Virgil Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 With our relative lack of depth and quality in certain positions, and now that we can’t stash any of our guys on the practice squad, as well as the inability to give Allen any reps if kept as a 3rd stringer.... Is it far fetched to think that either of the other guys don’t make the team? Correct me if I’m wrong, but it was a struggle for a few games last year to field a roster with more than 2 QB’s active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I dont think we need to. I think all three make the team just because none of them are truly standing out. Allen has been high and low and probably needs some time to learn and grow. McCarron is meh and Peterman is still debating on which team to throw to. I bet all three start at least one game this year. McCarron will start most of them 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I think it is idiotic to keep less than 3 QBs on a roster. It's the most important position. What happens if a QB gets hurt? Do you start second string and find a good QB midseason on the waiver wire? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Yes, keep all 3. Kick off rules are different this year so that might mean fewer specialists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Nathan Peterman. Ye old clipboard holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: I dont think we need to. I think all three make the team just because none of them are truly standing out. Allen has been high and low and probably needs some time to learn and grow. McCarron is meh and Peterman is still debating on which team to throw to. I bet all three start at least one game this year. McCarron will start most of them Peterman is eligible for the Practice Squad but would have to clear waivers first. But yeah, I don't see how they only go into the season with only Allen and McCarron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Trade McCarron for a Mid round pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 You keep all three. McCarron starts, Allen sits and learns, Peterman is there in case of emergency/injury... Peterman's contract is negligible... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 2 on active, 1 on practice squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 14 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: I dont think we need to. I think all three make the team just because none of them are truly standing out. Allen has been high and low and probably needs some time to learn and grow. McCarron is meh and Peterman is still debating on which team to throw to. I bet all three start at least one game this year. McCarron will start most of them Agree with most of this except the part about AJ starting most games this season. No way. Allen will be the man and very possibly from Game 1. Just a question of whether or not he is truly unable to start Game 1 b/c he is too much of a tire fire at that point in time. If he can go, he'll go, and when the other QB options fail early, Allen will go then. 1 minute ago, DefenseWins said: You keep all three. McCarron starts, Allen sits and learns, Peterman is there in case of emergency/injury... Peterman's contract is negligible... Yeah but "sitting and learning" is a myth. No QB develops while "sitting and learning". He will learn by doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 3 QBs means we can likely only carry one kicker and/or 2 full backs. It could really change the makeup of this team. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, wppete said: Trade McCarron for a Mid round pick. I wouldn't be surprised to see AJMC shipped to Indy if Luck still isn't ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 QBs are getting sacked on 15% of dropbacks. Let's hope we still have 3 on hand when the season starts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: 3 QBs means we can likely only carry one kicker and/or 2 full backs. It could really change the makeup of this team. Do we really need 2 fullbacks ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP's Voice Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Just now, 1st&ten said: Do we really need 2 fullbacks ?? Yes - two at minimum. We likely need another LS too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 1 minute ago, JP's Voice said: Yes - two at minimum. We likely need another LS too. I really hope your being Sarcastic !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 29 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: 3 QBs means we can likely only carry one kicker and/or 2 full backs. It could really change the makeup of this team. If we don't carry a kickoff specialist I am so #$%^@& done with this team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 39 minutes ago, Pete said: I think it is idiotic to keep less than 3 QBs on a roster. It's the most important position. What happens if a QB gets hurt? Do you start second string and find a good QB midseason on the waiver wire? I’d typically agree with this, but not this year, not this group. 2 pedestrian young vets and a showcase colt. Dump a pedestrian, add another whatever. If McCarron goes down, there are plenty of Peterman/McCarron’s pushing shopping carts in the store out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, 1st&ten said: Do we really need 2 fullbacks ?? I don't think so imo. I think we should carry 3 qbs and put Zay on pup for September and also carry at least 7 wrs. That will give us a month to see how things shake out at both positions. Edited August 2, 2018 by billsredneck1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Kinda makes you wonder why TT isn’t starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 57 minutes ago, Pete said: I think it is idiotic to keep less than 3 QBs on a roster. It's the most important position. What happens if a QB gets hurt? Do you start second string and find a good QB midseason on the waiver wire? fewer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 46 minutes ago, jr1 said: 2 on active, 1 on practice squad ...yup.....only one realistically is Peterman......if a poacher grabs him, he has to go to the poacher's active 53 which is probably a stretch......could be an interesting and potential chess match for McBeane....say a serious QB injury occurred elsewhere and the team desperately needed a backup....may be possible that Peterman is a target......does he let him get poached for nothing in return?...OR....does he activate him and call the team trying to work a trade deal (Peterman or perhaps McCarron) for a pick?.....he releases someone and then re-signs the release after the trade.......certainly a hypothetical, but guess it could be possible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said: I dont think we need to. I think all three make the team just because none of them are truly standing out. Allen has been high and low and probably needs some time to learn and grow. McCarron is meh and Peterman is still debating on which team to throw to. I bet all three start at least one game this year. McCarron will start most of them Exactly, I think around 14 teams last year kept 3 guys so its likely we'll do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 McDermott values versatility and a lot of players on the squad have some flexibility to play another position... Not sure that reserves/depth will be an issue... I'm more worried about some of the starters... I think they will go with 3 QB's at least until Allen takes over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Fadingpain said: Agree with most of this except the part about AJ starting most games this season. No way. Allen will be the man and very possibly from Game 1. Just a question of whether or not he is truly unable to start Game 1 b/c he is too much of a tire fire at that point in time. If he can go, he'll go, and when the other QB options fail early, Allen will go then. Yeah but "sitting and learning" is a myth. No QB develops while "sitting and learning". He will learn by doing. You might be right about allen but the real question is, how bad is our OL. I wouldn’t put him I. There if the defenses are running free at our QB. That could be the case this season gents. Our defense is currently doing it bs our offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: You might be right about allen but the real question is, how bad is our OL. I wouldn’t put him I. There if the defenses are running free at our QB. That could be the case this season gents. Our defense is currently doing it bs our offense ...certainly would be a serious and untested concern.....doubt they subject their (hopefully) future franchise QB to "target practice"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Pete said: What happens if a QB gets hurt? Answer: Eddie Rutkowski. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Just now, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Answer: Eddie Rutkowski. ...AARP discount??......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 26 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: fewer Thank you. That is my pet hate. I think all 3 make the 53. I think at some point in year when they need a spot to cover a short term injury Peterman gets cut. I think he signs on a PS elsewhere and sticks there through camp next year, is dumped again at cut downs and that is the last the NFL sees or hears from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Pete said: I think it is idiotic to keep less than 3 QBs on a roster. It's the most important position. What happens if a QB gets hurt? Do you start second string and find a good QB midseason on the waiver wire? It's not idiotic if the 3rd stringer is on the practice squad. Peterman is an ideal candidate for that. It also isn't idiotic if your 3rd guy in camp isn't good enough to ever trust in a real game. If you find out in camp you only have 2 NFL caliber QBs on your team, you don't keep the 3rd guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...certainly would be a serious and untested concern.....doubt they subject their (hopefully) future franchise QB to "target practice"..... Big concern. No OL. No WRs. I stick by premise that he should sit all year. Earliest I’d start him is vs the colts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Just now, Albany,n.y. said: It's not idiotic if the 3rd stringer is on the practice squad. Peterman is an ideal candidate for that. It also isn't idiotic if your 3rd guy in camp isn't good enough to ever trust in a real game. If you find out in camp you only have 2 NFL caliber QBs on your team, you don't keep the 3rd guy. And there are serviceable vets like Anderson and Moore sitting out there. They are both better than Nathan Peterman will ever be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, NewEra said: Big concern. No OL. No WRs. I stick by premise that he should sit all year. Earliest I’d start him is vs the colts ...NO and NO are quantum leaps.....we hardly do NOT know what we have at this early juncture......BUT...in the coming weeks ahead, hopefully the picture becomes clearer but the OL/WR white flag is "far from flyin'" IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in NoCal Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 54 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: I’d typically agree with this, but not this year, not this group. 2 pedestrian young vets and a showcase colt. Dump a pedestrian, add another whatever. If McCarron goes down, there are plenty of Peterman/McCarron’s pushing shopping carts in the store out there. I think you're wrong. But then again, you're pretty new around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Frankly, I think that McDermott is a smart coach. Last year he DID end up having to field a 3rd stringer because Tyrod was out and Peterman sustained a concussion during the Colts game. I don't think he will want to get caught with his proverbial pants down this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I’ve been saying that they may only keep 2 QBs for 6 months. It doesn’t look so crazy now. McCarron & Allen with Peterman on the practice squad. I’d only keep 2 but I suspect that they will keep 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Virgil said: With our relative lack of depth and quality in certain positions, and now that we can’t stash any of our guys on the practice squad, as well as the inability to give Allen any reps if kept as a 3rd stringer.... Is it far fetched to think that either of the other guys don’t make the team? Correct me if I’m wrong, but it was a struggle for a few games last year to field a roster with more than 2 QB’s active. ?we can't stash AJM or Allen, but why not Peterman? Our coaches may see him as promising, but the league as a whole isn't lining up to snipe up a 5th round pick who set a record for INTs in a half last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...NO and NO are quantum leaps.....we hardly do NOT know what we have at this early juncture......BUT...in the coming weeks ahead, hopefully the picture becomes clearer but the OL/WR white flag is "far from flyin'" IMO... Just a matter of time imo. Hope I’m wrong, especially with the OL. LG and C (especially if Bodine beatable out groy) is going to get torn up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, cd1 said: Frankly, I think that McDermott is a smart coach. Last year he DID end up having to field a 3rd stringer because Tyrod was out and Peterman sustained a concussion during the Colts game. I don't think he will want to get caught with his proverbial pants down this year. But wasn’t it Webb and he served a dual purpose? Also, I think we had to do some weird roster work to keep it that way. That’s the reason I’m asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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