Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 31 minutes ago, WMDman said: bring back joe webb!! Is he Jack Webb's grandson? Or is he Jack Nicholson's grandson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Paulus said: And, those aren't "most." You know he said "most" right? Are you disputing that most don't pan out? That's not what the poster who Peace Frog quoted said, at all. And if youre referring to the brilliant complaint Dbilz2500 issued, well, you can choose to be on that side if you wish. Edited September 1, 2018 by DrDawkinstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Going miss his wife 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 27 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: . Does this guy know what he is doing? Probably not. I'm quite confident you do, however. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNubbins Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 23 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: I think this locks Allen in as Day 1 starter. Pickpeterman showed enough to stick around for another year, but not start ahead of the 7th overall Pick at extraordinary cost I highly doubt it. If we were planning Allen as starter, why not trade Peterman instead for a 2nd or 3rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 That 4th quarter comeback on Thursday really made an impression on Gruden, I see...suckerrrrrr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I had a conversation last weekend with my brother about this very trade. McCarron hasn’t been impressive at all and the Raiders were looking to upgrade their backup position. It was too obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: That's not what the poster who Peace Frog quoted said, at all. And if youre referring to the brilliant complaint Dbilz2500 issued, well, you can choose to be on that side if you wish. That's a bald faced lie. And, screw your false dilemma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Going miss his wife So will Josh Allen... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 The Browns agreed to trade a second and third round pick for AJ last year: Browns agreed to trade a second and third round pick to Bengals for AJ McBeane converted a second and third round pick into what has been reported to be a fifth round pick. I am not sure why some are bragging about the compensation we got. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Happy we got something for him at least. A couple weeks ago we thought he was done with a broken collarbone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I assume Beane will look for a rookie QB from among other teams' cuts to stick on the PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I'm littlejoecartwright and I do not approve this deal, leaving only 2 inexperienced QBs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 29 minutes ago, Augie said: Maybe we can sign EJ, then trade him back to Gruden? Cue the Jedi mind control speech for Beane: "Chuckie, this isn't the quarterback you just released..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 25 minutes ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: Do we bring in another QB? I just have zero confidence in our O line keeping our guys upright... I don’t believe so. I am pretty sure they will just run with the two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: Why couldn’t McCarron be included in a package for Mack? Well, maybe he was but when the price got too high & the Bears offered 2 first round picks the Bills probably dropped out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Are we on the hook for his cap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Happy Ray-Ray made the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I for one wish skydiver well on his new life on the Raiders message board. I’m sure he’ll have some hot takes about how Carr is overrated and AJ should start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 53 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsMagic1 said: If only a fifth and we get hit with dead space then it does not make sense. Should have just kept him. Why and who cares about the miniscule dead space? There was a good chance he was even going to get cut. Thumbs up ? to Beane etc al.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, SoCoBills said: So we did trade with the Raiders - just not for Mack. Well we did get a 5th round pick, isn't that just as good as having a future hall of famer sack machine? Isn't it? It is, right? Tell me it is. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 15 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Is he Jack Webb's grandson? Or is he Jack Nicholson's grandson? "Just the facts". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: we did not do it last year and heck no we are not doing it this year. should be thankful we lucked into playoffs last year, us minions all. /sarcasm i think the Bills FO is trying each day to improve. while thinking long term consistency Thigh or leg. I am keeping the breast meat for me : ) leg pls, Lets save the thigh for red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: More dead dead presidents. I don't understand how this works. If he's traded, how come the new team isn't responsible for this money ? Is this signing bonus money or something ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 So I was explaining to my wife, who is not NEARLY as into the Bills as I am, that the Bills traded AJ. Although I've explained to her before who the three QBs were, she's always half paid attention then forgotten about it altogether. So I'm telling her about the trade, and for her to understand the significance, I had to retell the story of who the three QBs are. The story came out, honest to God, something like this: They traded AJ McCarron, so now the Bills have only two QBs. I chuckled. So the EXPERIENCED QB is this guy - and I began to laugh. My wife looked at me. The EXPERIENCED QB has played exactly one half of one game in the NFL, and in that - now I'm really laughing a lot - and in that one half in the NFL he threw FIVE interceptions. Now my wife is laughing, too. Their INEXPERIENCED QB is a rookie who played in the college minor leagues for a few years, the real minors, so he hasn't experienced anything even like big-time college football. If you think about it, it's pretty funny. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenWillBust Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I'm glad they didn't give up their draft future for Mack, even though he's a great player. The Bills just might have the first overall pick next season, hopefully they can get their franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, TigerJ said: I assume Beane will look for a rookie QB from among other teams' cuts to stick on the PS. Patriots have cut QB Danny Etling ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: "Just the facts". At TBD-TSW?! Ah ha ha ha! ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, 1st&ten said: I don't understand how this works. If he's traded, how come the new team isn't responsible for this money ? Is this signing bonus money or something ? Yep! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, AllenWillBust said: I'm glad they didn't give up their draft future for Mack, even though he's a great player. The Bills just might have the first overall pick next season, hopefully they can get their franchise QB. You look like you'll be a long tenured poster here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenWillBust Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, BillsEnthusiast said: You look like you'll be a long tenured poster here I'm ready for some foooootbaaawwwlll! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 57 minutes ago, Yeezus said: so when Beane trades our best players its all "he is clearing cap space" but when he makes dumb trades like this and creates more dead cap "the cap doesn't matter" pick a side for !@#$s sake Your constant negativity is old and boring. The cap hell we were in is gone next year. We got another player (5th rounder) who can contribute at least on special teams and a reserve role for a QB that was about to be (most likely) cut. Is there any positive post in your history about the team or direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: So I was explaining to my wife, who is not NEARLY as into the Bills as I am, that the Bills traded AJ. Although I've explained to her before who the three QBs were, she's always half paid attention then forgotten about it altogether. So I'm telling her about the trade, and for her to understand the significance, I had to retell the story of who the three QBs are. The story came out, honest to God, something like this: They traded AJ McCarron, so now the Bills have only two QBs. I chuckled. So the EXPERIENCED QB is this guy - and I began to laugh. My wife looked at me. The EXPERIENCED QB has played exactly one half of one game in the NFL, and in that - now I'm really laughing a lot - and in that one half in the NFL he threw FIVE interceptions. Now my wife is laughing, too. Their INEXPERIENCED QB is a rookie who played in the college minor leagues for a few years, the real minors, so he hasn't experienced anything even like big-time college football. If you think about it, it's pretty funny. Technically, Peterman played part of the Indy game and mop up in the Saints debacle. Back on track, i'm alright with the trade. You know Beenie's gonna use it to trade up another one of our picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Gene Hackman comes to mind in Enemy of the State, when he says to WIll Smith (just imagine he's saying it to McBeane): Either you're really smart or you're really stupid. Going naked with two really young QBs is the best evidence that (1) McBeane know something we don't know, (2) McBeane don't know what they're doing or (3) despite what they say, it's all about 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 50 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: More dead money and now Beane is adding dead money to next year. Does this guy know what he is doing? And again, we save money by trading him. If we keep him next year it costs $7 million. The dead cap is only $2 million. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBLESS Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Peter said: Given our offensive line, we need as many QBs as we can get our hands on. I hope we got something worth while because trading AJ is a big risk. I have very little confidence in either of QBs being able to survive the season without getting some kind of injury. Yeah, I agree. From what I've heard we got a 2019 5th rounder which gives us 10 picks next year. I also heard that AJ represents 3Mill in dead cap this year. If we end up ,[and we probably will] needing a 3rd qb for the reasons you stated, we'll have to shell out more dough. I would have rather kept AJ as a backup, and see if some teams got needy in the middle of the season due to injury to their QB. By that time maybe the o-line will have jelled a bit and we could afford to risk having only 2 qbs plus at that stage of the game we could probably do better than a 5th rd pick. I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, AllenWillBust said: I'm glad they didn't give up their draft future for Mack, even though he's a great player. The Bills just might have the first overall pick next season, hopefully they can get their franchise QB. So draft a QB every year until you get a franchise guy. Do you by any chance host a drive Time sports radio show in the Buffalo area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Fifth-year QB AJ McCarron, who played the entire preseason finale for the Bills, has been traded to the Raiders for a fifth-round draft pick, a source told ESPN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenWillBust Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Batman1876 said: So draft a QB every year until you get a franchise guy. Do you by any chance host a drive Time sports radio show in the Buffalo area? Unfortunately the Jets got the franchise QB of the draft. Better luck next year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 47 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: I think this locks Allen in as Day 1 starter. Pickpeterman showed enough to stick around for another year, but not start ahead of the 7th overall Pick at extraordinary cost I don’t see how this trade means that at all. Also, calling 20 something year old kids on the team you supposedly cheer for because you like another qb more is a bit childish, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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