HappyDays Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I am no Nate Peterman "homer" at all, but I think he was not handled well last year. Yup. And I think it's a big reason why Dennison was fired. If they thought Peterman had no chance of making the team they wouldn't have waited until every QB signed to get McCarron. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: Good that NFL betting is legalized so you can make your bet at 500-1 odds. Like the Vegas Golden Knights were? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenigmusx Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Yup. And I think it's a big reason why Dennison was fired. If they thought Peterman had no chance of making the team they wouldn't have waited until every QB signed to get McCarron. It's funny how polarized the opinions of Nate Dogg are. I actually think he has potential to be a Fitzpatrick type QB. Could he win the gig for a year? I think for sure he has that potential. When Josh Allen hits his stride though he will be the Bills QB for a long time. His talent level is just so much higher than these other QB's. Elite QB athleticism doesn't even do him justice. He is finally our replacement for Kelly. We just need to develop him correctly. Where is the USFL when you need it? Edited May 22, 2018 by Lenigmusx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Lenigmusx said: It's funny how polarized the opinions of Nate Dogg are. I actually think he has potential to be a Fitzpatrick type QB. Could he win the gig for a year? I think for sure he has that potential. When Josh Allen hits his stride though he will be the Bills QB for a long time. His talent level is just so much higher than these other QB's. Elite QB athleticism doesn't even do him justice. He is finally our replacement for Kelly. We just need to develop him correctly. Where is the USFL when you need it? There is always a chance he could. Seems to me more likely that McDermott and Beane would want to know if Peterman can become the long term backup to Allen in the way of Frank Reich. If Josh Allen is starting in 2019 then McCarron no doubt would want to be traded. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, SouthNYfan said: Isn't he over 50% if you include the passes completed to the other team? Yes, in fact I believe he's over 60% if you count those 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I've stated here many times that I'm a Peterman fan. While I dont know if he's ready to be the starter, I do think he's gonna impress people this year. He's the only qb we have that has any experience with our current offense. McCarron might be good, he also might be terrible. As crazy as it sounds, Peterman is the most proven qb we have on our roster currently. Yes, 5 interceptions I know, but let's let by gones be by gones. Either way, I just want the best qb starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Steptide said: I've stated here many times that I'm a Peterman fan. While I dont know if he's ready to be the starter, I do think he's gonna impress people this year. He's the only qb we have that has any experience with our current offense. McCarron might be good, he also might be terrible. As crazy as it sounds, Peterman is the most proven qb we have on our roster currently. Yes, 5 interceptions I know, but let's let by gones be by gones. Either way, I just want the best qb starting It's a new offense under Daboll, so he simply doesn't as a matter of fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenigmusx Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: There is always a chance he could. Seems to me more likely that McDermott and Beane would want to know if Peterman can become the long term backup to Allen in the way of Frank Reich. If Josh Allen is starting in 2019 then McCarron no doubt would want to be traded. I can get on board with him being like Frank Reich. Just as long as he is not Joe Dufek lmao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, BurpleBull said: Nathan Peterman will win the starting QB position barring injury. He'll be much improved from last season. Excited about Josh Allen as the starting QB, but Peterman is the guy people aren't talking about right now who will have everyone talking by the end of training camp. He's worked on his mechanics, is said to have added velocity to his throws, has a lot to prove and is no stranger to struggling early in his career and picking himself up. A little talked about fact concerning Peterman is that he's right up there with Allen as Bills QB's who've scored high on the Wonderlic test for those who equate the test to mental sharpness. I still hold to the belief that Peterman was at the very least a third round prospect in his draft class. Peterman will be the guy. So this is how I have it panning out... 1. Peterman 2. McCarron 3. Allen With Allen at three for his protection as he starts out his young career. No way he beats out Mccarron imo...I like Peterman and not a huge Allen fan but of course as a Bills fan he will have my full support. But I believe Mccarron will lockthe starting job down unless McDermott says !@#$ it and goes with Allen...i do not believe Peterman will out perform Mccarron though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: “Hey guys, I don’t get any attention at home. Please respond to my post”. Wow. I'm not seeing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, BurpleBull said: Nathan Peterman will win the starting QB position barring injury. He'll be much improved from last season. Excited about Josh Allen as the starting QB, but Peterman is the guy people aren't talking about right now who will have everyone talking by the end of training camp. He's worked on his mechanics, is said to have added velocity to his throws, has a lot to prove and is no stranger to struggling early in his career and picking himself up. A little talked about fact concerning Peterman is that he's right up there with Allen as Bills QB's who've scored high on the Wonderlic test for those who equate the test to mental sharpness. I still hold to the belief that Peterman was at the very least a third round prospect in his draft class. Peterman will be the guy. So this is how I have it panning out... 1. Peterman 2. McCarron 3. Allen With Allen at three for his protection as he starts out his young career. Why would they tank this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Lenigmusx said: I can get on board with him being like Frank Reich. Just as long as he is not Joe Dufek lmao Joe Dufek LOL. Luckily I blocked out all of 1984 Buffalo Bills football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, keepthefaith said: It'll be tough for Nate to beat AJ for the starting job unless AJ gets hurt IMO, but I do think Nate will be a starter in the league at some point in his career, not likely in Buffalo though. Obviously the SD game last year will be hard to overcome in the minds of many including the coaches. He'll have to have some period of sustained improvement before people will have confidence in him and if you don't play it's hard to demonstrate that, but I think he'll get his chance somewhere at some point. Josh waiting a year is not a bad thing. I don't think that game weighs as heavily for coaches as it does fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Why do people believe in Peterman? It’s an honest question? He was historically bad and was a 5th round pick for a reason. People hated Fitz, Orton, and Tyrod who were all decent and swear by Peterman. It is so strange. We are the only fan base in the world that prefers scrubs to decent. That is unique to Bills fans. It's not that I believe in Peterman, but I think McD genuinely does. I don't understand why but we also gave carries to Tolbert. McD goes out of his way to mention the guy. If for some reason NP has worked on his arm strength he could be a decent backup long term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cusefan66214 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Any random Taco Bell employee >>>>>>> peterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 The Legend Lives Ooooonnnnnnnnnnnnm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 15 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: No way he beats out Mccarron imo...I like Peterman and not a huge Allen fan but of course as a Bills fan he will have my full support. But I believe Mccarron will lockthe starting job down unless McDermott says !@#$ it and goes with Allen...i do not believe Peterman will out perform Mccarron though I think that there's a very solid chance that Peterman is better than McCarron. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: I think that there's a very solid chance that Peterman is better than McCarron. Only time will tell...AJ is overlooked a lot because he sat behind Dalton but he was never given a chance to be the starter it was hands down Daltons job. I believe AJM is gonna surprise a lot of people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) If Peterman beats out McCarron then I can see AJ being traded. If they could get any kind of pick for him then he would be gone to be somebody's backup. Edited May 22, 2018 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I agree with Burple. Peterman is the surprise of camp and wins the job outright. Just as his first college start was a disaster and he came back to become a good player for Pitt, so too will he come back from his disastrous first NFL start and become a quality NFL quarterback. So it is written, so it shall be. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 34 minutes ago, Steptide said: I've stated here many times that I'm a Peterman fan. While I dont know if he's ready to be the starter, I do think he's gonna impress people this year. He's the only qb we have that has any experience with our current offense. McCarron might be good, he also might be terrible. As crazy as it sounds, Peterman is the most proven qb we have on our roster currently. Yes, 5 interceptions I know, but let's let by gones be by gones. Either way, I just want the best qb starting 28 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It's a new offense under Daboll, so he simply doesn't as a matter of fact. Also, McCarron is more proven. He has had more NFL success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: Wow. I'm not seeing this. Wow. Cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNICE Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Really would love to see this happen. However, If it does unfortunately won’t be with us. Allen is our long term plan, we trade away Nate and he then goes on to a long career as a starter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Also, McCarron is more proven. He has had more NFL success. Easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 36 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It's a new offense under Daboll, so he simply doesn't as a matter of fact. Even if he did, our previous offense was a dumpster fire, so is being associated with that really a plus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 minute ago, SouthNYfan said: Even if he did, our previous offense was a dumpster fire, so is being associated with that really a plus? Actually no. It was nondescript at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wily Dog Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) I cannot believe the narrow mindless of some Bills fans and i say fans with some disbelief. The TRUE Bills fan would want Peterman ,McCarron and Allen to in a contest for the starting job whereby there is a high level of progress for each one and the coaches have trouble determining who is going to start. That said , i believe Peterman , if he beats out McCarron,, will start game one and McCarron will be traded. Allen will come in when he is ready.. Edited May 22, 2018 by Wily Dog thought 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, BurpleBull said: Nathan Peterman will win the starting QB position barring injury. He'll be much improved from last season. Excited about Josh Allen as the starting QB, but Peterman is the guy people aren't talking about right now who will have everyone talking by the end of training camp. He's worked on his mechanics, is said to have added velocity to his throws, has a lot to prove and is no stranger to struggling early in his career and picking himself up. A little talked about fact concerning Peterman is that he's right up there with Allen as Bills QB's who've scored high on the Wonderlic test for those who equate the test to mental sharpness. I still hold to the belief that Peterman was at the very least a third round prospect in his draft class. Peterman will be the guy. So this is how I have it panning out... 1. Peterman 2. McCarron 3. Allen With Allen at three for his protection as he starts out his young career. Was one of the biggest Tyrod supporters on here til about March (don't know my CFB too well) when I realized this QB class can truly be special. Peterman is clearly years away from being NFL caliber. For the Bills to even consider starting him after 6 picks in under 3 quarters would mean he would have to blow Mccarron and Allen out the water .. Mccarron is on another planet as an unproven bridge QB. Bills spent the 12th,53rd and 56th pick (I believe) on Allen,who is on another planet than Peterman as far as raw talent. Even the limited video of Allen at the rookie camp was impressive. He's 6'5 , moving like he's 6'0. More Cam Newton than Peyton Manning. He's the present and future. 10 minutes ago, Wily Dog said: I cannot believe the narrow mindless of some Bills fans and i say fans with some disbelief. The TRUE Bills fan would want Peterman ,McCarron and Allen to in a contest for the starting job whereby there is a high level of progress for each one and the coaches have trouble determining who is going to start. That said , i believe Peterman , if he beats out McCarron,, will start game one and McCarron will be traded. Allen will come in when he is ready.. Of course it will be a competition. Sean McDermott is luckily our coach, that's how he runs the ship and I love him. My question is what on Gods green earth makes you believe Peterman can even contend with AJ ? Based on NFL film, Nathan looks like he's multiple years away from being in that conversation. Nothing I seen from him gives me hope that he'll pan out.... Edited May 22, 2018 by JerseyBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Noooooooooooo How about we wait until camp competition. Let the best QB start for us lol. Who do you really think is the best QB on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 No, he won't. Do you truly believe this or is it just a massive troll job? I really don't know which is worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 It's kind of amazing to me the amount of people who already "know" -- without a shadow of a doubt -- that Peterman will never amount to anything in the NFL. As if being put in too early in his career against an elite pass defense on the road was his fault. It's as if people don't believe players ever improve. They just stay at the same talent level that they display in their first start, I guess? Are people aware that Peyton Manning threw 3 interceptions in his first start? Or that he had more interceptions than touchdowns in his rookie year? How about Hall of Famer Troy Aikman? Just 9 TDs to 18 INTs in his first year as starter. What would you people have said about those two after their first years? It's also amazing how certain people are that Peterman won't win the QB competition this Summer. Why is that so hard to believe? He has a year head start on Josh Allen in terms of learning the pro game. His physical talent level is about equal to that of AJ McCarron. All three guys are starting fresh with a brand new playbook. I find it hard to place realistic odds on who will win this competition, but I don't think Peterman winning it is outlandish whatsoever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, vincec said: I doubt Allen would be #3. The #3 QB won't be getting the kind of practice time and reps in the Bills system that he needs to develop. If Peterman beats out McCarron and Allen, which I doubt, then McCarron will be the #3 IMO. I'll be worried if he can't beat Peterman lol 5 minutes ago, Logic said: It's kind of amazing to me the amount of people who already "know" -- without a shadow of a doubt -- that Peterman will never amount to anything in the NFL. As if being put in too early in his career against an elite pass defense on the road was his fault. It's as if people don't believe players ever improve. They just stay at the same talent level that they display in their first start, I guess? Are people aware that Peyton Manning threw 3 interceptions in his first start? Or that he had more interceptions than touchdowns in his rookie year? How about Hall of Famer Troy Aikman? Just 9 TDs to 18 INTs in his first year as starter. What would you people have said about those two after their first years? It's also amazing how certain people are that Peterman won't win the QB competition this Summer. Why is that so hard to believe? He has a year head start on Josh Allen in terms of learning the pro game. His physical talent level is about equal to that of AJ McCarron. All three guys are starting fresh with a brand new playbook. I find it hard to place realistic odds on who will win this competition, but I don't think Peterman winning it is outlandish whatsoever. True great players have had shaky starts. But just from the tape last year he looks like Alex Smith at best. And I'm saying that if we ignore the chargers game. Chargers game he was the worst quarterback I've ever seen in a bills uni, like tossup between him and Tuel. Peyton Manning and aikman didn't look near as bad in their poor starts. First of all he looked like he didn't watch tape and took gameplan for a pass rush (throw a quarterback to a fire, he should expect fire). Secondly he made the dumbest decisions I've ever seen. And I try to stay away from hyperbole but it's true in my opinion. To your point if he is his peak at Alex smith level, and the other guys can't beat that, then yeah he starts. And Allen is stunted maybe never gets better than that level and we're basically back to Tyrod Taylor standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 47 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Actually no. It was nondescript at best. I meant it as last year was a dumpster fire, so being associated with it shouldn't be viewed as a plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Wily Dog said: I cannot believe the narrow mindless of some Bills fans and i say fans with some disbelief. The TRUE Bills fan would want Peterman ,McCarron and Allen to in a contest for the starting job whereby there is a high level of progress for each one and the coaches have trouble determining who is going to start. That said , i believe Peterman , if he beats out McCarron,, will start game one and McCarron will be traded. Allen will come in when he is ready.. The true fan is worried if Allen can't beat Peterman, but happy we have the best QB starting Edited May 22, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 25 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Chargers game he was the worst quarterback I've ever seen in a bills uni, like tossup between him and Tuel. Billy Joe Hobert was worse. The max potential of his career is like Billy Joe, sitting on bench never getting a snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Limeaid said: Billy Joe Hobert was worse. The max potential of his career is like Billy Joe, sitting on bench never getting a snap. I've only been watching since the drought. I'll check out his tape lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 30 minutes ago, Logic said: It's kind of amazing to me the amount of people who already "know" -- without a shadow of a doubt -- that Peterman will never amount to anything in the NFL. As if being put in too early in his career against an elite pass defense on the road was his fault. It's as if people don't believe players ever improve. They just stay at the same talent level that they display in their first start, I guess? Are people aware that Peyton Manning threw 3 interceptions in his first start? Or that he had more interceptions than touchdowns in his rookie year? How about Hall of Famer Troy Aikman? Just 9 TDs to 18 INTs in his first year as starter. What would you people have said about those two after their first years? It's also amazing how certain people are that Peterman won't win the QB competition this Summer. Why is that so hard to believe? He has a year head start on Josh Allen in terms of learning the pro game. His physical talent level is about equal to that of AJ McCarron. All three guys are starting fresh with a brand new playbook. I find it hard to place realistic odds on who will win this competition, but I don't think Peterman winning it is outlandish whatsoever. I agree with you. Peterman has had successful NFL drives for scores, he threw three bad balls against a great defense and embarrassed himself in LA but he is accurate and has a decent shot at starting. We will carry all three this year on the roster. Allen week 9 first start, Bears at Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) Honestly I would want Peterman to beat AJ because Buffalo is Petermans birthplace into the NFL. I just won't say it out loud often. He might be a bust but he's our bust dammit. Edited May 22, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, SNICE said: Really would love to see this happen. However, If it does unfortunately won’t be with us. Allen is our long term plan, we trade away Nate and he then goes on to a long career as a starter. Erm, who do you think is the trade market for a 5th round pick who threw 5 INT in the first half of his first game? I'm just saying that's probably great film for other teams to covet the guy and do a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I just hope for am honest competition with the best man starting. Also, I hope that unless Allen is a standout freak they dont rush him into action due to his high draft slot. Best case is all are so good they could win win any of the three....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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