RosenNOTchosen1 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 If my memory serves me correct this season is much worse than a couple years ago under Rex. Under Rex the team was very competitive and was almost in every single game that is played. Why did Ryan only get 2 years but with McDermott it's an automatic that he's coming back? ? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) Cuz he sucked. Don't waste our time with Wrex Wyan nonsense. Edited November 5, 2018 by OJ Tom Spelling 8 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittsforDave Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I’d think it would be because they made the playoffs last year. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills11 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Because there was a ton of problems behind the scenes and also the fact he was hired as a defensive Mastermind and the defence was quite poor ironically it was the offence that carried him . 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Accountability would be nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) The following is not a popular opinion on this board: As much as I love the Pegulas, it was a huge mistake firing Rex. There is no way a coach should be fired in less than two years --- especially a coach who had been the most successful coach for the Buffalo Bills for the past nearly two decades and who was being undermined behind the scenes with leaks etc. Rex should have been allowed to at least continue for the term of his contract. To put things in perspective, the point differential was much worse last year than the year before and the relative offensive and defensive rankings were worse last year than the year before. As much as Rex got grief for having 11 men on the field (when, as it turns out, a DB got hurt and a defensive back coach presumably did not send a replacement in the game), Rex never had 15 freaking guys on the field as McCoach did last year against the Pats. I do not think that I ever have seen any other team or coach have 15 guys on the field at the same time. Rex also had personality whereas the current guy is McMilktoast and cannot help repeating his stolen mantra the "process." McCoach is Dick Jauron without the charisma.* Between his personality and what he has done with the team, he has sucked the life out of the team (and my view of the team under him). I would take Rex over the current guy and thought it was unfair to undermine and then fire Rex in less than two years. As I state above, Rex should have been allowed to at least coach the team through the term of his contract. As much as I am not particularly impressed with McCoach, I also think that it would be unfair to fire him in less than two years. * For the younger readers, Dick Jauron did not have any charisma . . . and neither does McCoach. This was a joke. Edited November 5, 2018 by Peter 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I was under the impression the reason Ryan was let go was he was basically told to fire that inept buffoon he had as a de facto Defensive Coordinator & he refused so both of them were out on their butts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) Why hasn't Wrex been hired by another team? Edited November 5, 2018 by OJ Tom 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Playoffs. Get ready cause we’re going.. Are we going to do ground and pound? Yeah.. you’re darn right we are.. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 That’s the usual prison sentence handed out for impersonation of an NFL genius? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I heard on the radio that he really didn't like all the time that went into coaching and was the last person in and first person out. I think the Pegs got conned by his bravado and when they figured out he just wanted to hang with the guys and didnt run a right ship they cut bait. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosenNOTchosen1 Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 Through the same number of games this is how they compare. Rex 12-13 McDermott 11-14 2 hours ago, bills11 said: Because there was a ton of problems behind the scenes and also the fact he was hired as a defensive Mastermind and the defence was quite poor ironically it was the offence that carried him . Yes, the D did have it's problems under Rex but it was ranked 16th overall. McDermott currently has the worst offense in modern NFL history. That's a bigger issue IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 rex was never part of a rebuild. he was, however, the guy in charge as the wheels were falling off the wagon. and "his side" of the ball, with help from his brother, was getting progressively worse all the time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosenNOTchosen1 Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 Just now, swnybillsfan said: rex was never part of a rebuild. he was, however, the guy in charge as the wheels were falling off the wagon. and "his side" of the ball, with help from his brother, was getting progressively worse all the time. The defense was ranked 16th which is average. Our current offense is averaging under 11 points a game and is ranked dead last. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 2 hours ago, RosenNOTchosen1 said: If my memory serves me correct this season is much worse than a couple years ago under Rex. Under Rex the team was very competitive and was almost in every single game that is played. Why did Ryan only get 2 years but with McDermott it's an automatic that he's coming back? ? The saving grace for Rex was Tyrod and a decent offensive staff including what is proving to be the best O line coach in the business. The problem he kept running into was the defense was a hot mess, the team was undisciplined and there were a lot of mental errors. There is a lot of positives on this team but a main reason they aren't succeeding is their O line is not good and the offensive coach can't make up for those deficiences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Because this thing wasn't on like he said it was gunna be. That's why. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) Its funny because as a defensive headcoach you would know what kind of offensive/players that would give you trouble and build an offensive based upon that. That is what Rex basically did here and ironically it was his stubbornness on defensive that got him fired. On the other hand you got S. Mcdermottt who should know that same thing about what would cause his defensive trouble but did not go about it the same way. He should know that in no way a QB like Peterman would strike fear in ANY defensive coordinator. Sometimes I feel like a defensive coordinator should know more about what makes a good quarterback even more that a offensive coodinator because he has to defend said player. Edited November 5, 2018 by Protocal69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Rex Ryan was horrendous and wasted two years of my life. McBeane is hopefully only going to waste one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Peter said: The following is not a popular opinion on this board: As much as I love the Pegulas, it was a huge mistake firing Rex. There is no way a coach should be fired in less than two years --- especially a coach who had been the most successful coach for the Buffalo Bills for the past nearly two decades and who was being undermined behind the scenes with leaks etc. Rex should have been allowed to at least continue for the term of his contract. To put things in perspective, the point differential was much worse last year than the year before and the relative offensive and defensive rankings were worse last year than the year before. As much as Rex got grief for having11 men on the field (when, as it turns out, a DB got hurt and a defensive back coach presumably did not send a replacement in the game), Rex never had 15 freaking guys on the field as McCoach did last year against the Pats. I do not think that I ever have seen any other team or coach have 15 guys on the field at the same time. Rex also had personality whereas the current guy is McMilktoast and cannot help repeating his stolen mantra the "process." McCoach is Dick Jauron without the charisma. Between his personality and what he has done with the team, he has sucked the life out of the team (and my view of the team under him). I would take Rex over the current guy and thought it was unfair to undermine and then fire Rex in less than two years. As I state above, Rex should have been allowed to at least coach the team through the term of his contract. As much as I am not particularly impressed with McCoach, I also think that it would be unfair to fire him in less than two years. Dick Jauron had charisma? That I dont recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 12 minutes ago, billsintaiwan said: Rex Ryan was horrendous and wasted two years of my life. McBeane is hopefully only going to waste one year. I don't think they're getting fired after this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 hour ago, RosenNOTchosen1 said: Through the same number of games this is how they compare. Rex 12-13 McDermott 11-14 Yes, the D did have it's problems under Rex but it was ranked 16th overall. McDermott currently has the worst offense in modern NFL history. That's a bigger issue IMO. Look at the dead cap number. We're rebuilding and we currently have no qb. Rex would be 0-8 right now and we wouldn't have made the playoffs a year ago. 20 minutes ago, Skins Malone said: Dick Jauron had charisma? That I dont recall. Yeah.. what is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) Clown on Rex as much as you want but ever having Tyrod and Incognito was all him. Starting to feel like McDermott got very lucky with Rex and Whaleys roster last year. If Allen continues to be a train wreck next year the Bills will be looking for a new head coach in January 2020. The Pegulas made a giant mistake hiring a coach and letting him hand pick a GM. Edited November 5, 2018 by thenorthremembers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 It's pretty simple to me, and it makes me want to look at their other businesses to see if I can find any hints of dysfunction to this level. Nobody knew who was their boss whole Rex was here. Whaley was the GM, supposedly had control over the interview process, didn't want Rex. Was probably right given the personnel on defense. The Pegulas were wowed by Rex and hired him outside of the GM, completely undercutting him. Then you saw the debacle with Tyrod, whether he'd play or not at the end. He needed surgery but wanted to play. Rex needed a win. Whaley was looking at the bigger picture trying to sit him. And the owners ultimately had to make the decision because their was no clear chain of command, and no clear outline of job responsibilities for either. They then promptly threw everyone out in front of the media, and it was well known by that point, Whaley isn't a great communicator. I'm just going to stop. Watching how the Pegulas do things with their teams make me wonder how they are so successful. Happy they kept the teams here, but wow is it bad. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjjr Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Rex promised to win right away and the roster was built to win right away as soon as he arrived. He didn't win enough. McDermott promised to win long term and build the roster that way. Beane is building the roster that way but that also includes some days like yesterday. Have to remember that Rex and Whaley made roster decisions and gave contracts to players that ended up not performing. The last two seasons have been about McDermott and Beane unloading those contracts and working through the dead cap to restructure the roster. With that said, this has to be worse than anyone thought it would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Rex Ryan, the mistake that should have never been. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Rex got 2 years cause he was a buffoon........end of story 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse Nuts Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Rex Ryan, and his DA twin brother, are buffoons and always will be buffoons. And that's putting it mildly. Anyone who can't see that by now, well, I just feel really sorry for you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabden Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 5 hours ago, RosenNOTchosen1 said: If my memory serves me correct this season is much worse than a couple years ago under Rex. Under Rex the team was very competitive and was almost in every single game that is played. Why did Ryan only get 2 years but with McDermott it's an automatic that he's coming back? ? Because the team gave up on him... and he had was a circus level distraction with all hype and no real answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 5 hours ago, RosenNOTchosen1 said: If my memory serves me correct this season is much worse than a couple years ago under Rex. Under Rex the team was very competitive and was almost in every single game that is played. Why did Ryan only get 2 years but with McDermott it's an automatic that he's coming back? ? My feeling is that he had a loaded defense from the previous coach and he destroyed it. He seemed that he did not have any viable plan. He hired his brother. He was a clown. Just a few examples. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Likes The Bills Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Should’ve kept Lynn. I think we’d be in a much better spot. Look at the chargers, their offense is humming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Playoffs. Get ready cause we’re going.. Are we going to do ground and pound? Yeah.. you’re darn right we are.. Maybe the Pegulas were concerned the Wrecks was going to pull out the "let's go eat a #¥<<[%+ snack" speech when the Cub Scouts came to visit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Cuz he was too busy satisfying his foot fetish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Peter said: The following is not a popular opinion on this board: As much as I love the Pegulas, it was a huge mistake h[f]iring Rex. There is no way a coach should be fired in less than two years --- especially a coach who had been the most successful coach for the Buffalo Bills for the past nearly two decades and who was being undermined behind the scenes with leaks etc. Rex should have been allowed to at least continue for the term of his contract. To put things in perspective, the point differential was much worse last year than the year before and the relative offensive and defensive rankings were worse last year than the year before. As much as Rex got grief for having11 men on the field (when, as it turns out, a DB got hurt and a defensive back coach presumably did not send a replacement in the game), Rex never had 15 freaking guys on the field as McCoach did last year against the Pats. I do not think that I ever have seen any other team or coach have 15 guys on the field at the same time. Rex also had personality whereas the current guy is McMilktoast and cannot help repeating his stolen mantra the "process." McCoach is Dick Jauron without the charisma. Between his personality and what he has done with the team, he has sucked the life out of the team (and my view of the team under him). I would take Rex over the current guy and thought it was unfair to undermine and then fire Rex in less than two years. As I state above, Rex should have been allowed to at least coach the team through the term of his contract. As much as I am not particularly impressed with McCoach, I also think that it would be unfair to fire him in less than two years. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 His big mouth and his style. McDermott says all the right things to the media. 47 minutes ago, Sweats said: Rex got 2 years cause he was a buffoon........end of story And McDermott is right there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Cause him and his defensive guru brother converted a top 5 defense into a bottom tier defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 And McDermott is getting blown out all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Rex coached the most talent roster Buffalo has had since the Superbowl years (2015 roster was loaded) and underperformed against expectation. He was a half assed Head Coach and it was right that he was fired. McDermott has coached significantly less talented rosters. What is clear though is that he had pretty significant input into the tear down of these rosters. He gets next year on the basis that he and Beane seem to have bene hired on the basis of this "it will take two years to rebuild" narrative, whereas Rex came to town declaring he was going to win and win immediately. I am now for the first time of the view that McDermott's seat is warming up. I can't believe the owner expected a team this utterly inept. 2 weeks ago I'd have said it was 99% certain McDermott and Beane would be back in 2019. Now I am down around 80%. A couple more embarrassments and their position starts to look untenable. The 0-16 Browns were in most games. So far the 2-7 Bills have been blown out big on 5 occasions. The bigger worry is of those 5 only the Chargers and the Packers are teams I would say are playoff standard teams. The Ravens, the Colts and the Bears are in various states of transition themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, Helpmenow said: And McDermott is getting blown out all the time Not because of the defense.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 3 hours ago, RosenNOTchosen1 said: Through the same number of games this is how they compare. Rex 12-13 McDermott 11-14 1 The difference in the salary cap is massive when comparing those two eras. When Rex came in, the Bills splurged in Free Agency, essentially forming a geriatric all-star team. When McDermott came in, they had to "pay off the credit cards" from the previous regime. If Rex had to purge cap instead of eating up the future, he'd have a different record. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Generic Screen Name 2 said: Rex Ryan, and his DA twin brother, are buffoons and always will be buffoons. Taking a page from Johnnie Cochran, I always think of those two as the 'twin devils of deception'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts