Ray Finkel Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I thought Daboll put the kid in good situations early in the game. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Seems like that play calling he had in the carolina preseason game finally came back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 fantastic today. put Allen in a great position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Very good game today......really able to spread the ball amongst most receivers on the team......great to see today..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COTC Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 The illegal formations were odd. Overall, a great called game but Dabs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Play design to Croom was perfect. Pulled defense in with dink and dunks offense and then faked a screen. Great sequence. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Agreed. He called a great game today. Made things easier for Allen. I also think Russell Bodine deserves some credit for the 1st half. It looked like he was helping to call out protections at the line. As I said in the game day thread, I think that’s one of the reasons why this offense has missed E. Wood so much. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeIGiveADarn Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 minute ago, COTC said: The illegal formations were odd. Overall, a great called game but Dabs. I think they were trying to see what they could get away with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said: I thought Daboll put the kid in good situations early in the game. Finally, a good postgame observation. Daboll did great. The TD to Croom was pretty. You know the OC did a good job when he could sit back and chill for the entire 2nd half basically. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Yeah the opening drive playcalling was brilliant as was the play design that had Croon wide open for the TD... Bet he is getting some from the Pegulas daughter tonite... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Yeah for sure in the beginning a lot of tricky formations and safe throws to open things up and get Allen some confidence. They really game planned for all phases today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I liked it all.....I did wish we would have remained aggressive in the 2nd half but we were up by mulitple scores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I have one nitpick and it’s not about the play calling. It’s about clock management. He needs to be in Allen’s ear about taking maximum time off the clock when it suits our purpose. Saw precious little of that in the third quarter. Was much better in the fourth, but we gave the Vikings three minutes of extra time in the third by not milking the clock. Coaches like Belichick manage the clock with leads as early as the first quarter just for comparison sake. That said, great job of play calling. Too bad Josh was hurt by some key drops, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, COTC said: The illegal formations were odd. Overall, a great called game but Dabs. i kept waiting for them to show a replay but they never did. i'm guessing the tackle(s) were too far off the line of scrimmage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Bills gotta get their TEs more involved, gotta get some more crossing routes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Foxx said: i kept waiting for them to show a replay but they never did. i'm guessing the tackle(s) were too far off the line of scrimmage. I thought someone in the game thread mentioned it looked like someone not "reporting in" correctly. I dont know though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I liked it. Varied plays, passes on 1st downs including long ones, small passes to the flats to Ivory, etc. At last it was creative. And quite obvious more "zip it" plays are what is needed for Josh. Cute plays didn't work. Some of his touch pass play were simply dropped. I didn't think we can judge if they were too conservative in the 2nd half. If the Vikings had sown life and they had remained like that, sure, blame them. But as they continued to beat themselves, perfect approach IMO. And think about it: no real running game to speak of and no WRs, again - drops galore and hardly relied on. Hell Benjamin got credited for a catch on what was yet another drop. Yet they scored 27 points! Touchdown reception by a TE and the long pass play was by a running back. The Bills' D won't deliver this field position time and time again, but imagine what that offense can do with a McCoy that gets his yards and some wideouts that finally catch passes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Op is correct. Daboll coached a good and smart game throughout the game. I know no one likes running late, but it was smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Yeah the opening drive playcalling was brilliant as was the play design that had Croon wide open for the TD... Bet he is getting some from the Pegulas daughter tonite... Agreed, what a great call after I think two screen/wing passes to Ivory that way... what a perfect call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) we actually looked like an NFL offense out there today in the first half. in the second we were playing prevent, so not much to be said for that other than that was the smart conservative play. Edited September 23, 2018 by Foxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I liked it all.....I did wish we would have remained aggressive in the 2nd half but we were up by mulitple scores with that kind of lead it didn't bother me so much with letting off the gas. it saved from making any mistakes that could of allowed the vikes back in the game. real impressed with the defense holding up all 4 quarters and keeping the vikes in check only allowing the one td and breaking up the two point conversion. if I didn't see it with my own two eyes, I wouldn't of believed the outcome. McD had them well prepared and the slack all week with the point spread and being considered the worst team in the league, really fueled this team beyond expectations. Edited September 23, 2018 by no name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhickedWilliams Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Need this style offense and he looks like the real deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 4 hours ago, K-9 said: I have one nitpick and it’s not about the play calling. It’s about clock management. He needs to be in Allen’s ear about taking maximum time off the clock when it suits our purpose. Saw precious little of that in the third quarter. Was much better in the fourth, but we gave the Vikings three minutes of extra time in the third by not milking the clock. Coaches like Belichick manage the clock with leads as early as the first quarter just for comparison sake. That said, great job of play calling. Too bad Josh was hurt by some key drops, too. I thought he was often getting the play in late. Josh had to look over the defense starting at 10 seconds to go on play clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 He's officially be renamed Brain Daboll after the brilliant game plan. Let's hope the excellent play design and execution continue to keep opposing defenses off balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomper Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 13 hours ago, Kmart128 said: Play design to Croom was perfect. Pulled defense in with dink and dunks offense and then faked a screen. Great sequence. Exactly. Slot corner bit so hard on the flat route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 13 hours ago, Ray Finkel said: I thought Daboll put the kid in good situations early in the game. I think the defense put "the kid" in good situations early in the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 On 9/23/2018 at 1:51 PM, COTC said: The illegal formations were odd. This made me feel like I was watching the Pats at times...again more parallels with Daboll. But the looks they try to give defenses always are borderline LOS issues. When they aren't, they seem to work well in packaging plays. I'm still geeking over the fake screen pass TD to Croom. Just like @Kmart128 said, it's amazing what success with the run game and screen pass can open up when used effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 We saw a regression from Daboll today IMO with not enough emphasis on the running game to set up the pass. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: We saw a regression from Daboll today IMO with not enough emphasis on the running game to set up the pass. Way more than that. A few interesting passes to the slants /short runs in the 1st quarter, including a few double back sets. Then it seemingly was deep passes galore, no hot outlets for Allen in case of (the many) blitzes or to dump off. It made little sense. Sure Josh has the arm for it but even on 3rd and short the wideouts were all going deep. What about one checkdown guy? And I recall 2 designed QB runs. One on a 1st and 20, one when down 19 or 22-0. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Just now, Jerome007 said: Way more than that. A few interesting passes to the slants /short runs in the 1st quarter, including a few double back sets. Then it seemingly was deep passes galore, no hot outlets for Allen in case of (the many) blitzes or to dump off. It made little sense. Sure Josh has the arm for it but even on 3rd and short the wideouts were all going deep. What about one checkdown guy? And I recall 2 designed QB runs. One on a 1st and 20, one when down 19 or 22-0. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 I thought today was a really dumb game plan from the offense. The Packers have a great pass rush, we knew that going in but the Daboll seems to have thought that somehow the O Line could deal with it. There should have been way more screens, quick slants, hitches or shovel passes to avoid this. Instead they played into the Packers hands by pushing Allen into throwing deep balls with little time to set up. Allen took a huge beating because of this, with sacks, hurries and knock downs after the throws. The Bills receivers just cannot get any separation from Dbs and they have difficulty with the zip Allen puts on the ball (judging by more drops today). Cannot stand that we constantly seem unprepared for teams whose strengths we know. Just plain dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 And the first 3rd and 1, Daboll should have called play action. I’m tired of the up the middle crap into the teeth of the defense. Could have started out with a better drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: There is your answer. Daboll is going to have different game plans and evaluate what works and doesn't with these guys. Talent wise most of it won't work. If anyone thinks the Offensive talent is anywhere close to taking this team to the playoffs well that isn't going to happen. For all those that want to run run run all I got to say is if you take JA rushing stats out I don't think the Bills RBs are averaging 3.5 yard per carry. I'm not praising Daboll just stating that this is a very bad offense with a raw rookie QB. Prepare for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 The NFL has morphed into a quick pass league. Don’t hold the ball for more than a second or two. Don’t let he defense ever get close enough for a sack. That’s why these old, immobile QBs can still play. Long passing routes with double moves are so five years ago. Daboll has to get with the modern game plan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 As clever as it was last week it was predictable and awful this week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) When your line can't block and you QB can't process fast and get the ball out then it doesn't leave many plays in the playbook worth calling. I do wonder if we have a wide receiver bubble screen though. I see other teams run that play effectively every week. Edited September 30, 2018 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Just now, Gray Beard said: The NFL has morphed into a quick pass league. Don’t hold the ball for more than a second or two. Don’t let he defense ever get close enough for a sack. That’s why these old, immobile QBs can still play. Long passing routes with double moves are so five years ago. Daboll has to get with the modern game plan. Yep. Thought the play calling last week was great, but today was putrid. May not all be on daboll, but I thought last week was much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 I think Daboll needs to call all short stuff to start the game, quick hitting stuff. Nothing over 10 yards. That and runs. Get things moving a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: When your lone can't block and you QB can't process fast and get the ball out then it doesn't leave many plays in the playbook worth calling. I do wonder if we have a wide receiver bubble screen though. I see other teams run that play effectively every week. Except one WR screen to Holmes, who is known for being elusive and shifty and breaking tackles WTF?! There were no screens I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: When your line can't block and you QB can't process fast and get the ball out then it doesn't leave many plays in the playbook worth calling. I do wonder if we have a wide receiver bubble screen though. I see other teams run that play effectively every week. Then don't call long developing routes that call for the QB to work through progressions that have him holding the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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