Big Turk Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, DrDare said: Wow I thought Reilly was released for Streater, but we are saying Robert Foster is better than Reilly? No we are saying Brian Daboll coached him at Bama and liked him more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2018 Author Share Posted September 1, 2018 Cuts: WR Brandon Reilly (per his Twitter feed) LB Tanner Vallejo (per Ian Rapoport) OL Gerhard de Beer (per his agent, Brett Tessler) WR Corey Coleman (per Ian Rapoport) DB Dean Marlowe (per NFL Draft Diamonds) WR Cam Phillips (per Joe Buscaglia) TE Keith Towbridge (per Joe Buscaglia) C Adam Redmond (per Joe Buscaglia) FB Sam Rogers (per Joe Buscaglia) DT Albert Havili (per Joe Buscaglia) CB Breon Borders (per Joe Buscaglia) DT Tyrunn Walker (per Tom Pelissero) T Mo Porter (per Joe Buscaglia) WR Malachi Dupre (per Matthew Fairburn) Players who made the roster: WR Ray-Ray McCloud III (per NFL Draft Diamonds) QB AJ McCarron (per John Wawrow) S Siran Neal (per NFL Draft Diamonds) DE Eddie Yarbrough (per Nick Wojton) WR Robert Foster (per Matthew Fairburn) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Somebody will pick up Redmond,I'm not happy with that move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Yeezus said: Beane is a joke Why tf did he trade for Coleman just to cut him and we lost 3m and a draft pick. guy is in way over his head Um, because he was a former 1st round pick that had the speed element that was missing from the current WR group and he had a chance to get him for a song? Seriously, what are the chances that a 2019 7th round pick is what makes the difference for this team? Coleman, had he panned out here, could have been a difference maker. That's smart GMing. It's the same reason that a team like NE deals a pick for Kony Ealy--you take chances on talented players when the price is low. This is a concept called "buying low". Look it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, DrDare said: Wow I thought Reilly was released for Streater, but we are saying Robert Foster is better than Reilly? Speed kills. Foster is a rookie, so obviously they think they can develop him into a better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Somebody will pick up Redmond,I'm not happy with that move. Agreed. I think he should have won the backup C job and then we slide one of Groy or Bodine to G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Foster is good at getting separation, he just doesn’t seem good at completing the play. If you can’t track the ball and actually catch it, they don’t even have to cover you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Um, because he was a former 1st round pick that had the speed element that was missing from the current WR group and he had a chance to get him for a song? Seriously, what are the chances that a 2019 7th round pick is what makes the difference for this team? Coleman, had he panned out here, could have been a difference maker. That's smart GMing. It's the same reason that a team like NE deals a pick for Kony Ealy--you take chances on talented players when the price is low. This is a concept called "buying low". Look it up. Dude, you realize this is Yeezus you are responding to right? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I'll bet that the Patriots pick up Reilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Watkins90 said: Speed kills. Foster is a rookie, so obviously they think they can develop him into a better player. If he learns how to track the ball and doesn't quit on his routes, he could be good. Skill set (speed) might make for a good complimentary receiver to Allens long ball. At least the Bills have some speed on receiving crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Um, because he was a former 1st round pick that had the speed element that was missing from the current WR group and he had a chance to get him for a song? Seriously, what are the chances that a 2019 7th round pick is what makes the difference for this team? Coleman, had he panned out here, could have been a difference maker. That's smart GMing. It's the same reason that a team like NE deals a pick for Kony Ealy--you take chances on talented players when the price is low. This is a concept called "buying low". Look it up. It was a bad move but hardly career defining. If Allen ultimately busts, that would be a disaster for him. Bills carry the most dead cap this year and second most space under cap next year. We all knew this would be a tough season for talent. Next year they can add 4 too taents plus draft. Much different 2019 talent discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Skydiver wins! Wow that is the surprise of the day. I'm going to guess that Daboll had a lot of say on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thebandit27 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Dude, you realize this is Yeezus you are responding to right? ? Every now and then he needs a smackdown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DJB said: Agreed. I think he should have won the backup C job and then we slide one of Groy or Bodine to G. I'm pretty sure Bodine has never played guard. Edited September 1, 2018 by ColoradoBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Foster is good at getting separation, he just doesn’t seem good at completing the play. If you can’t track the ball and actually catch it, they don’t even have to cover you Surely true. They obviously think he can learn to track it. Getting separation is probably harder to learn. He may be the only WR on the entire team that gets separation. KB is very good but he doesn't. Kerley used to and he is serviceable but he really doesn't at this stage. Zay is so so although he surely has potential to become a guy who gets it. Holmes doesn't. Ray Ray Ray is a rook. That could be reason alone to keep him. He gets open. He's fast. He has skills. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 If you are keeping Foster, do we really need Holmes? Not that we really need him anyway. I just don’t see the point in keeping more then the minimum here. Everyone outside of KB and Kurley stink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, QuoteTheRaven83 said: I'll bet that the Patriots pick up Reilly Interesting. Haven't heard that before. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Getty Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: If you are keeping Foster, do we really need Holmes? Not that we really need him anyway. I just don’t see the point in keeping more then the minimum here. Everyone outside of KB and Kurley stink. Correction, Kerley stinks too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: If you are keeping Foster, do we really need Holmes? Not that we really need him anyway. I just don’t see the point in keeping more then the minimum here. Everyone outside of KB and Kurley stink. They only keep Holmes as a gunner on ST not for WR. I don't think that's reason enough but they do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, Juice_32 said: Foster did get really good separation on deep balls. We've got to have at least one deep threat. Yeah I guess even if he can't track the ball he's still going to scare DCs enough that they have to keep an eye on him. I doubt we see him much this year but I'll take him over Kaelin Clay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I just do not get the Foster sticking. Then again this regime does have a tendency to lean on those that they know. To me Foster was outplayed a lot this Preseason and at best should be on the PS. Maybe he will when waiver claims start happening. No matter what happens today those that are 43-53 on the roster need to keep their bags packed initially. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, Wayne Arnold said: Interesting. Haven't heard that before. Interesting cuz it's true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 They're mostly going with the younger guys. Foster, Neal, McCloud, Wallace, even Cam Phillilps over Reilly on the PS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Estelle Getty said: Correction, Kerley stinks too. I don’t agree with that. I think he’s probably the 2nd best guy we have and when the games count for real, people will see that. He was good in SF and misused in NY. Kurley would be an 80 catch 900 yd guy in the right system with an accurate QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 18 minutes ago, Juice_32 said: Foster did get really good separation on deep balls. We've got to have at least one deep threat. It would be better to have a guy that can catch the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: If you are keeping Foster, do we really need Holmes? Not that we really need him anyway. I just don’t see the point in keeping more then the minimum here. Everyone outside of KB and Kurley stink. You keep holmes because he is your special team gunner. Foster did not play much on special teams. You let Holmes go if you feel you have someone tat can pick up that slack on special teams - if not he sticks around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I don’t agree with that. I think he’s probably the 2nd best guy we have and when the games count for real, people will see that. He was good in SF and misused in NY. Kurley would be an 80 catch 900 yd guy in the right system with an accurate QB. Agreed. He was actually pretty good on the Jets, too. My only worry was if he still has the legs to play and get open. I'm not sure either way. If he does he's a pretty good slot WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 20 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: I was at work. First thing i did was look behind me to see if anyone noticed. Thank gosh no one was near me! That would have been hard to explain : )) Have not taken that bait in years.. Perfect timing well executed throw. Thanks for the good laugh HOF : ) dammit clicked it again !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Rochesterfan said: You keep holmes because he is your special team gunner. Foster did not play much on special teams. You let Holmes go if you feel you have someone tat can pick up that slack on special teams - if not he sticks around. We are probably going to punt a good amount this year. I understand valuing special teams but with very few KO going to be returned against the Bills because Hauschka has a good leg, is the second best gunner really going to be that much worse when PR for all teams are rarely more than 10 yards per? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, thurst44 said: Most 7th rounders don't make the team Would love to see the numbers on that. Long term you're probably correct but In would highly doubt "most" 7th round picks are cut in their first year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Would love to see the numbers on that. Long term you're probably correct but In would highly doubt "most" 7th round picks are cut in their first year. I would bet a majority of them are and then signed to practice squads. You are a bubble player the minute you're drafted especially since undrafted rookies are brought in immediately. When you draft someone in the fifth to seventh round you are basically saying, we want to guarantee ourselves a chance to see this kid in practice rather than hoping he signs with you after the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 4 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: But the Patriots..... Reilly and Prohl on their way as we speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Estelle Getty Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Would love to see the numbers on that. Long term you're probably correct but In would highly doubt "most" 7th round picks are cut in their first year. I would say they probably are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 There is virtually no difference between a 7th round pick and a lot of UDFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: We are probably going to punt a good amount this year. I understand valuing special teams but with very few KO going to be returned against the Bills because Hauschka has a good leg, is the second best gunner really going to be that much worse when PR for all teams are rarely more than 10 yards per? I don’t know - it depends upon what they have seen in practice. I think as the winds pick up and it gets colder - there will be more returns of kick-offs this year. It also depends upon what punter they are keeping and the punting plan. Colton seems to be a more directional kicker lacking some of the length - especially lately. If they keep him and punt to the sidelines - then gunner is less important, but if they are going for distance with hang time then the Gunner might be critical to getting a fair catch. Myfeeling is when you are looking at the bottom of the roster a guy that is good at special teams and can help out WR is better than a good WR that is not as good at ST. Holmes or another Gunner will get significantly more plays on special teams than they will at WR for the year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Would love to see the numbers on that. Long term you're probably correct but In would highly doubt "most" 7th round picks are cut in their first year. Fair enough as that's the sort of imprecision and absolutism I advise student writers to avoid . I'd guess about 60% make the team the first year, but that's a total semi-educated guest. I meant that most of them never make any significant impact. If we would be able to choose a recent 1st rounder who has shown flashes or, say, a player who already has a touchdown in the NFL (K. Clay), it would probably be a much more attractive pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Agreed. He was actually pretty good on the Jets, too. My only worry was if he still has the legs to play and get open. I'm not sure either way. If he does he's a pretty good slot WR. He was a reliable 3rd down possession, move the sticks type of receiver who knew how to get open in tight windows and find holes in the zones Edited September 1, 2018 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, matter2003 said: He was a reliable 3rd down possession, move the sticks type of receiver who knew how to get open in tight windows and find holes in the zones Yup. A very valuable commodity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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