SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-today-mike-mccarthy-calls-allen-a-stud Throughout his 25-year professional coaching career, the Green Bay Packers head coach has worked with some of the best passers in NFL history. McCarthy coached Brett Favre to a 4,000-yard season as Green Bay’s quarterbacks coach in 1999. “I think he’s done some really nice things,” McCarthy said. “I think you have to be excited about when your rookie quarterback wins games. he’s a stud of an athlete, you can see that in his ability to run.” Edited September 27, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 I think he is every bit as effective a runner as Tyrod. Big man that moves really well. Stay healthy … 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, hemma said: I think he is every bit as effective a runner as Tyrod. Big man that moves really well. Stay healthy … Actually, I would offer that he's better. While obviosly not as fast, he will actually try and throw before he runs most times that Ive noticed. Also he's very good at situational football, gets what he needs however he can. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Is he saying he wants to bang our QB? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 I bet he says that to all the QBs. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Troll Toll said: Is he saying he wants to bang our QB? i enjoyed this more than i should have. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 27, 2018 Author Share Posted September 27, 2018 17 minutes ago, hemma said: I think he is every bit as effective a runner as Tyrod. Big man that moves really well. Stay healthy … Taller people tend to "look slower" than shorter people I think someone had a post or thread about his running speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Allen is the white version of Cam Newton, with a stronger arm and who hopefully turns into the more consistent passer of the two. I think the Elway comparisons are not that far fetched if he continues to improve with his reads, timing, and footwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 27, 2018 Author Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, H2o said: Allen is the white version of Cam Newton, with a stronger arm and who hopefully turns into the more consistent passer of the two. I think the Elway comparisons are not that far fetched if he continues to improve with his reads, timing, and footwork. really? did you have to go there? a simple comparison of two men would be sufficient as you did with Horse Face Elway. (tongue in cheek) Edited September 27, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liverpoolkev Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, H2o said: Allen is the white version of Cam Newton, with a stronger arm and who hopefully turns into the more consistent passer of the two. I think the Elway comparisons are not that far fetched if he continues to improve with his reads, timing, and footwork. more like Blake Bortles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Just now, liverpoolkev said: more like Blake Bortles why would you say that kev? are you trying too hard again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) His running changes everything about the offense, because we have limited talent on that side of the ball. If they can get him for 30 or 40 yards per game they could be more competitive and probably win more games. 4 minutes ago, teef said: why would you say that kev? are you trying too hard again? He already sees the field better than Bortles. Has to keep improving though. Edited September 27, 2018 by CuddyDark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 minute ago, CuddyDark said: His running changes everything about the offense, because we have limited talent on that side of the ball. If they can get him for 30 or 40 yards per game they could be more competitive and probably win more games. He already sees the field better than Bortles. Has to keep improving though. at this early stage, i think so too. kev is just a colorful poster, and i was wonder what his logic was by comparing allen to brotles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 31 minutes ago, hemma said: I think he is every bit as effective a runner as Tyrod. Big man that moves really well. Stay healthy … But he can't escape like Tyrod did. That was Tyrod's main strength...keeping broken plays alive. I am happy to have a real QB and not the other way around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, H2o said: Allen is the white version of Cam Newton, with a stronger arm and who hopefully turns into the more consistent passer of the two. I think the Elway comparisons are not that far fetched if he continues to improve with his reads, timing, and footwork. 9 minutes ago, liverpoolkev said: more like Blake Bortles The white version of Blake Bortles? Oh, wait Blake Bortles is the white version of Blake Bortles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 24 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: Actually, I would offer that he's better. While obviosly not as fast, he will actually try and throw before he runs most times that Ive noticed. Also he's very good at situational football, gets what he needs however he can. He's not as fast as Tyrod but at the same time he's nowhere near as lanky. Tyrod would've never been able to make the hurdle over Barr because Barr never would've shyed away from Tyrod. Taking on Allen with a full head of steam is gonna make many defenders think twice and in turn " brace for impact". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 ..."Mr. McCarthy, John Ledyard is one the other line....says he needs to straighten your azz out on this Allen stud"................... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 27, 2018 Author Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ganesh said: But he can't escape like Tyrod did. That was Tyrod's main strength...keeping broken plays alive. I am happy to have a real QB and not the other way around disagree. he avoided some pressure with some quick hops to the left then to the right and made a pass vs the Chargers In 2.5 games Josh has had 11 sacks compared to Tyrod's 13 sacks in 2.5 games Edited September 27, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: disagree. he avoided some pressure with some quick hops to the left then to the right and made a pass vs the Chargers In 2.5 games Josh has had 11 sacks compared to Tyrod's 13 sacks in 2.5 games He also shrugged Terrell Suggs off of him in the Ravens game, something TT wouldnt be able to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: disagree. he avoided some pressure with some quick hops to the left then to the right and made a pass vs the Chargers In 2.5 games Josh has had 11 sacks compared to Tyrod's 13 sacks in 2.5 games Same as when Tyrod was here, sack don't matter for this kind of QB. They have to chase him. It tires the rush for later in the game. Take sacks, just don't turn it over. Especially if defense is playing well. Aaron Rodgers takes a lot of sacks too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Teams are going to start spying Allen now so he might have more plays in the middle of the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 The third piece about Zo currently rated top 5 edge rusher, he's such a great story and important part of McD's culture change. For me, he's close to being in the Fred/Kyle Category of respect for Bills players that stand out over the long drought period. For Zo tho, he marks the transition to glory days to come... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Teams are going to start spying Allen now so he might have more plays in the middle of the field That's just one less defender to beat with his arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 27, 2018 Author Share Posted September 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: Same as when Tyrod was here, sack don't matter for this kind of QB. They have to chase him. It tires the rush for later in the game. Take sacks, just don't turn it over. Especially if defense is playing well. Aaron Rodgers takes a lot of sacks too. I'd rather he threw the ball away to avoid the sack but he'll learn (hopefully) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 31 minutes ago, ganesh said: But he can't escape like Tyrod did. That was Tyrod's main strength...keeping broken plays alive. I am happy to have a real QB and not the other way around I disagree with this. He's spun out of pressure, broken sacks, and has kept broken plays alive a lot in the 2.5 games he's played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 56 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: Is he saying he wants to bang our QB? Calling him a stud I'd think would be the other say around?? Maybe Mike's been hanging around the shower room too long?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-today-mike-mccarthy-calls-allen-a-stud Throughout his 25-year professional coaching career, the Green Bay Packers head coach has worked with some of the best passers in NFL history. McCarthy coached Brett Favre to a 4,000-yard season as Green Bay’s quarterbacks coach in 1999. “I think he’s done some really nice things,” McCarthy said. “I think you have to be excited about when your rookie quarterback wins games. he’s a stud of an athlete, you can see that in his ability to run.” I think calling a QB a "stud" is different than a "stud athlete".... But beyond semantics, Allen is showing flashes of being able to do things we haven't seen since Jimbo. And it's not just his arm, either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, hemma said: I think he is every bit as effective a runner as Tyrod. Big man that moves really well. Stay healthy … I was shocked at how fast he looked on that run to the goalline that he dove on...dude looked way way faster than a 4.73 40 time would lead you to believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 27, 2018 Author Share Posted September 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: I disagree with this. He's spun out of pressure, broken sacks, and has kept broken plays alive a lot in the 2.5 games he's played. I guess its the analogy where people tend to remember the bad before the good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Troll Toll said: Is he saying he wants to bang our QB? .....with those big hands, his wife probably does. Edited September 27, 2018 by I am the egg man 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 54 minutes ago, pop gun said: That's just one less defender to beat with his arm. BINGO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, hemma said: I think he is every bit as effective a runner as Tyrod. Big man that moves really well. Stay healthy … Clearly he’s not as quick and elusive as TT. But I think hemma said it correctly: he seems to be just effective. I would like a bigger sample size but so far I’m encouraged by both his arm and his legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 47 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I'd rather he threw the ball away to avoid the sack but he'll learn (hopefully) He will learn that eventually. Luckily Allen is one of the few QBs in the league where a sack isn't a death sentence for the drive. 3rd and 15 is like a 3rd and 7 for him. It's not ideal but it isn't insurmountable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, ganesh said: But he can't escape like Tyrod did. That was Tyrod's main strength...keeping broken plays alive. I am happy to have a real QB and not the other way around That's the thing with Tyrod though, the plays break down because of him holding the ball too long and not throwing receivers open. Hopefully as Allen progresses, throwing receivers open will be a skill he further develops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art in PNS Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Teams are going to start spying Allen now so he might have more plays in the middle of the field Yes and Daboll should be planning that , because it opens things up like screens , short passes to the running back out of the backfiled , and the BOMB when Foster learns to catch !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, ganesh said: But he can't escape like Tyrod did. That was Tyrod's main strength...keeping broken plays alive. I am happy to have a real QB and not the other way around Indeed. I much prefer Josh's style, he is a "real QB", or more accurately, can be a way more complete one, and I love his run selections so far, but Tyrod could escape pressure better than any other QB. Short crisp passes over the middle can take care of at least 50% of these needs to scramble so I'll take Allen there too. Both he and Tyrod don't get hit often running. Allen has not being doing long enough to be sure, but even in preseason, he barely got hit. Tyrod and Allen get their lumps as passers, not as runners. Cam acts as a running back by design, and I don't get it. It must sometimes hurt his throwing arm if nothing else. But not our problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 2 hours ago, The_Dude said: I bet he says that to all the QBs. TBF, he said "stud of an athlete", which is pretty undeniable given 3 plays vs Vikings last week. If I were Allen, I'd be all "I'm a stud of a QB too, McCarthy. Hold My Beer." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 He called him a "stud of an athlete", which no one can really deny. It's different than him calling Allen a stud of a QB, which he hopefully develops into. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 speaking of studs. Aaron Rodgers' practice absence having ill effects By Kevin Patra Around the NFL Writer Each week since injuring his knee in the season opener, Aaron Rodgers has sat out practice Wednesday through Friday, taken part Saturday and played Sunday. The Green Bay Packers starting quarterback missing practice time during the week seems to be having a pervasive effect on the rest of the team. "He's clearly the guy that probably stirs the drink down there on Hinkle Field," coach Mike McCarthy said, via the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. "He's so competitive. Once again, the quarterback position has to bring that to your program. You cannot grow during the week if your quarterbacks aren't bringing it." The lack of chemistry between Rodgers and his receivers was evident in last week's loss to the Washington Redskins. The entire offense just seemed a tad off, whether it was the quarterback uncharacteristically missing throws due to his balky knee or miscommunications with the receivers. The Packers hope the continued missed time doesn't haunt Sunday against a Buffalo Bills defense that just obliterated Green Bay's division rival Minnesota Vikings last week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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