many to list here....

 

Bringing his loser brother didn't help either....for a guy who had not won really anything even as a DC, he sure liked to act like he was all that..........his 2 decent years with the Jets, he was benefiting from the roster Mangini had built....it went downhill quickly after that.....he was an average HC at best....

 

I love how when he 1st got to Buffalo, he was basically saying that our 4th ranked defense was not good enough.......and he then proceeded to make it worse....much much worse...sending Mario in coverage was as stupid as stupid gets....

 

 

 

Edited November 9, 2018 by Iron Maiden

[Bing Bong]

Probably because he didn't and never would sell himself as a long term investment. At least we knew he sucked and could fire him rather than Whaley and him blowing up the roster to have us holding our breaths we get the 2000 Ravens in 5 years. 

 

Guarantee Rex would be the coach if he tanked and basically made it a guessing game as to if him and his rookie QB he drafts (like Mariota or something?) were gonna be a dynasty (they wouldn't have been). 

 

But I liked the transparency knowing he sucked. I honestly have no idea with these guys since they made it so bad on purpose their competence can't be judged

Edited November 9, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks

[Iron Maiden]

12 hours ago, CuddyDark said:

I think most of Rex's firing had to do with behind the scenes stuff. He was a poor leader. He let his players walk all over him. They didn't have direction or leadership as men from Rex's style. I don't think Rex understood or taught accountability.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000483912/article/jace-amaro-jets-had-tardiness-issue-under-rex-ryan

Also....This...100 X this....

[Bing Bong]

The way I see it.. Marrone really ****ed us over

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

Rex stayed everyone got tired his act for many things. When players become lazy or sleeping during meeting and stuff you gotta make a change

[Iron Maiden]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

Rex stayed everyone got tired his act for many things. When players become lazy or sleeping during meeting and stuff you gotta make a change

Yep...Rex is like one of those door to door salesman.....The Bills bought the 5 Million dollars vacuum...and our rugs got even dirtier....

[GunnerBill]

On ‎11‎/‎8‎/‎2018 at 1:54 AM, Peter said:

 

Playoff expectations?  Whaley may have been pushing that narrative with the Pegulas, but the "money" did not foresee playoffs for the Bills:

 

2015 Over and Under Wins 8.5 (hardly playoff expectations)

 

2016 Over and Under Wins 8 (hardly playoff expectations)

 

"In 2016 [Rex] was given a draft to add some pieces to the defense and the team still had mediocre results."

 

Hmmm. Top two Bills draft choices were hurt.  One was out for the year, and the other was out for a good portion of the year and probably was not fully recovered when he returned.

 

 

 

Destroyed???  That seems to be the narrative that the Rex haters love to push.

 

As I mentioned before in an earlier post, let's put things in perspective:

 

2013 Points Against        24.3 (20th in NFL)

2013 Point Differential   -49 (22nd in NFL)

 

2014 Points Against        18.1 (4th in NFL)

2014 Point Differential  +54    (12th in NFL)

 

2015 Points Against         22.4 (only 4.3 points per game more than 2014 & 1.9 point per game less than 2013) (15th in NFL)

2015 Point Differential   +20 (13th in NFL - only one back from 2014)

 

2016 Points Against         23.6 (only 5.5 points per game more than 2014 and .7 points per game less than 2013) (16th in NFL)

2016 Point Differential   +21  (14th in NFL - two back from 2014)

 

2017 Points Against         22.4 (same as 2015) (18th in NFL)

2017 Point Differential    -57   (21st in NFL)

 

2018 Points Against        26.8 (more than both 2013, 2015, and 2016) (26th in NFL)

2018 Point Differential  -145 (Dead last in NFL through 9 games)

 

Rex did this and was the most successful Buffalo Bills head coach since Wade (and still is) even though Mario went on strike, Gilmore did not think tackling was part of his job, and with one of the most injured teams in the NFL with among the most games lost due to injury:

 

2015 Adusted Games Lost Due to Injury

 

2016 Adusted Games Lost Due to Injury

 

•  

 

 

4.3 and 5.5 points in the NFL are HUGE differences.

[BuffaloHokie13]

10 hours ago, Peter said:

Please let me know when the NFL stops choosing who wins games by point differential.

If you win 5 games by 3 and then get blown out in your only loss by 30 points your point differential is negative, but your record is 5-1. Using season long point differential is rather meaningless.

 

As for the injuries, I left them out because every team deals with injuries, and not all losses are the same. Can you tell me who exactly we lost to injury on Defense? I have no idea how they weighted who, when, or why.

The only 2 that come to mind for me are Aaron Williams who had his neck issues, and Kyle Williams in 2015, though he did play for ~1/3 of the season.

 

10 hours ago, Peter said:

In citing to Football Outsiders, you also did not consider that, according to your own authority, our defenses while Rex was the coach were especially hard hit by injury each year.

No, because I don't consider Football Outsiders an authority over all stats. Their DVOA metric for offense and defense are very good. DVOA for quarterbacks is pretty bad. Adjusted Games Lost is something I've never given any credence to whatsoever.

[zow2]

I knew at  the time when we had the #1 rushing attack that we would really miss it someday.  Like now.  I was Lukewarm about Rex but it was mainly the D that disappointed.  They scored plenty and controlled the ball.  He had Anthony Lynn on staff, and some solid coaches. 

[row_33]

3 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

If you win 5 games by 3 and then get blown out in your only loss by 30 points your point differential is negative, but your record is 5-1. Using season long point differential is rather meaningless.

 

 

 

the more variables you put into an analysis the stronger it is

 

cherry picking point differential is an admission one knows 100% their argument sucks in the first place

 

 

[Billsfan1972]

Take out those majical 50 minutes (second half vs. LAC & first 20 minutes vs. Minny) where the bills scored 41 points and were +38 point differential it would really be scary.......

[BringBackOrton]

Rex got 2 years because he was a loudmouth buffoon hired to be a shot in the arm, winning team from the jump, and he failed miserably.  Rather than instill the motivated and aggressive mindset that he was known for, he decided to hire 1 million coaches and rest on his laurels. He failed to get the team to buy in, a team that had spent the last two years crushing Rex teams. 

 

He was a failure in every way. The Pegs HC decisions have blown up in their faces.

[ngbills]

2 hours ago, row_33 said:

 

the more variables you put into an analysis the stronger it is

 

cherry picking point differential is an admission one knows 100% their argument sucks in the first place

 

 

 

The Bills have lost 5 games by 20+ points this year. Last years 0-16 Browns lost only 1 by more than 20. This team is obviously not even competitive. Does anyone really think the Rex teams were worse? This could go down as one of the worst teams ever in the NFL. They have 8 TD's scored vs 27 given up. They have only scored a TD in 5 of 9 games. The Defense looks better than it is because teams take the foot of the gas when they are up big. 

[tcampbell104]

he lost the team

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

The best thing Rex ever did for the Bills was coach the jets. He destroyed that franchise. 

 

His life accomplishments amount to (1) having a daddy that was considered to be a good football coach (2) riding Marvin Lewis’s coattails

 

 

Apparenly Hoodie and Kraft loved Wrecks... lol

 

 https://www.businessinsider.com/patriots-wanted-jets-to-keep-rex-ryan-2018-11

[row_33]

the Jets were long destroyed before and after Rex

 

 

[Dopey]

Took a 9-7 team to an 8-8 team , then a 7-9 team. Rex wasn't brought in to rebuild, he was supposed to take us over the top. Yet, he decided this really good defense needed to be rebuilt. Mcd took Rex's crap team and took them to the playoffs in his 1st year. Built a really good d by yr 2 and even said prior to the season, we might be looking at a season where the team is not as good as last year's playoff team(which wasn't that good).  As far as finding a link to Mcd. saying this, I know what I heard. If you want a link, look for it. I'm working. Plus, I think we have 1 player left from the 2 drafts where Rex was coach. 1 Player that I can tell(Miler). Rex didn't draft the players, but had plenty of input. I think what I am trying to say is Rex didn't last cuz he sucked. Pretty bad too.

JMO

 

 

2015 draft:

Ronald Darby, John Miller, Karlos Williams, Tony Stewart, O'leary and Dezmund Lewis.

2016 draft:

Lawson, Ragland, Adolphus Washington, Cardale Jones, Johnathan Williams, Listenbee, and Kevon Seymore.

2107 draft

White, Zay, Dion Dawkins, Millano, Peterman and Vallejo.

2018 draft

Allen, Edmunds, Phillips, Taron Johnson, Siran Neal, Wyatt Teller, Ray-Ray and Proehl

 

 

[row_33]

1 hour ago, ngbills said:

 

The Bills have lost 5 games by 20+ points this year. Last years 0-16 Browns lost only 1 by more than 20. This team is obviously not even competitive. Does anyone really think the Rex teams were worse? This could go down as one of the worst teams ever in the NFL. They have 8 TD's scored vs 27 given up. They have only scored a TD in 5 of 9 games. The Defense looks better than it is because teams take the foot of the gas when they are up big. 

 

Rex's teams weren't remotely as bad as this, i don't care what "stats" people want to throw at me.....

 

They've won twice, that puts them well above 0 or 1 win teams

 

i agree about the D coasting through garbagetime, but it's still the only decent facet of this team....

 

 

[freddyjj]

On 11/5/2018 at 1:46 AM, RosenNOTchosen1 said:

If my memory serves me correct this season is much worse than a couple years ago under Rex. Under Rex the team was very competitive and was almost in every single game that is played. Why did Ryan only get 2 years but with McDermott it's an automatic that he's coming back?

 

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My take here:

 

Not a given McD is back next year.

As for Rex, per staff at OBD he and Rob were last ones to work in AM and first to leave at night.  Not the best management skills.