GunnerBill Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: Ah. 'Standard'. A new turn of phrase. One that I must have not seen in your last comment...the one right before you said 'reading helps' or something to that effect. I should have realized when you said certain NFL players are not NFL players you meant those NFL players are not NFL 'standard' players...because an NFL 'standard' player is such a simple and intuitive concept, especially for us non-NFL playing fans. ' The read what I wrote was in response to your smart attempt to misquote me from a number of days ago. It is a pretty simple concept. Watch the players closely. See if they are capable of making plays at this level. The ones that are put in the "NFL standard" bucket. The ones that aren't put in the "Not NFL standard" bucket. It takes a lot of time I do confess to spend so much time watching and rewatching the plays but if you do then the eye in the sky don't lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Oh that Foster! He'll just never learn to catch the ball, will he. Well, let’s be honest here...it’s not like the kid doesn’t have a history of dropping passes. He needs to reel in a few of those long balls from Allen or he’s just a fast guy who is bad at catching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 38 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: 2nd qtr-down the sideline- right through his hands. Allen couldnt have thrown a more perfect pass. Please cut this guy, pronto. We really don't have too many other options and he's a young kid. At least he's getting open. Seems like fans here want to cut everyone who has a bad game or couple games. Players and coaches can improve. Leslie Frazier is a shining example of that today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 36 minutes ago, Doc said: LOL! So, so far the Bills should cut Benjamin, Jones, Clay and Foster. Benjamin is an NFL talent. As is Clay. They are both likely in their last year as Bills though. Foster based on what he has put on tape just isn't. Zay the jury remains firmly out. I agree with whoever said in the game thread that Ray-Ray is the only one at the moment I am willing to consider a part of the 2019 Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabden Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 36 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: 2nd qtr-down the sideline- right through his hands. Allen couldnt have thrown a more perfect pass. Please cut this guy, pronto. Foster is a rookie free agent with speed, he dropped a couple of hard catches. On the other hand, slower than dog sh!t, first round 4th-year pro, Benjamin drops two very catchable balls. Guess who I am getting rid of? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Name a WR that never dropped a pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 some WR help would be great. Leave no stone unturned. They brought in CB/OL this week, next week some WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Well, let’s be honest here...it’s not like the kid doesn’t have a history of dropping passes. He needs to reel in a few of those long balls from Allen or he’s just a fast guy who is bad at catching. My point, I guess, is that if he does start catching them he's a legit weapon. In the meanwhile I think it's a little premature to call him 'not NFL standard' or whatever. Whatever. I have no dog in the Foster fight, but just realistically you can't know much about a rookie until they play a year or two. Especially a rookie wideout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, mabden said: Foster is a rookie free agent with speed, he dropped a couple of hard catches. On the other hand, slower than dog sh!t, first round 4th-year pro, Benjamin drops two very catchable balls. Guess who I am getting rid of? If Foster can’t catch a ball by now, chances are he never will! You cant compare him and Kelvin because they both stink. Edited September 23, 2018 by billsfan_34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Have to laugh. Judging a player play by play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: My point, I guess, is that if he does start catching them he's a legit weapon. In the meanwhile I think it's a little premature to call him 'not NFL standard' or whatever. Whatever. I have no dog in the Foster fight, but just realistically you can't know much about a rookie until they play a year or two. Especially a rookie wideout. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) I'm in the minority but I'm hoping/thinking Foster's going to grow into a legitimately reliable WR. I saw him at 3 TC practices and to me he just jumped out at each - was so fast and smooth and getting open. And he also was catching balls too. I think he's just a little overwhelmed in live action - and eventually it will come together for him. I'm rooting for him Edited September 23, 2018 by stevewin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Reminds me of TJ Graham. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Have to laugh. Judging a player play by play. Not play by play, however, a receivers job for the most part is catch the ball- until he starts to haul them in he will be criticized. Edited September 23, 2018 by billsfan_34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 minute ago, LeGOATski said: Reminds me of TJ Graham. yeah lets take TJ over Russell Wilson. But I am glad we have Josh Allen now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 minute ago, LeGOATski said: Reminds me of TJ Graham. Ouch. lol I will say, having seen both in person up close, Foster is “built” much better that TJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandemonium Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 55 minutes ago, Rad Likes The Bills said: We should probably start over next year. Seriously I’m only keeping Ray Ray He should’ve fair caught that punt that rolled for an extra 30 yards, cut him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 21 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Name a WR that never dropped a pass. I’m surprised you didn’t say Allen threw the ball 3 centimeters too far and it’s actually his fault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Foster - Well he gets open and he seems to know the plays so for a rookie Fister has 2/3rds of it. Sure he needs to catch the ball. I would not cut him so soon, he can improve and we have nothing else. Beane needs to make WR a priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 24 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Not play by play, however, a receivers job for the most part is catch the ball- until he starts to haul them in he will be criticized. Until he drops one again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Until he drops one again. Na, I will chime in when he whiffs on a block or trips over his own feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: So did Benjamin and Clay Is the answer to the question of Who won't be on the Bills' roster next year? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 50 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Name a WR that never dropped a pass. Sorry for your loss. KB is trying to join Foster on the no hands team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Sorry for your loss. KB is trying to join Foster on the no hands team What loss is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 He is the only player who gets separation. We have to at least see if he starts to make the plays. He did make a diving catch for a first down last week as well as a very nice first down run and catch on the mini shovel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 He's here because he's the only WR on the team that can separate from coverage. It's an awful WR group. He has astonishingly poor ball skills for someone who has reached this level but until teams stop chasing him he serves a purpose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Foster is Duvalls Ducasse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Foster is terrible. God I miss Goodwin....and Robert....and Sammy....and O'Leary....oh well, Josh will be getting new toys next Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: He's here because he's the only WR on the team that can separate from coverage. It's an awful WR group. He has astonishingly poor ball skills for someone who has reached this level but until teams stop chasing him he serves a purpose. His ability to get behind defenders is exceptional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: His ability to get behind defenders is exceptional. Great. But you have to finish. So far he has shown no ability to do that. At the end of the day, it isn't a track meet. I'd rather a player who can't separate but still makes the play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: His ability to get behind defenders is exceptional. His ability to track a ball after behind said defenders is pop warner level 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Our WR's and TE's, as a group, can't catch a cold. Foster alligatored that catch, and his lack of heart in laying out for perfectly thrown balls is getting tedious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 And Allen isn’t accurate. Similar canard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: His ability to get behind defenders is exceptional. How many points are awarded for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: And Allen isn’t accurate. Similar canard. Sure, lets compare qb to wr especially after Allen is coming off a top notch game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Just now, Sky Diver said: His ability to get behind defenders is exceptional. His wheels are special. Cuts thru deep coverage like a hot knife. He's in the right place because this is one of the few teams in the league with a WR corps so bad that they can afford to have a guy that can't track or catch a deep ball running deep routes. His ability as a WR will almost certainly never reach his talent as a runner but guys with bad ball skills CAN improve. Deonte Thompson went from just-as-bad at tracking and catching the ball to serviceable in time and he isn't quite as smooth as Foster. RF's smooth, lack of wasted movement is unusual and deceptive which is worth more in the game action than a tenth of a second in the 40. Peerless Price had that deceptive style "rising fastball" effect which made him a deep threat despite being a 4.55 40 yard dasher.......but of course he could track and catch the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 he better start catching those, because he won't last long in this league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said: His wheels are special. Cuts thru deep coverage like a hot knife. He's in the right place because this is one of the few teams in the league with a WR corps so bad that they can afford to have a guy that can't track or catch a deep ball running deep routes. His ability as a WR will almost certainly never reach his talent as a runner but guys with bad ball skills CAN improve. Deonte Thompson went from just-as-bad at tracking and catching the ball to serviceable in time and he isn't quite as smooth as Foster. RF's smooth, lack of wasted movement is unusual and deceptive which is worth more in the game action than a tenth of a second in the 40. Peerless Price had that deceptive style "rising fastball" effect which made him a deep threat despite being a 4.55 40 yard dasher.......but of course he could track and catch the ball. I wonder how a guy who can’t catch or field a ball is a 5* recruit and is ranked the number 2 WR in the country. 2 minutes ago, Fixxxer said: he better start catching those, because he won't last long in this league. And the “experts” here said he no chance of making the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: I wonder how a guy who can’t catch or field a ball is a 5* recruit and is ranked the number 2 WR in the country. And the “experts” here said he no chance of making the team. The 5* thing is for HS players. This is the NFL. You don’t get points for getting open. He only made this team because we have the worst WR corps in the league. (Or should I say corpse?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 34 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: He is the only player who gets separation. We have to at least see if he starts to make the plays. He did make a diving catch for a first down last week as well as a very nice first down run and catch on the mini shovel. True but Allen doesn't need receivers that can get 5 yards of separation. He needs receivers that can track the ball and catch. Shockingly Andre Holmes is our #1 WR in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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