Seanbillsfan2206 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 hour ago, BurpleBull said: Nathan Peterman will win the starting QB position barring injury. He'll be much improved from last season. Excited about Josh Allen as the starting QB, but Peterman is the guy people aren't talking about right now who will have everyone talking by the end of training camp. He's worked on his mechanics, is said to have added velocity to his throws, has a lot to prove and is no stranger to struggling early in his career and picking himself up. A little talked about fact concerning Peterman is that he's right up there with Allen as Bills QB's who've scored high on the Wonderlic test for those who equate the test to mental sharpness. I still hold to the belief that Peterman was at the very least a third round prospect in his draft class. Peterman will be the guy. So this is how I have it panning out... 1. Peterman 2. McCarron 3. Allen With Allen at three for his protection as he starts out his young career. “Hey guys, I don’t get any attention at home. Please respond to my post”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Captain Murica said: Thank god someone else sees it. It's a backwards way of thinking, and continues to happen. Must be genetic and continues to hop from generation to generation. I just don’t get it. How could a reasonable person look at Nate Peterman and think, “this guy has got it?” The rest of the country laughed at us when we started him. It was worse than they expected. Everyone with a brain knew it would fail but Bills fans thought it was a good idea and everyone else was dumb. 99 times out of 100 the objective outsiders are right and the emotionally charged super fans aren’t. Peterman should be fighting for a roster spot not a starting job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 it's a prediction, not a crucifixion 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: I just don’t get it. How could a reasonable person look at Nate Peterman and think, “this guy has got it?” The rest of the country laughed at us when we started him. It was worse than they expected. Everyone with a brain knew it would fail but Bills fans thought it was a good idea and everyone else was dumb. 99 times out of 100 the objective outsiders are right and the emotionally charged super fans aren’t. Peterman should be fighting for a roster spot not a starting job. Hey! Not every Bills' fan thought it was a good idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 What in the holy hell is going on around here!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Just now, Sweats said: What in the holy hell is going on around here!!!! Detox "Sweats" ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: The love for Peterman reminds me of the Jeff Tuel era. (Maybe “era” is the wrong word...) I think you meant err and not era. Edited May 21, 2018 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: The love for Peterman reminds me of the Jeff Tuel era. (Maybe “era” is the wrong word...) Moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I think some of the fans who did not want Allen are hoping that a 5th round pick will play better than him and prove they were right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Augie said: Moment? Error is more like it. With a 1st round QB they need to develop, there's not much point wasting time with Peterman with such limited snaps available in OTAs, minicamp, and TC at SJF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Why do people believe in Peterman? It’s an honest question? He was historically bad and was a 5th round pick for a reason. People hated Fitz, Orton, and Tyrod who were all decent and swear by Peterman. It is so strange. We are the only fan base in the world that prefers scrubs to decent. That is unique to Bills fans. Every Bills QB gets 2 years in my book, no matter what. If they look halfway decent in those years they get a 3rd. Obviously Peterman is closer to busting than not, but QBs can and do get a lot better after a season of experience. And he wouldn't be the first QB ever to throw 5 picks in a game and still have a good career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Just now, HappyDays said: Every Bills QB gets 2 years in my book, no matter what. If they look halfway decent in those years they get a 3rd. Obviously Peterman is closer to busting than not, but QBs can and do get a lot better after a season of experience. And he wouldn't be the first QB ever to throw 5 picks in a game and still have a good career. Were any of them 5th round flyer prospects who had such inauspicious debuts? He didn't look much better in subsequent appearances to my eye with the playoff relief performance being the last memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 hour ago, BurpleBull said: Nathan Peterman will win the starting QB position barring injury. He'll be much improved from last season. Excited about Josh Allen as the starting QB, but Peterman is the guy people aren't talking about right now who will have everyone talking by the end of training camp. He's worked on his mechanics, is said to have added velocity to his throws, has a lot to prove and is no stranger to struggling early in his career and picking himself up. A little talked about fact concerning Peterman is that he's right up there with Allen as Bills QB's who've scored high on the Wonderlic test for those who equate the test to mental sharpness. I still hold to the belief that Peterman was at the very least a third round prospect in his draft class. Peterman will be the guy. So this is how I have it panning out... 1. Peterman 2. McCarron 3. Allen With Allen at three for his protection as he starts out his young career. Another newbie wanting his minute of TBD fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 hour ago, BurpleBull said: Nathan Peterman will win the starting QB position barring injury. He'll be much improved from last season. Excited about Josh Allen as the starting QB, but Peterman is the guy people aren't talking about right now who will have everyone talking by the end of training camp. He's worked on his mechanics, is said to have added velocity to his throws, has a lot to prove and is no stranger to struggling early in his career and picking himself up. A little talked about fact concerning Peterman is that he's right up there with Allen as Bills QB's who've scored high on the Wonderlic test for those who equate the test to mental sharpness. I still hold to the belief that Peterman was at the very least a third round prospect in his draft class. Peterman will be the guy. So this is how I have it panning out... 1. Peterman 2. McCarron 3. Allen With Allen at three for his protection as he starts out his young career. Wouldn't simply just asking for attention be easier? You woulda had to type a whole lot less.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Every Bills QB gets 2 years in my book, no matter what. If they look halfway decent in those years they get a 3rd. Obviously Peterman is closer to busting than not, but QBs can and do get a lot better after a season of experience. And he wouldn't be the first QB ever to throw 5 picks in a game and still have a good career. He would be the 1st guy to throw 5 INT in his first half of football to go on to have a good career. Come to think of it, he would be the 1st guy to throw 5 INT in his first half of football to go on to have a bad career too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 56 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Good luck with that Nate. Let's start with completing 50% of your passes and work up from there... Isn't he over 50% if you include the passes completed to the other team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I predict that Gergard DeBeer will be a starting offensive lineman before Nate Peterman starts another game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 then why draft Allen? you drafted peterman who's now done all of this improving to what? use him as a stop-gap for the two years it's going to take to ramp up Allen? clearly the coaches don't see enough out of him to trust that he's the future of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Put down the Gin Peterman. Your mom doesn’t even have that much faith in you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I just don’t get it. How could a reasonable person look at Nate Peterman and think, “this guy has got it?” The rest of the country laughed at us when we started him. It was worse than they expected. Everyone with a brain knew it would fail but Bills fans thought it was a good idea and everyone else was dumb. 99 times out of 100 the objective outsiders are right and the emotionally charged super fans aren’t. Peterman should be fighting for a roster spot not a starting job. Well I agree that Peterman should have sat on the bench for the whole year. All year long fans were clamoring for him to start. I thought he needed a year to work on arm strength. I blame the coaches for his first game. No rookie in their first half of football should throw 5 picks. That's on the coaches for not preparing him to be the starter, for not evaluating his ability to be the starter, and for not designing a simple game plan that made sense for his abilities. A total failure. And I'm worried they're making the same mistake with Allen to be honest. I guess I trust Daboll more than I trusted Dennison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg1029 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 36 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Why do people believe in Peterman? It’s an honest question? He was historically bad and was a 5th round pick for a reason. People hated Fitz, Orton, and Tyrod who were all decent and swear by Peterman. It is so strange. We are the only fan base in the world that prefers scrubs to decent. That is unique to Bills fans. This is what happens after 3 years of Tyrod. Anyone that actually gets rid of the ball in a timely fashion is promoted to savior status Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Hopefully he throws to our guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Just now, berg1029 said: This is what happens after 3 years of Tyrod. Anyone that actually gets rid of the ball in a timely fashion is promoted to savior status Getting rid of the ball on time to the other team is no improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Well I agree that Peterman should have sat on the bench for the whole year. All year long fans were clamoring for him to start. I thought he needed a year to work on arm strength. I blame the coaches for his first game. No rookie in their first half of football should throw 5 picks. That's on the coaches for not preparing him to be the starter, for not evaluating his ability to be the starter, and for not designing a simple game plan that made sense for his abilities. A total failure. And I'm worried they're making the same mistake with Allen to be honest. I guess I trust Daboll more than I trusted Dennison. I definitely trust Daboll more than Dennison. At the same time the guy that threw 5 INts in a half deserves his share of the blame for those 5 INTs. I agree that he shouldn’t have been out there but he is accountable for his performance when he is. 6 minutes ago, berg1029 said: This is what happens after 3 years of Tyrod. Anyone that actually gets rid of the ball in a timely fashion is promoted to savior status And it was an epic failure!! Replacing a decent game manager with a 5th round scrub is a massive mistake. Every objective football guy saw this prior to starting him. Bills fans were the only ones dumb enough to not see it. It was a massive mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Peterman and McCarran will be lucky to get through camp without being thoroughly demoralized by the arm talent of Josh Allen. They’ve never seen that kind of arm up close before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Josh and Lamar should be the starters for their teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 A very open minded crowd on here. yeah and the new guy is a frencheyes. get a grip. we got 3 crap QBs most likely. Bring it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I definitely trust Daboll more than Dennison. At the same time the guy that threw 5 INts in a half deserves his share of the blame for those 5 INTs. I agree that he shouldn’t have been out there but he is accountable for his performance when he is. And it was an epic failure!! Replacing a decent game manager with a 5th round scrub is a massive mistake. Every objective football guy saw this prior to starting him. Bills fans were the only ones dumb enough to not see it. It was a massive mistake. It was a very bad decision and I hope that McDermott learned from it. Peterman should of never started that game. I was in the group that believed as bad as TT was playing during the stretch he should of still started but been put on a shorter and shorter leash. Peterman did well the week before against NO and he may have been better in relief of TT (if it was necessary) in the LAC game. The thing that I wonder about is.............does having a very poor performance like Peterman did against LAC affect his development/career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 The Bills think so highly of Peterman that they did everything they could to move up in the draft to get a QB of the future who isn't named Nathan Peterman. Last year I went to 1 road game-in LA vs the Chargers. Peterman ruined that game for me. This year my 1 road game is in Baltimore. The last thing I need to see is Peterman starting & ruining another road game for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: It was a very bad decision and I hope that McDermott learned from it. Peterman should of never started that game. I was in the group that believed as bad as TT was playing during the stretch he should of still started but been put on a shorter and shorter leash. Peterman did well the week before against NO and he may have been better in relief of TT (if it was necessary) in the LAC game. The thing that I wonder about is.............does having a very poor performance like Peterman did against LAC affect his development/career? There was no reason to make any judgment regarding his readiness after leading the team to a TD down 47-3. The Saints couldn't have cared any less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 One of the things that makes the NFL interesting is that it's not entirely predictable. Every year there's at least one surprise team and one surprise player. I'd be unimaginably thrilled if Peterman won the starting job and took us deep into the playoffs. I admit that possibility. I think it's far more likely that he doesn't take any regular season snaps at all. I think AJ starts the season and Allen finishes it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: One of the things that makes the NFL interesting is that it's not entirely predictable. Every year there's at least one surprise team and one surprise player. I'd be unimaginably thrilled if Peterman won the starting job and took us deep into the playoffs. I admit that possibility. I think it's far more likely that he doesn't take any regular season snaps at all. I think AJ starts the season and Allen finishes it. yes. the surprise was last year. get ready to cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: There was no reason to make any judgment regarding his readiness after leading the team to a TD down 47-3. The Saints couldn't have cared any less. You are totally missing my point. Of course, he came in after TT lost the game but he got good experience. It is one way to ease an inexperienced player into the NFL. He was the only positive to a horrible game. I am no Nate Peterman "homer" at all, but I think he was not handled well last year. This is one reason I question some who believe that the "stats" of this year's preseason games will mean much at all. It may come to pass that fans will be "clamoring" to start Allen (maybe way before he is ready) because he did well in the 2nd half of a couple of preseason games. Remember, the coaches probably want to have their decision by the start of the 3rd preseason game dress rehearsal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Why do people believe in Peterman? It’s an honest question? He was historically bad and was a 5th round pick for a reason. People hated Fitz, Orton, and Tyrod who were all decent and swear by Peterman. It is so strange. We are the only fan base in the world that prefers scrubs to decent. That is unique to Bills fans. Parallel question : Why do so many people gush over how smart NP is? From intentional grounding, to diving head-first into a concussion, to throwing wounded ducks off the back foot while falling away, the man has probably made more bone-headed plays per play than anyone in living memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Why do people believe in Peterman? It’s an honest question? He was historically bad and was a 5th round pick for a reason. People hated Fitz, Orton, and Tyrod who were all decent and swear by Peterman. It is so strange. We are the only fan base in the world that prefers scrubs to decent. That is unique to Bills fans. For the same reason fans think Allen sucks because they watched film - eh hem, cough, youtube videos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: You are totally missing my point. Of course, he came in after TT lost the game but he got good experience. It is one way to ease an inexperienced player into the NFL. He was the only positive to a horrible game. I am no Nate Peterman "homer" at all, but I think he was not handled well last year. This is one reason I question some who believe that the "stats" of this year's preseason games will mean much at all. It may come to pass that fans will be "clamoring" to start Allen (maybe way before he is ready) because he did well in the 2nd half of a couple of preseason games. Remember, the coaches probably want to have their decision by the start of the 3rd preseason game dress rehearsal. I’m just not of the belief that NP is a part of the decision. Allen is playing as soon as the Bills think he’s ready. That’s the worst kept secret. McCarron is here to be the placeholder and a backup. He can handle that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) I doubt Allen would be #3. The #3 QB won't be getting the kind of practice time and reps in the Bills system that he needs to develop. If Peterman beats out McCarron and Allen, which I doubt, then McCarron will be the #3 IMO. Edited May 22, 2018 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: You are totally missing my point. Of course, he came in after TT lost the game but he got good experience. It is one way to ease an inexperienced player into the NFL. He was the only positive to a horrible game. I am no Nate Peterman "homer" at all, but I think he was not handled well last year. This is one reason I question some who believe that the "stats" of this year's preseason games will mean much at all. It may come to pass that fans will be "clamoring" to start Allen (maybe way before he is ready) because he did well in the 2nd half of a couple of preseason games. Remember, the coaches probably want to have their decision by the start of the 3rd preseason game dress rehearsal. Looking at preseason stats to make a determination on Allen would be the same idiocy I saw on TSW last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: I’m just not of the belief that NP is a part of the decision. Allen is playing as soon as the Bills think he’s ready. That’s the worst kept secret. McCarron is here to be the placeholder and a backup. He can handle that role. Neither am I Kirby. It seems to me Peterman will be #3 this year and we don't even know if 3 QBs we be kept. Thus, my early post about Peterman going to PS and only to be called back up if an injury happens. My concern was how they handled him and my hope that they do a better job with Josh Allen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said: The love for Peterman reminds me of the Jeff Tuel era. (Maybe “era” is the wrong word...) One pass ruined poor Jeff Tuel's career. Oh, what might have been . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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